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Gonna be playing against the room mate and his Nids, came up with this:


Anti horder = 1499 out of 1500

HQ

Archon > 140
-combat drugs
-venomblade
-shadow field
-webway portal
Hamey > 75
-liquifer
-scissor hand
Hamey > 75
-liquifer
-scissor hand
Hamey > 75
-liquifer
-scissor hand

Troops

9 kab warrior > 96
-blaster
10 kab warrior > 105
-blaster
10 kab warrior > 105
-blaster
9 wych > 120
-heka
-agoniser
9 wych > 120
-heka
-agoniser
9 wych > 120
-heka
-agoniser

Fast Atk

3 reavers > 86
-cluster caltrops
3 reavers > 86
-cluster caltrops
3 reavers > 86
-cluster caltrops

Transports

Raider > 70
-flickerfield
-disintegrator cannon
Raider > 70
-flickerfield
-disintegrator cannon
Raider > 70
-flickerfield
-disintegrator cannon



My confliction is i dont know if i should keep the disintegrator cannons on the raiders to add extra anti horde for the gun boats,
or leave them as dark lances to combine with the blasters to target down HQ's. Comments, changes, and "your an idiot" are welcome.

What models do you have to switch things around with so i dont post reccomendations you cant do

Hamey's are fairly meh in CC and don't stand a chance against nids, so I would drop the scissorhands. They are better sticking behind in the wychboats to throw out liquifier shots.

Make sure your archon is riding in a raider or venom. The venom blade is great for the price and great against bug hordes or thropes, but don't expect him to tangle with heavy MC's with 3+ or 2+ armor. I would drop the webway portal to try and add more raiders/venoms. A venom can shred MC's and bug hordes alike.

Keep the darklances on the boats. Better to instakill tyrant guard, and you have poison, plenty capable of dealing with tough MC's.

The warriors would do better with a ride as blasters are short ranged. If you plan to keep them on foot a splinter cannon is better. I would drop them to squads of 5 with blasters to throw them into venoms.

1497 out of 1500

Archon > 105
-combat drugs
-venomblade
-shadow field
Hamey > 110
-liquifer
-webway portal
-scissor hand
Hamey > 75
-liquifer
-scissor hand
Hamey > 75
-liquifer
-scissor hand

4 Incubi > 118
-klaivex
-onslaught

9 kab warrior > 96
-blaster
10 kab warrior > 105
-blaster
10 kab warrior > 105
-blaster
9 wych > 120
-heka
-agoniser
9 wych > 120
-heka
-agoniser


3 reavers > 86
-cluster caltrops
3 reavers > 86
-cluster caltrops
3 reavers > 86
-cluster caltrops

Raider > 70
-flickerfield
-disintegrator cannon
Raider > 70
-flickerfield
-disintegrator cannon
Raider > 70
-flickerfield
-disintegrator cannon


Revised my own list. Wasnt very specific on how i was going to strat this or what units i do or do not have.

As of right now i have no venoms, thats why they arent there.
And the strat here is:

hamey with portal goes with the 9 kab warriors in a boat, drops of, drops portal ... wyches with other hameys come out of portal along with archon and incubi.
the blasters where b/c of the gun boats and be able to skim around and still be in range.

Ravagers?
Razorwing?

taranis3001 wrote:1497 out of 1500

Archon > 105Scissorhands are still there. While they may be slightly useful against the hordes, you have other things that you could take, like Agonisers. This goes for theArchon as well
-combat drugs
-venomblade
-shadow field
Hamey > 110
-liquifer
-webway portal
-scissor hand
Hamey > 75
-liquifer
-scissor hand
Hamey > 75
-liquifer
-scissor hand

4 Incubi > 118Only 4? What are you planning on assaulting?
-klaivex
-onslaught

9 kab warrior > 96The troops seem ok. If you have this many Wych models, you could get some bloodbrides and some razorflails or hydra gauntlets.
-blaster
10 kab warrior > 105
-blaster
10 kab warrior > 105
-blaster
9 wych > 120
-heka
-agoniser
9 wych > 120
-heka
-agoniser


3 reavers > 86 Honestly, against Tyranids, Cluster Caltrops would be awesome and horribly useful, especially against groups of gants. I would take at least one full unit.
-cluster caltrops
3 reavers > 86
-cluster caltrops
3 reavers > 86
-cluster caltrops

Raider > 70
-flickerfield
-disintegrator cannon
Raider > 70
-flickerfield
-disintegrator cannon
Raider > 70
-flickerfield
-disintegrator cannon


Revised my own list. Wasnt very specific on how i was going to strat this or what units i do or do not have.

