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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/21 20:00:23
Subject: FNP and custom weapons for Chaos Nurgle termies?
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Man O' War
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I play chaos and have some nurgle based terminators, i based the modelling on the GW typhus model with the deathreaper and all that
but as normal plague marines get FNP why can't plague termies get FNP
I am working on some rules nad datasheets for "Typhus' Terminator Guard"
for and extra 10-30 points per model upgrade to TTG and get FNP
would you play against an opponant with these rules or not?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/21 20:19:37
Subject: Re:FNP and custom weapons for Chaos Nurgle termies?
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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I would (and FW has some sick Plague Termi's so if the plague termi's of yours look anything comparable to FW's, then HELL YEAH!!!!!)
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Gods? There are no gods. Merely existences, obstacles to overcome.
"And what if I told you the Wolves tried to bring a Legion to heel once before? What if that Legion sent Russ and his dogs running, too ashamed to write down their defeat in Imperial archives?" - ADB |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/21 20:30:01
Subject: Re:FNP and custom weapons for Chaos Nurgle termies?
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Man O' War
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King Pariah wrote:I would (and FW has some sick Plague Termi's so if the plague termi's of yours look anything comparable to FW's, then HELL YEAH!!!!!)
cool, i have seen those convo kits and they are amazing! however mine are converted from some old AOBR termies i had
i used a lot of Green stuff, modelling and time
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/21 20:31:44
Subject: FNP and custom weapons for Chaos Nurgle termies?
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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YELLOWBLADES wrote:
but as normal plague marines get FNP why can't plague termies get FNP
Because that would be rediculous. It would take 144 lasgun shots to kill one, lol.
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Ever thought 40k would be a lot better with bears?
Codex: Bears.
NOW WITH MR BIGGLES AND HIS AMAZING FLYING CONTRAPTION |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/21 20:32:25
Subject: Re:FNP and custom weapons for Chaos Nurgle termies?
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Hard-Wired Sentinel Pilot
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Yeah the FW models are so awesome!!!! You should check em out. As for the rules, I feel like they'd be pretty dang expensive models, in terms of point cost. Almost too expensive to be balanced. He's gonna be protected from pretty much all small arms fire guaranteed, but any smart opponent wouldn't waste those shots on 2+4+5++ units. They'd use the heavy guns with AP2 and AP1 to get rid of em, thus negating FNP. Making that termie way more expensive for nothing. However, they would still be beasts in assault and while holding objectives though. I'd play against them no problem, but I'm not entirely sure I'd field them over regular Termies. It would depend on point cost really.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/21 20:38:03
Subject: FNP and custom weapons for Chaos Nurgle termies?
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PanOceaniac Hacking Specialist Sergeant
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Joey wrote:YELLOWBLADES wrote:
but as normal plague marines get FNP why can't plague termies get FNP
Because that would be rediculous. It would take 144 lasgun shots to kill one, lol.
144 lasguns? HAHAH you have never played against my paladins with apothecary obviously, It takes 4 bolter shots to kill one of my paladins XD Yup, I fail THAT many 2+ 4+ saves
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When your wife suggests roleplay as a result of your table top gaming... life just seems right
I took my wife thru the BRB for fantasy and 40k, the first thing she said was "AWESOME"... codex: Chaos Daemons Nurgle..... to all those who says God aint real.... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/21 20:46:54
Subject: FNP and custom weapons for Chaos Nurgle termies?
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Joey wrote:YELLOWBLADES wrote:
but as normal plague marines get FNP why can't plague termies get FNP
Because that would be rediculous. It would take 144 lasgun shots to kill one, lol.
What buffoon would waste small arms fire on Termi's in the first place?
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Gods? There are no gods. Merely existences, obstacles to overcome.
"And what if I told you the Wolves tried to bring a Legion to heel once before? What if that Legion sent Russ and his dogs running, too ashamed to write down their defeat in Imperial archives?" - ADB |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/21 20:47:54
Subject: FNP and custom weapons for Chaos Nurgle termies?
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Man O' War
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thakabalpuphorsefishguy wrote:Joey wrote:YELLOWBLADES wrote:
but as normal plague marines get FNP why can't plague termies get FNP
Because that would be rediculous. It would take 144 lasgun shots to kill one, lol.
144 lasguns? HAHAH you have never played against my paladins with apothecary obviously, It takes 4 bolter shots to kill one of my paladins XD Yup, I fail THAT many 2+ 4+ saves
true, i played 750p against GK player who used paladins, i couldnt kill one Automatically Appended Next Post: bmoleski wrote:Yeah the FW models are so awesome!!!! You should check em out. As for the rules, I feel like they'd be pretty dang expensive models, in terms of point cost. Almost too expensive to be balanced. He's gonna be protected from pretty much all small arms fire guaranteed, but any smart opponent wouldn't waste those shots on 2+4+5++ units. They'd use the heavy guns with AP2 and AP1 to get rid of em, thus negating FNP. Making that termie way more expensive for nothing. However, they would still be beasts in assault and while holding objectives though. I'd play against them no problem, but I'm not entirely sure I'd field them over regular Termies. It would depend on point cost really.
true, they would kinda be like renegade paladins with that rule
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/21 20:55:11
Subject: FNP and custom weapons for Chaos Nurgle termies?
