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If I plan on buying Might, Quick, Sanctuary, and Shrouding, what weapon should I give him?

There's really only one correct choice for GK librarians, and that's a warding stave. A 2++ save to avoid perils and PF sniping in CC is too good to pass up.

Except the stave's save only works for cc attacks.

OP, get that nf sword, add +1 to its invulnerable save.

tldr wrote:
OP, get that nf sword, add +1 to its invulnerable save.

Also only for CC attacks.

So, if you're discounting the Stave for that, the sword is an even worse option.

tldr wrote:Except the stave's save only works for cc attacks.

OP, get that nf sword, add +1 to its invulnerable save.

The Force Sword only works against CC attacks as well, so the only reason to take the Sword over the Stave is points. In fact, the Sword won't help you against Perils as it's specifically only provides the benefits against CC attacks while the Stave provides its save while in Close Combat. A subtle, but important, distinction.

I wouldnt put a warding save on a libby period. The points spent on him to save against potw wounds in CC? thats it? And what happens if you get gutsy, and want to save that pfist attack? if hes the guy with the stave and fails it (which he still has a 1/6 chance of doing) hes dead and gone.

I personally just give him a sword. He wont need the halberd because he has quickening, and he wont need the hammer because he has MOT and HH. He is still Init 5 with 3 power weapon attacks on the charge at init 10 and str 6. Hes good. I never set him up to make it into CC the 1st round anyway, by keeping him surrounded by his squad, and allowing me to keep him away from nasty powerfists

This imho, and experience, is the best way to run your libby (oh and its always a good idea to make him lvl 3 anyways

I've been playing with a libby for a while and I have to say just stay with the sword unless you have spare points. Don't make points for it. I like to keep my libbies fairly cheap so I can take more of other stuff.

tldr wrote:Except the stave's save only works for cc attacks.

OP, get that nf sword, add +1 to its invulnerable save.

As noted, the stave grants a 2++ against wounds caused in close combat, including wounds you cause to yourself via Perils. The sword only grants its bonus against attacks caused by close combat attacks, which is useless for perils.

thakabalpuphorsefishguy wrote:I wouldnt put a warding save on a libby period. The points spent on him to save against potw wounds in CC? thats it? And what happens if you get gutsy, and want to save that pfist attack? if hes the guy with the stave and fails it (which he still has a 1/6 chance of doing) hes dead and gone.

Except a Librarian is an IC, so your opponent is allocating those PF wounds to him; you don't get a choice. Would you rather take a 4++ from a nemesis force sword, or a 2++ from the warding save? Since you're already spending 220+ points on an assault-focused character, there's really no reason not to protect the investment with the warding stave.

Creeperman wrote:

tldr wrote:Except the stave's save only works for cc attacks.

OP, get that nf sword, add +1 to its invulnerable save.

As noted, the stave grants a 2++ against wounds caused in close combat, including wounds you cause to yourself via Perils. The sword only grants its bonus against attacks caused by close combat attacks, which is useless for perils.

thakabalpuphorsefishguy wrote:I wouldnt put a warding save on a libby period. The points spent on him to save against potw wounds in CC? thats it? And what happens if you get gutsy, and want to save that pfist attack? if hes the guy with the stave and fails it (which he still has a 1/6 chance of doing) hes dead and gone.

Except a Librarian is an IC, so your opponent is allocating those PF wounds to him; you don't get a choice. Would you rather take a 4++ from a nemesis force sword, or a 2++ from the warding save? Since you're already spending 220+ points on an assault-focused character, there's really no reason not to protect the investment with the warding stave.

Hes not allocating those fist attacks to my libby if hes not within base, or two inches of a model in his squad that is in base, with my libby. Which is exactly why wrapping up the libby in the center of his squad, prevents the libby from being "fisted"... no base contact Then after combat, you continue to move to get maximum base, allowing your libby to move into combat, safely away from that nasty perverted power fist Sargent, Its lovely! Also a nemisis warding stave, irrc, is not a power weapon.

thakabalpuphorsefishguy wrote:

Creeperman wrote:

tldr wrote:Except the stave's save only works for cc attacks.

OP, get that nf sword, add +1 to its invulnerable save.

As noted, the stave grants a 2++ against wounds caused in close combat, including wounds you cause to yourself via Perils. The sword only grants its bonus against attacks caused by close combat attacks, which is useless for perils.

thakabalpuphorsefishguy wrote:I wouldnt put a warding save on a libby period. The points spent on him to save against potw wounds in CC? thats it? And what happens if you get gutsy, and want to save that pfist attack? if hes the guy with the stave and fails it (which he still has a 1/6 chance of doing) hes dead and gone.