As of right now i have no venoms, thats why they arent there.
And the strat here is:

hamey with portal goes with the 9 kab warriors in a boat, drops of, drops portal ... wyches with other hameys come out of portal along with archon and incubi.
the blasters where b/c of the gun boats and be able to skim around and still be in range.

I would throw a Razorwing or Voidraven in there. Necrotoxin will kill large swathes of gants, and a proper Implosion missile hit have a chance (though a small one) to kill a Hive Tyrant outright.

unfortunatly no tristan ... just started building the army and thats all i got so far. Soon though ... sooooooooooon


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1497 out of 1500

Archon > 105
-combat drugs
-venomblade
-shadow field
Hamey > 95
-liquifer
-webway portal
Hamey > 60
-liquifer
Hamey > 60
-liquifer


4 Incubi > 138
-klaivex
-demiklaives
-onslaught

9 kab warrior > 96
-blaster
10 kab warrior > 105
-blaster
10 kab warrior > 105
-blaster
9 wych > 130
-razorflails
-heka
-agoniser
9 wych > 130
-razorflails
-heka
-agoniser


3 reavers > 86
-cluster caltrops
3 reavers > 86
-cluster caltrops
3 reavers > 86
-cluster caltrops

Raider > 70
-flickerfield
-disintegrator cannon
Raider > 70
-flickerfield
-disintegrator cannon
Raider > 70
-flickerfield
-disintegrator cannon


Another new list.
The archon and incubi are on MC hunts
Got the razor flails
added Demiklaives to incubi
dont understand the post about the reavers

taranis3001 wrote:unfortunatly no tristan ... just started building the army and thats all i got so far. Soon though ... sooooooooooon


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Another new list.
The archon and incubi are on MC hunts Problem is that MC will eat the Incubi, I'd run 9x Bloodbrides with 3x Shardnet to escort an archon with a clone field, ghostplate, agonizer, drugs (idea being that you can reduce the MC attacks towards the archon by 3-5 making them pretty useless.
Got the razor flails
added Demiklaives to incubi Don't like Incubi against Nids nothing for them to kill effectively
dont understand the post about the reavers Use them in a max size unit instead of as 3 small squads

And here we go .. yet another revamp

1496 out of 1500

Archon > 105
-combat drugs
-venomblade
-shadow field
Hamey > 95
-liquifer
-webway portal
Hamey > 60
-liquifer
Hamey > 60
-liquifer

9 heka bloodbrides > 162
-3 shardnet impalers
-syren
-venom blade

9 kab warrior > 96
-blaster
10 kab warrior > 105
-blaster
10 kab warrior > 105
-blaster
9 wych > 130
-razorflails
-heka
-agoniser
9 wych > 130
-razorflails
-heka
-agoniser


9 reavers > 238
-2 cluster caltrops


Raider > 70
-flickerfield
-disintegrator cannon
Raider > 70
-flickerfield
-disintegrator cannon
Raider > 70
-flickerfield
-disintegrator cannon

Better? worse? any other tweeking i can do?

taranis3001 wrote:And here we go .. yet another revamp

1496 out of 1500

Archon > 105
-combat drugs
-venomblade
-shadow field


If he is going with the bloodbrides then he should be setup like this drop a wyche squad to 8 to pay the difference:
Archon
-clone field (your taking shardnet brides to combine with this, reuces any creature he's fighting to -3 and -D3 attacks basically making them need atleast 5 attacks to even do anything to you)
-agonizer (you know what i love more then wounding MC on a 2+, giving them no save (most dont have inv) on a 4+... math backs this up)
-combat drugs
-ghostplate armour (in case you get hit by some dakka you atleast get a save)





Hamey > 95
-liquifer
-webway portal
Hamey > 60
-liquifer
Hamey > 60
-liquifer

9 heka bloodbrides > 162
-3 shardnet impalers
-syren
-venom blade

9 kab warrior > 96
-blaster
10 kab warrior > 105
-blaster
10 kab warrior > 105
-blaster
9 wych > 130
-razorflails
-heka
-agoniser
9 wych > 130
-razorflails
-heka
-agoniser


9 reavers > 238
-2 cluster caltrops


Raider > 70
-flickerfield
-disintegrator cannon
Raider > 70
-flickerfield
-disintegrator cannon
Raider > 70
-flickerfield
-disintegrator cannon

Better? worse? any other tweeking i can do?

wait .... an agoniser ignores saves?

It is a power weapon that always wounds on a 4+.