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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King Pariah wrote:Joey wrote:YELLOWBLADES wrote:
but as normal plague marines get FNP why can't plague termies get FNP
Because that would be rediculous. It would take 144 lasgun shots to kill one, lol.
What buffoon would waste small arms fire on Termi's in the first place?
Well a blob of 30 rapid-firing against a squad of 5 termis would get 1.6 kills, thanks to wound wrapping.
Small arms fire can and does take down terminators, it's just not very effective at it.
Giving them T5 AND FNP makes them essentially downright immune to it.
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Ever thought 40k would be a lot better with bears?
Codex: Bears.
NOW WITH MR BIGGLES AND HIS AMAZING FLYING CONTRAPTION |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/21 22:26:52
Subject: Re:FNP and custom weapons for Chaos Nurgle termies?
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Fixture of Dakka
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I support cult Terminators of all flavors, even Nurgle.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
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When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/25 02:26:24
Subject: FNP and custom weapons for Chaos Nurgle termies?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Cult Terminators would be workable, I think. Consider in comparison to regular Chaos Marines:
Plague Marine: -1 I, +Blight Grenades, +Fearless, +FNP, +Mark of Nurgle, +8pts per model. No option for heavy weapons, otherwise all options the same as regular Chaos Marines.
Plague Terminator, hence:
40pts per model, WS 4, BS 4, S 4, T 4(5), W 1, I 3, A 2, Ld 10, Sv 2+/5++
Equipment and options remain identical to normal Chaos Terminators except for the following: add Mark of Nurgle, Fearless, and Feel No Pain, remove the option to take a Reaper Autocannon, replace the Icon section with an option to take a Personal Icon for +5pts
Noise Marines: +1 I, +Fearless, +different upgrade weapon list, +5pts
Noise Terminators, hence:
36pts per model, WS 4, BS 4, S 4, T 4, W 1, I 5, A 2, Ld 10, Sv 2+/5++
Equipment and options remain identical to normal Chaos Terminators except for the following: add Mark of Slaanesh, Fearless, replace the twin-linked bolter with a twin-linked sonic blaster; remove the option to take combi-weapons, a heavy flamer, or a Reaper Autocannon, add the option to take a Blastmaster, one Champion may take a Doom Siren, costs as listed under the Noise Marine entry, replace the Icon section with an option to take a Personal Icon for +5pts
Thousand Sons: +Slow&Purposeful, +Inferno Bolts, +MoT, +Fearless, -Grenades, +Sorcerer squad leader at +37pts, +8pts/model
Thousand Sons Terminators, hence:
41pts per model, WS 4, BS 4, S 4, T 4, W 1, I 4, A 2, Ld 10, Sv 2+/4++
One must be upgraded to a Sorcerer for +40pts, Sorcerer has +1 A, a Force Weapon, and one psychic power for the cost listed under the Thousand Sons entry; no other may be upgraded to champion.
Equipment is otherwise unchanged, and no equipment upgrades may be taken; all models gain Slow and Purposeful, Inferno Bolts, Fearless, and The Sorcerer Commands. Replace the Icon section with an option to take a Personal Icon for +5pts
Khorne Berzerkers: +1 WS, +Fearless, +MoK, +Furious Charge, -boltguns
Berzerker Terminators, hence:
38pts per model, WS 5, BS 4, S 4, T 4, W 1, I 4, A 3, Ld 10, Sv 2+/5++
All models gain Fearless, Furious Charge, and the Mark of Khorne. Equipment remains unchanged, except that the option to take a Reaper Autocannon or heavy flamer is removed; replace the Icon section with an option to take a Personal Icon for +5pts
Or something like that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/25 05:08:11
Subject: FNP and custom weapons for Chaos Nurgle termies?
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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AnomanderRake wrote:Cult Terminators would be workable, I think. Consider in comparison to regular Chaos Marines:
Plague Marine: -1 I, +Blight Grenades, +Fearless, +FNP, +Mark of Nurgle, +8pts per model. No option for heavy weapons, otherwise all options the same as regular Chaos Marines.
