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2012/06/04 20:26:51
Subject: What do they really mean by "most extreme" president of all time?
Gitzbitah wrote:Pfft. Amateurs. James K. Polk- now there was an extreme president.
Grover Cleveland es! He's the Tupac Shakur of the late 1800s. Tzar Andreovich II once ed with Cleveland. Cleveland popped some caps in his Tzarist rear with his '45er and ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti. In their shame, the Russians hid all evidence that there ever was a Tzar Andreovich II. Thats how utterly extreme he was.
Second Place: Lincoln. As is now coming to light he saved the Union - with an axe- from those steenking vampires.
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2012/06/05 10:59:23
Subject: What do they really mean by "most extreme" president of all time?
Melissia wrote:Most Democrats trying to shift the blame from the Democratic Governor and "Chocolate City" Nagan say Bush handled it incompetently but they don't blame the actual hurricane on him.
Corrected your typo.
2012/06/05 14:56:59
Subject: What do they really mean by "most extreme" president of all time?
Melissia wrote:Most Democrats trying to shift the blame from the Democratic Governor and "Chocolate City" Nagan say Bush handled it incompetently but they don't blame the actual hurricane on him.
Corrected your typo.
No.
There's no blame-shifting involved here. There's nothing to suggest that there is no or less blame on the Louisiana government's corruption. That is something that you pulled entirely out of your ass.
Horse gak. Your memory is blindingly false. Democrats screamed and screamed that it was all Bush's fault, despite that its not the job of FEMA to do that.
Melissia wrote:Yes, there's always outliers who get reported on more than they should. If you want to try to argue that they're representative of all Democrats, then you should also be arguing that Curtis Knapp and Fred Phelps are representative of all Christians.
You mean like Al Gore, former VP of the United States? he's no "outlier."
2012/06/05 17:01:55
Subject: What do they really mean by "most extreme" president of all time?
Melissia wrote:Yes, there's always outliers who get reported on more than they should. If you want to try to argue that they're representative of all Democrats, then you should also be arguing that Curtis Knapp and Fred Phelps are representative of all Christians.
You mean like Al Gore, former VP of the United States? he's no "outlier."
The same Al Gore who thinks he invented the Internet? He IS, WAS, and will continue to be nuttier than a fruit cake.
Melissa's point is still valid.
Yet the Democrats ran him as the Vice President of the United States...mmm you can't say he's an outlier when he was second in command of the Freaking Democratic Party.
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BrassScorpion wrote:The current strategy to sabotage everything that might help the American people by the GOP has been done before. It's a decades old strategy that's been done before. Great film footage of Harry Truman calling them out on it and more including Nixon's treason and how Reagan helped the Iranians just to win the election.
When all else fails - do everything you can to sabotage a Democratic president - and make sure the American people hate him at the end of the day - no matter what. In tonight's Daily Take - I'll tell you why that is the real official platform of the Republican Party. Ever since Franklin Delano Roosevelt famously won the office of the presidency four times in a row, the Republican strategy against Democrats has been pretty simple and can be summed up in one word: "Sabatoge." When there's a Democrat in the White House, simply and purely do everything possible to sabatoge his efforts to do anything that will make him look good or will help the American people If President Obama doesn't start channeling his inner Harry Truman, we should all get ready for President Romney - and the super-hard-right-wing Supreme Court he'll bring us.
Nixon's treason? I was wrong. You're not Bill Maher, you're Bill Ayers...
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2012/06/06 15:19:58
Subject: What do they really mean by "most extreme" president of all time?
AustonT wrote:FDR might have dropped the bomb on Tokyo.
Unlikely. Tokyo wasn't a good target.
Keep in mind that at the time, we (or at least the political class) didn't really know, or care about, the long-term effects of radiation. They just knew they had an extremely powerful weapon that could level much of a city from a single blast. The value wasn't necessarily in the destruction the bomb caused, but in the psychological value that a single blast could cause. If we can level much of a city with a single bomb, wiping out whole sections of Japan would be next to nothing. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were chosen because they were relatively intact and would better show off the potential of the bombs. Tokyo wouldn't be a good target because we'd already destroyed a good part of the city.
It would depend on the symbolic status of the city.
If Tokyo was being thought of as unbeatable no matter how many bombs the US dropped on it, obliterating it with one or two more may well cause morale to drop massively.
Tokyo had already been firebombed and was a mass wasteland at the time. More civilians died at Tokyo than Hiroshima.