Except a Librarian is an IC, so your opponent is allocating those PF wounds to him; you don't get a choice. Would you rather take a 4++ from a nemesis force sword, or a 2++ from the warding save? Since you're already spending 220+ points on an assault-focused character, there's really no reason not to protect the investment with the warding stave.

Hes not allocating those fist attacks to my libby if hes not within base, or two inches of a model in his squad that is in base, with my libby. Which is exactly why wrapping up the libby in the center of his squad, prevents the libby from being "fisted"... no base contact Then after combat, you continue to move to get maximum base, allowing your libby to move into combat, safely away from that nasty perverted power fist Sargent, Its lovely! Also a nemisis warding stave, irrc, is not a power weapon.

The Staff is a Power Weapon. Or, more precisely, it's a Nemesis Force Weapon and all Force Weapons are Power Weapons.

thakabalpuphorsefishguy wrote:

Creeperman wrote:

tldr wrote:Except the stave's save only works for cc attacks.

OP, get that nf sword, add +1 to its invulnerable save.

As noted, the stave grants a 2++ against wounds caused in close combat, including wounds you cause to yourself via Perils. The sword only grants its bonus against attacks caused by close combat attacks, which is useless for perils.

thakabalpuphorsefishguy wrote:I wouldnt put a warding save on a libby period. The points spent on him to save against potw wounds in CC? thats it? And what happens if you get gutsy, and want to save that pfist attack? if hes the guy with the stave and fails it (which he still has a 1/6 chance of doing) hes dead and gone.

Except a Librarian is an IC, so your opponent is allocating those PF wounds to him; you don't get a choice. Would you rather take a 4++ from a nemesis force sword, or a 2++ from the warding save? Since you're already spending 220+ points on an assault-focused character, there's really no reason not to protect the investment with the warding stave.

Hes not allocating those fist attacks to my libby if hes not within base, or two inches of a model in his squad that is in base, with my libby. Which is exactly why wrapping up the libby in the center of his squad, prevents the libby from being "fisted"... no base contact Then after combat, you continue to move to get maximum base, allowing your libby to move into combat, safely away from that nasty perverted power fist Sargent, Its lovely! Also a nemisis warding stave, irrc, is not a power weapon.

All Nemesis weapons are power weapons in addition to their other effects.

My Libby always rocks a Stave, as everyone knows what an annoyance he is with his powers, so they try and swarm him in cqc. The stave allows him to survive the inevitable power weapons directed at him

thakabalpuphorsefishguy wrote:

Creeperman wrote:

tldr wrote:Except the stave's save only works for cc attacks.

OP, get that nf sword, add +1 to its invulnerable save.

As noted, the stave grants a 2++ against wounds caused in close combat, including wounds you cause to yourself via Perils. The sword only grants its bonus against attacks caused by close combat attacks, which is useless for perils.

thakabalpuphorsefishguy wrote:I wouldnt put a warding save on a libby period. The points spent on him to save against potw wounds in CC? thats it? And what happens if you get gutsy, and want to save that pfist attack? if hes the guy with the stave and fails it (which he still has a 1/6 chance of doing) hes dead and gone.

Except a Librarian is an IC, so your opponent is allocating those PF wounds to him; you don't get a choice. Would you rather take a 4++ from a nemesis force sword, or a 2++ from the warding save? Since you're already spending 220+ points on an assault-focused character, there's really no reason not to protect the investment with the warding stave.

Hes not allocating those fist attacks to my libby if hes not within base, or two inches of a model in his squad that is in base, with my libby. Which is exactly why wrapping up the libby in the center of his squad, prevents the libby from being "fisted"... no base contact Then after combat, you continue to move to get maximum base, allowing your libby to move into combat, safely away from that nasty perverted power fist Sargent, Its lovely! Also a nemisis warding stave, irrc, is not a power weapon.

Couldn't you just put him NOT near the power fist? If he's moving into combat just stick him next to some normal dudes.

Its worth it to protect your 200 point investment. The buffs he profides are invaluable, its bad when he dies.

O, and there's the fact a libby with Stave looks so damn cool

Given how important libby will be to your army if you're taking him, and given the benefits, I can't see why anyone would not give him a warding stave

Basiclly, the nem force sword is enough--- give him 4++ in close combat for free : )
If you have some more points left, you can give him a stave --- 2++ can protect him well, and make him cooooool