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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 16:02:42
Subject: Marneus Calgar Shooting Attacks!
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Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader
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Hey dudes.
I'm not a big fan of Calgar on the whole but have been considering creating a version of Pugh, The Imp Fist Chapter Master with TH's counts as Gauntlets.
Checking the Codex I am unsure as to what the rules for Calgars Bolters are... It says assault 2, but he has two of these... does this mean that in reality you'd roll four dice or is the stat line the limits of his shooting?
Thanks for your help dudes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 16:05:02
Subject: Marneus Calgar Shooting Attacks!
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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It is two weapons that fire as one with the listed profile (similar to Dire Avenger Exarchs with 2 Avenger Shuriken Catapults).
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 17:28:44
Subject: Marneus Calgar Shooting Attacks!
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Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader
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Happyjew wrote:It is two weapons that fire as one with the listed profile (similar to Dire Avenger Exarchs with 2 Avenger Shuriken Catapults).
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Okedokey, thanks dude. Think I'll rethink the Chap Master option instead. Just wanted a Chapter Master who wasn't outlclassed by Lysander!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 17:31:15
Subject: Marneus Calgar Shooting Attacks!
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Even if it were two weapons, Calgar could not shoot both as he doesn't have a special rule allowing it.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 17:36:52
Subject: Marneus Calgar Shooting Attacks!
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Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader
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Reeto. at first glance it seemed like a decent weapon but is maybe a bit lame in comparison to Kantors Assault 4 Storm Bolter. (Maybe not if AP3, haven't got my codex to hand though)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 17:39:11
Subject: Marneus Calgar Shooting Attacks!
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Kantor has twice the shots, but Clagar's AP is 2x better.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 17:47:19
Subject: Marneus Calgar Shooting Attacks!
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Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader
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Its probably a silly question considering the special rules surrounding Calgar, but would you take him as a proxy for an Imperial Fist chap Master or would you use Kantor? I think Kantor is a bit of a cliche for Imp Fist option and Calgar could be construed as taking him for the sake of taking him.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 18:55:57
Subject: Marneus Calgar Shooting Attacks!
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Secretive Dark Angels Veteran
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Calgar's is 2 shots Str 4 AP2 reroll to wound. His is Wayyy better than Kantor's.
For proxy, you can do whatever you want. For count-as you need to have all the important wargear visible. Thus, if the IF chapter master has a hammer and a shield, your count-as model needs a hammer and a shield.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 20:42:04
Subject: Marneus Calgar Shooting Attacks!
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Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader
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I thought rerolls were only in CC!
I was thinking of substituting Gauntlets for Hammers but using them as Gauntlets for rules!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 20:58:33
Subject: Marneus Calgar Shooting Attacks!
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Nope. It spells out in the codex that Titanic Might applies to both shooting and close combat. Too bad he doesn't have T5,S5 like Drago.
I guess if your opponent is ok with that it should be fine. Most people know Calgar anyway. Make sure you tell him that Calgar has a power sword as well (just in case you want to kill those pesky MEQ at I5 re-roll to wound instead of I1).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 20:59:41
Subject: Marneus Calgar Shooting Attacks!
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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You mean the power weapon jammed in his head?
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/08 09:13:58
Subject: Marneus Calgar Shooting Attacks!
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He has a power weapon? Le funchfries?
When did this happen?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/08 09:37:09
Subject: Marneus Calgar Shooting Attacks!
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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3rd ed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/08 10:30:33
Subject: Marneus Calgar Shooting Attacks!
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
Hiding in a ruined Chimera
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Says that he can either use pf or a power sword in close combat
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/08 14:31:25
Subject: Marneus Calgar Shooting Attacks!
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He has a power weapon on his belt both for the power armour and terminator armour. His profile has both the Gauntlets of Ultramar and power weapon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/09 10:20:58
Subject: Marneus Calgar Shooting Attacks!
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver
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How the hell does he grab it. That is just MattWardTerminatorWithFragAndKrakGrenades dumb.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/09 10:25:29
Subject: Marneus Calgar Shooting Attacks!
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He shoots them from his eyes while spitting acid from his mouth. Hence the re-rolls....
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on the other hand Nobz they decided it was in the best interest of ork society that they "Go Green" as such they specifically modified their warbikes to not make giant smoke, dust, grit, clouds. Instead they are all about driving with clean air, one might say their bikes Gak out rainbows.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/09 12:18:28
Subject: Marneus Calgar Shooting Attacks!
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terranarc wrote:How the hell does he grab it. That is just MattWardTerminatorWithFragAndKrakGrenades dumb.
Presumably he turns off his power fists?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/09 16:54:24
Subject: Marneus Calgar Shooting Attacks!
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terranarc wrote:How the hell does he grab it. That is just MattWardTerminatorWithFragAndKrakGrenades dumb.
So its dumb that he made the rules match a pre-existing model?
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