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Ok, pretty new to warhammer 40k and i am building DE.

When i came across duke sliscus and read his serpents venom special rule, i pondered a question.

the rule states:

"The Serpent's Venom - Pick a unit of Kabalite Warriors or a unit of Kabalite Trueborn at the beginning of the game.
Sliscus must be deployed with this unit. All splinter weapons in that unit are upgraded to poisoned (+3), to represent the
Duke's collection of hypertoxins in action."

So, the way i see it is this. Deploy him with a group of 5 trueborn, they get +3 posion weapons. Deployment rule met.
So after deployment, can i detach him from that unit and put them in a venom and they keep the +3 weapons?

Passed the question on to the demon spawn of a roomate that got me addicted to this game and dropping 100$ a week
(pst i love you demon spawn) into getting more units, and he said no b/c he isnt attached

Normaly i would agree b/c he isnt attached anymore, but no where in the rule does it say "gives +3 to his unit" ... just says
pick a unit of warriors or trueborn and deploy with them and they are upgraded. Other HQ choices give there bonuses to
the units they are with, such as baron sathonyx, where it states "his unit"

With all that being said, I am trying to figure out if how i am interpreting it is correct or not.

Please help dakka dakka, the argument amongst friends must be decided!!

It's three separate sentences. You pick a unit. He has to deploy in that unit. And that unit gets 3+ on their poison that game. No requirement for him to stay with them.

Mannahnin wrote:It's three separate sentences. You pick a unit. He has to deploy in that unit. And that unit gets 3+ on their poison that game. No requirement for him to stay with them.

exactly.

Thats what I thought, thanks alot guys. Now to beat my room mate, with the proverbial "I'm right" stick, into submission.

Just in case it helps with your discussion, another example of a similar situation happens with the Lhamaeans in the Court of the Archon.

It's simply a special rule that a model has that confers a bonus to a separate unit, there's no need to attach them.

Also of some note to the discussion is Pedro Kantor of the Space Marines Codex, who says "your sternguard veteran squads gain the hold the line! special rule detailed below" there's no choice being made in this instance but it's still the same principle of a model being able to grant a special rule without needing to be attached.

Drunkspleen wrote:Just in case it helps with your discussion, another example of a similar situation happens with the Lhamaeans in the Court of the Archon. It's simply a special rule that a model has that confers a bonus to a separate unit, there's no need to attach them

Actually in this case the rules do require you to deploy Sliscus with the unit at the start of the game.

Ghaz wrote:

Drunkspleen wrote:Just in case it helps with your discussion, another example of a similar situation happens with the Lhamaeans in the Court of the Archon. It's simply a special rule that a model has that confers a bonus to a separate unit, there's no need to attach them

Actually in this case the rules do require you to deploy Sliscus with the unit at the start of the game.

Yes but my point was simply that there are other models out there that similarly confer rules even when they aren't attached to the unit in question.

Ghaz and Spleen you are both right... sort of; taking what spleen was trying to say into account.

Duke has the rule that he must be deployed along with the unit he gives a bonus to, but he is not required to stay with them for the bonus or any other reason.

The Lhamaeans, and the court are not required to be deployed with their Lord, nor to ever have the Lord attached; but the bonus conferred by the Lhamaean is permanent.

Never said he had to stay with the unit, just that he had to deploy with them (if present in the army).