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I really like the color scheme but I think it needs something more. Maybe some lighting effects?
I just got back into 40k after a 15ish year break, hence the old guardian in the back there.

Any advice would be more than welcome.

50cent craft store acrylics, based them with white primer and then neon pink acrylic. covered with black where needed.

Don't use craft store acrylics. As you can see, they're very, very, very thick. Your models look like they were made of fondant. Get paints made for painting miniatures - GW, Vallejo, Reaper, anything. They're all better than craft store paint.

I think the quality of paint doesn't do the mini or paint scheme any justice.

They either need to be thinned, or you should invest in some higher-quality miniature paints (GW, Vallejo etc).

Also, welcome back to the hobby!

^ninja'd

Brother SRM wrote:Your models look like they were made of fondant.

The best description ever, sadly.

I just started looking into Vallejo last night but I am having a hard time finding a US distributor online. My other thought is finding neon pink "model" acrylic may be difficult. Part of what I like so much about this theme is how much pop it has.

NoBaconz4You wrote:They either need to be thinned, or you should invest in some higher-quality miniature paints (GW, Vallejo etc).

Those are thinned, I think the pink was 3-5 layers the black was one layer with some touch up. Learning about pigment size or density explains why these are so cheap.

Slaanesh colors are an odd choice for an Eldar army.

Calous wrote:I just started looking into Vallejo last night but I am having a hard time finding a US distributor online. My other thought is finding neon pink "model" acrylic may be difficult. Part of what I like so much about this theme is how much pop it has.

Google is your friend.

http://www.thewarstore.com/vallejogamecolors.html


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Also, fluorescent pink, far right under fluoresecents on page 2:
http://www.acrylicosvallejo.com/pdf_web/MC_CC070-rev08.pdf

Calous wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:Your models look like they were made of fondant.

The best description ever, sadly.

I just started looking into Vallejo last night but I am having a hard time finding a US distributor online. My other thought is finding neon pink "model" acrylic may be difficult. Part of what I like so much about this theme is how much pop it has.

NoBaconz4You wrote:They either need to be thinned, or you should invest in some higher-quality miniature paints (GW, Vallejo etc).

Those are thinned, I think the pink was 3-5 layers the black was one layer with some touch up. Learning about pigment size or density explains why these are so cheap.

Vallejo Model Color 735
Florescent Magenta
3rd from the top left.

Here is a link to the Fantasy Pack pictured
http://www.thewarstore.com/product20785.html
and the individual bottle.
http://www.thewarstore.com/product43309.html
These are the specific model type paints the posters above referred you to.
I don't particularly mind non miniature paints and they look fine depending on the type and effect you want.
These models are painted almost exclusively with non model paints, but also not with the 50c bottles.



Side by side with models painted with GW, Vallejo, and P3 paints they are at least as good and sometimes better, because the range of colors offered is certainly better than GW and P3 (VJ, Reaper, and Andrea are hard to beat in color variation). Don't let anyone dissuade you from using craft paints, plenty of people do. In the long run it is measurably easier to use miniature specific paints and the paint will probably be more durable (you should be varnishing anyway).

Thank you both so much, I promise I searched google. Maybe "Vallejo US distributor" was a poor choice...

Is there a way to Varnish without making the models shiny? I have used acrylic sealer in the past on some D&D pewter minis and I didn't like the wet look it gave them.

I do have some Liquitex in tube form but I didn't even think about using it. Not that I have pink but I do have plenty of black.

Most indie game stores will carry multiple brands of miniature paint. I'm not sure where you from, but store I frequent here in Northern Virginia (Huzzah Hobbies) carries GW, Vallejo Model Color, and P3. A lot of general hobby stores will carry some as well. There is a model train store near my house tha carries Vallejo Game Color. That being said, TheWarStore is an excellent site for just about anything for the hobby!

As well as a switch to a more appropriate paint, you might also want to get a couple of washes - maybe a purple one to shade the pink and a black to shade the black (duh! ) - I'd also paint the black a mid/dark grey and shade with the wash to give it a little bit more depth.

You can get matt effect varnish; most model suppliers will have at least one brand - I'm sure the warstore probably carries a couple.

Otherwise a pretty cool colour scheme - I might pick up some brass to do the fittings and fixtures (such as power cables/runes etc) and maybe a blue or a goldy yellow to do the spirit stones?

The problem with pink is I don't have a lot of options for accessories. I was thinking silver for the cables and white with a blue tint for the stones.

I do have a hobby town nearby, they focus on trains and rc stuff but I have heard they have some wargaming stuff as well. I will be checking that out.

I was thinking a white wash but im not sure how that will look over both the black and pink. I suppose I could go with white over the pink and gray over the black...

Brass with pink and black looks good. As does bone.



And I'm not sure why you would white wash over the colours you have used - I'd prime white, paint on the grey and pink, then wash the pink with purple and wash the grey with black.

I was thinking the white would highlight the black and pink. I think I will take your advice and give that a shot.

And thanks for the image, that does look good.

Sacrilegious Eldar...

The trouble with washing white is that it would highlight all the wrong places - namely the paint would run into all the creases etc which should be darker.

If you want to have easy highlights, I could suggest instead of painting with the pink straight from the bottle (assuming you are using proper model paint), or watering it down properly (to a milky thickness), water the pink down a little further to make it half way between a wash and a paint.

Apply this to the white undercoat and quickly wipe a reasonably large, wet, soft brush over the raised sections to wash some of the paint off them and so keep a much lighter shade on the raised parts. This is how I painted up my avatar (click through to the gallery to be able to zoom in):

Calous wrote:Thank you both so much, I promise I searched google. Maybe "Vallejo US distributor" was a poor choice...

Is there a way to Varnish without making the models shiny? I have used acrylic sealer in the past on some D&D pewter minis and I didn't like the wet look it gave them.

I do have some Liquitex in tube form but I didn't even think about using it. Not that I have pink but I do have plenty of black.

Nearly every completed model in my Gallery is varnished. I use testors flatcote and dullcote, and occasionally a liquitex matte varnish. If you have an airbrush I would prbably steer you to VJ's matte varnish.
As a comparison this model is matte varnished but has future on the foot and in the base which is a gloss acrylic.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/259885-.html?m=2

You have to thin tube paints quite a bit. It's do able but annoying.

Your Eldar Barbieworld theme makes them look like cheap toys from a gumball machine IMHO, but they are expensive toys.

Thanks to everyone in this thread, I bought a few of the vallejo colors I needed locally but the "hot pink" will have to be ordered online. I have learned the errors of my way and only wish I had known of dakkadakka before I started.
I went with the dark gray and tested it on a model that already had a base of the cheap pink and I could already tell the difference. They had matte varnish as well that I will be testing this weekend.

Kroothawk wrote:Your Eldar Barbieworld theme...

ZING!