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Hi,
Can't see this in the GW FAQ or the INAT FAQ, but what is the legality of a Cryptek using his Solar Pulse from within an enclosed transport i.e. Night Scythe? Can he do this, as it does not say he requires any line of sight and he is on the battlefield, albeit in a vehicle?

Also, does the pulse induce night fighting or take it away for a PLAYER TURN or a GAME TURN? So can I use the pulse in my opponents turn to induce night fighting and then have clear daylight to attack him in my next turn?

Just one more thing, is there any restriction on going flat out in a CCB and using sweep attacks?

Thanks in advance.

RAW there doesn't seem to be any limitation besides the one-time use. Heck it doesn't even state the bearer needs to be alive...

Turn always means Player Turn unless it specifically states Game Turn (see BRB FAQ).

I think Solar Pulses from beyond the grave would be pushing it lol. Thanks for the confirmation though.

See BRB also, clearly written in those lead in rules...

Re the CCB not aware of any restriction other than as stated in codex. All 3 attacks against same unit, roll 4+ if moved more than combat speed.

Can also attack a unit in CC (separate thread for that!)

I agree about the lack of restriction for the sweep attacks from the CCB. Have at it.

For the solar pulse from a vehicle, if it has a firing port, or is opened top, then I would say you could use it. In the case of the night scythe, though a transport, it is not a vehicle units can fire out of, since they come in from reserve and are transported onto the field similar to a monolith (hence why units using a night scythe are not destroyed, just put back into reserve).

Hope this helps.

Cheers

Sir Harry Flashman, VC wrote:Hi,
Can't see this in the GW FAQ or the INAT FAQ, but what is the legality of a Cryptek using his Solar Pulse from within an enclosed transport i.e. Night Scythe? Can he do this, as it does not say he requires any line of sight and he is on the battlefield, albeit in a vehicle?

Also, does the pulse induce night fighting or take it away for a PLAYER TURN or a GAME TURN? So can I use the pulse in my opponents turn to induce night fighting and then have clear daylight to attack him in my next turn?

Just one more thing, is there any restriction on going flat out in a CCB and using sweep attacks?

Thanks in advance.

We do have this question covered in the INAT, its just in the section about the Night Scythe (since the question really applies to any special rule used from within a Night Scythe). its on page 71 of the v.5.1.1 INAT.


And the answer is that although it doesn't really make logical sense fluff-wise that special rules can be used by models 'inside' a Night Scythe, they are a transport vehicle and follow all the normal rules for transports except where specified otherwise (like sending their passengers into reserve when destroyed). Therefore, embarked units on a Night Scythe get all the normal benefits that any other embarked unit does, which means that as long as the special rule doesn't require LOS (which the solar pulse doesn't) then it can most definitely be used by a unit embarked on a Night Scythe.


And as for the Solar Pulse being used when the model is dead, 99% of rules in the game don't specify that the model needs to be alive, its kind of a common sense thing that GW assumes you'd be able to figure out: if the model is dead then any special rules he has cease to function.

The way they actually specify that a rule continues to apply even when the model is dead is to say things like: ;an army that includes [model X] benefits from this special rule' or something similar.

nosferatu1001 wrote:See BRB also, clearly written in those lead in rules...

The fantasy rulebook?

cheapbuster wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:See BRB also, clearly written in those lead in rules...

The fantasy rulebook?

Basic Rule Book.

Given most of the front cover of the 5th ed book is red, calling it BRB is perfectly fine.

BRB = Basic Rule Book
BRB = Big Red Book (which 5th ed has a red cover now)
BRB = Big Rule Book (as compared to the small rule book that comes with Black Reach)

At least that is how I see it.

never mind

Thanks Yak. I actually printed the Necron INAT FAQ, must have got tunnel vision on the Cryptek wargear