Plague Terminator, hence:
40pts per model, WS 4, BS 4, S 4, T 4(5), W 1, I 3, A 2, Ld 10, Sv 2+/5++
Equipment and options remain identical to normal Chaos Terminators except for the following: add Mark of Nurgle, Fearless, and Feel No Pain, remove the option to take a Reaper Autocannon, replace the Icon section with an option to take a Personal Icon for +5pts
Noise Marines: +1 I, +Fearless, +different upgrade weapon list, +5pts
Noise Terminators, hence:
36pts per model, WS 4, BS 4, S 4, T 4, W 1, I 5, A 2, Ld 10, Sv 2+/5++
Equipment and options remain identical to normal Chaos Terminators except for the following: add Mark of Slaanesh, Fearless, replace the twin-linked bolter with a twin-linked sonic blaster; remove the option to take combi-weapons, a heavy flamer, or a Reaper Autocannon, add the option to take a Blastmaster, one Champion may take a Doom Siren, costs as listed under the Noise Marine entry, replace the Icon section with an option to take a Personal Icon for +5pts
Thousand Sons: +Slow&Purposeful, +Inferno Bolts, +MoT, +Fearless, -Grenades, +Sorcerer squad leader at +37pts, +8pts/model
Thousand Sons Terminators, hence:
41pts per model, WS 4, BS 4, S 4, T 4, W 1, I 4, A 2, Ld 10, Sv 2+/4++
One must be upgraded to a Sorcerer for +40pts, Sorcerer has +1 A, a Force Weapon, and one psychic power for the cost listed under the Thousand Sons entry; no other may be upgraded to champion.
Equipment is otherwise unchanged, and no equipment upgrades may be taken; all models gain Slow and Purposeful, Inferno Bolts, Fearless, and The Sorcerer Commands. Replace the Icon section with an option to take a Personal Icon for +5pts
Khorne Berzerkers: +1 WS, +Fearless, +MoK, +Furious Charge, -boltguns
Berzerker Terminators, hence:
38pts per model, WS 5, BS 4, S 4, T 4, W 1, I 4, A 3, Ld 10, Sv 2+/5++
All models gain Fearless, Furious Charge, and the Mark of Khorne. Equipment remains unchanged, except that the option to take a Reaper Autocannon or heavy flamer is removed; replace the Icon section with an option to take a Personal Icon for +5pts
Or something like that.
I'd say Zerker Termi's should be able to wield two of any CC weapons (Ex: carry 2 power weapons, 2 lightning claws, 2 chainfists, etc.) and keep base 2 attacks on their statline.
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Gods? There are no gods. Merely existences, obstacles to overcome.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/25 08:33:25
Subject: Re:FNP and custom weapons for Chaos Nurgle termies?
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Tzeentch Veteran Marine with Psychic Potential
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If regular Thousand Sons get a 4+ invulnerable save shouldn't Thousand Sons Terminators get a 3+ invulnerable? Because otherwise those are grossly overpriced.
5+ for Tzeentch, 4+ for Thousand Sons, 3+ for Terminator Armour.
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Change and change until Change is our master, for nothing neither God nor mortal can hold that which has no form. Change is the constant that cannot be changed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/25 15:10:25
Subject: FNP and custom weapons for Chaos Nurgle termies?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Tzeentch Terminators:
i was wondering the exact same thing, Chaos: i prefer the brutal nature of a khornate assault, but the temptation to create an army full of Inv. save mini's would be legal yet beardy at the same time, if not expensive and small, tzeentch termies 2+/3+, i'd say they do have 3+ inv because the mark of Tzeentch adds +1 to an existing save or counts as a 5+ inv save if model naturally has none. a GK army would count as a horde army against a Tzeentch tanged flavored/themed army
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/06 19:54:28
Subject: FNP and custom weapons for Chaos Nurgle termies?
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Crazed Cultist of Khorne
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I really like the idea of these Cult Terminators.  This post needs to be revived.
I am actually trying to devise some more weaponry for them, and come up with some concept art. I will be adding them to this post once I finish the inking. Right now they are in pencil and the rules for each are up in the air.
I am currently working on Slaaneshi and Khornate weapons, with Nurgle to follow, and Tzeentch bringing up the tail end.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 03:16:36
Subject: Re:FNP and custom weapons for Chaos Nurgle termies?
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Crazed Cultist of Khorne
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OK! so here is one of the proposed weapons for the Cult Terminators of Slaanesh! I kinda went overboard with the concepts, and I created the gun in a drawing for first, then made it with GS plasticard, and guitar string. Lemme know what you think of the gun! Also, I made the body of one of them. I was gonna name them the "Dark Satyrs of Slaanesh". Feedback would be greatly appreciated!
Concept Art:
GS -ed and fleshed out concept:
Fleshed out Body and Head! :
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/27 03:21:51
Subject: Re:FNP and custom weapons for Chaos Nurgle termies?
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Sword-Wielding Bloodletter of Khorne
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Dark-Warrior-Art wrote:OK! so here is one of the proposed weapons for the Cult Terminators of Slaanesh! I kinda went overboard with the concepts, and I created the gun in a drawing for first, then made it with GS plasticard, and guitar string. Lemme know what you think of the gun! Also, I made the body of one of them. I was gonna name them the "Dark Satyrs of Slaanesh". Feedback would be greatly appreciated!
Concept Art:
GS -ed and fleshed out concept:
Fleshed out Body and Head! :

Those look great! I would love to see cult Terminators. I'd run against them just because it would be fun to see on the table.
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