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I bought a group of X-wings and Tie fighters from the Revell easy pocket model range, and when I built an X-wing and Tie fighter the scales were so completely and utterly different that there was no way I could use them together as the X-wing was slightly smaller than the Tie Fighter.





I found this really bloody annoying, as I was hoping to use them as PROXY's for the upcoming Fantasy Flight X-wing game...

EDIT - Completely forgot I took a picture of them and a lighter for scale.

Flayed ones. The old metal ones.

God I hate those claws...

Wait, the x-wing being smaller than the TIE interceptor isn't right? They're both one man fighters, but the Interceptor has those big wings, and that larger spherical structure around the cockpit, so should be a bit bigger, IIRC.

I don't think I've ever had a true nightmare project. The metal Hellcannon might have been one, if I hadn't left some of the pieces off. I can relate to the Flayed Ones- my old metal Daemonettes do have a tendency to lose an arm. I've reglued those arms many times over the years.

I don't recall any project that turned into a virtual reality kids gameshow, personally.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knightmare

But I did buy a limited edition Studio McVey mini to use as a IG veteran sergeant which turned out to be on a different scale. She'd have been, like, 8ft tall. Still, lovely mini.

Better fix the title


WGF Skeletons. After building 5 (more like 2.5 since half of them were not really full figures) I threw up my hands and gave up. Its like I'm building something that needs tweezers and hands half my size with arms made out of gold to keep still

No I'm not changing the title till some explains what the items you put in the satchel were ever used for.

I have no idea why but I used to watch that show, but never really engaged with it, it was like ambivalent telly. Constantly seeking Black Rectangular doors and waiting for an actor in tights to jump out and babble something before the player walked down a brick corridor before eventually getting beheaded by a Circular Razor saw....

Not really a nightmare because well its small...

But Marbo sucks for me. I can't get his arm to stay on, so I should really pin it.

How about my entire Infinity collection :(

Now that was epic.

A Forge World Baneblade.

Death korpse grenadiers. Those cables are sooooooooo fiddly!

mwnciboo wrote:No I'm not changing the title till some explains what the items you put in the satchel were ever used for.

I have no idea why but I used to watch that show, but never really engaged with it, it was like ambivalent telly. Constantly seeking Black Rectangular doors and waiting for an actor in tights to jump out and babble something before the player walked down a brick corridor before eventually getting beheaded by a Circular Razor saw....

I never missed it when I was young! Loved it.

Howard A Treesong wrote:

mwnciboo wrote:No I'm not changing the title till some explains what the items you put in the satchel were ever used for.

I have no idea why but I used to watch that show, but never really engaged with it, it was like ambivalent telly. Constantly seeking Black Rectangular doors and waiting for an actor in tights to jump out and babble something before the player walked down a brick corridor before eventually getting beheaded by a Circular Razor saw....

I never missed it when I was young! Loved it.

Me too. Loved Sylvester Hands. Such a great character. Not forgetting Lord Fear!

Pass In My Masters Name. Live. In. Fear.

sparkywtf wrote:Not really a nightmare because well its small...

But Marbo sucks for me. I can't get his arm to stay on, so I should really pin it.

it's a metal model, you should pin it regardless. There, nightmare solved! Fiddly bits like that are one of the reasons I haven't been able to bring myself to start an Eldar army. I can't imagine how much of a pain in the ass the Banshee and Scorpion arms are.

Brother SRM wrote:

sparkywtf wrote:Not really a nightmare because well its small...

But Marbo sucks for me. I can't get his arm to stay on, so I should really pin it.

it's a metal model, you should pin it regardless. There, nightmare solved! Fiddly bits like that are one of the reasons I haven't been able to bring myself to start an Eldar army. I can't imagine how much of a pain in the ass the Banshee and Scorpion arms are.

I know they should, but I don't have pinning supplies. It is the reason I bought a finecast Emperor's Champion for my BT. At least that won't fall apart all the time.

Those old metal hormagaunts. They made me change armies I was gonna play. (considering the state of Nids now, this wasn't a bad thing)

I saw a mention of those old GW fantasy skeletons...yeah the plastic ones were bad enough, I can't imagine if there were metal ones done the same way.

I decided to try an Eldar Iyanden army. Oh the wraithguard heads! Every one had a huge amount of flash in the groove that had to be filed down. I was so sick of those models by the time I had them glued that I put them away and never painted/played them.

How bout those Dog of War giants from the island who came with the druid? They were pretty bad too. I remember playing a kid who brought them out, gently set them down and by the end of the game, he was pushing around a pile of metal. Noone touched them, they spontaneously fall apart. We were talking and heard <klunk>, both of us looked and one model fell apart, hit the second and that one fell apart. TIMBER!!!

I refrain from buying any big models period anymore. The biggest I have is a land raider, and I only have that cause its a box shape. I prefer infantry armies, which is prob why I'm playing fantasy more then 40k.

Gluing all those small bits on obliterators. Made me sell the models cause they just kept falling off.

Land Speeders & DE Raiders - I hate the chassis on both models, they were the bane of my life when I got them!

I'm reluctant to get any more Raiders as I know how much I hate assembling them, but equally I don't want to be accused of venom spamming!

I don't recall any project that turned into a virtual reality kids gameshow, personally.

When I was at university our gaming club made a Knightmare game for our annual convention two years running complete with green screen and over the top skeleton hat. Was quite fun to play from what people told me afterwards. I coulden't play because I had read the senario before hand :( and was random grunt b lol.

No I'm not changing the title till some explains what the items you put in the satchel were ever used for.

I think it let you carry things and used to hold 'food' so you didn't die of starvation.

The hardest model I have bought was the temple guard lizard men character. Have never gotten the teeny tiny horns to stick and they are too thin for me to pin :(


Noel

Metal Ork Deff Dredd - legs.
Old Dark Eldar Ravager and Raider - staying on flying bases, general transportation woes.
Ghorgon / Bloodthirster Conversion - Greenstuff-tastic - details here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/454073.page
Old metal Shokk Attack Gun - was 12 but still needed araldite!
In fact, pretty much every hobby project / army ever!

Oh wait, another good one, I tried to make a Wulfen Terminator once, all metal parts including a WFB werewolf. Drilled a hole in my mum's kitchen table. Epic fail. She still hasn't forgiven me 10 years and all grown up later....

Hazrat

Buffytrek wrote:

No I'm not changing the title till some explains what the items you put in the satchel were ever used for.

I think it let you carry things and used to hold 'food' so you didn't die of starvation.

Fair enough, Title now edited.

My other example is the old style Forge World Drop Pods (OMFG that was an unpleasant experience to build and a shocker to paint).

mwnciboo wrote:My other example is the old style Forge World Drop Pods (OMFG that was an unpleasant experience to build and a shocker to paint).

Let me guess, the resin was poorly cured and sweating?

Worst kit I have made is the old 1/72 Revell Thunderbolt. The current kit is a very good retooling, but the older one was shockingly bad. It didn't fit, was full of huge gaps where parts simply weren't the right size and it was covered in rivets like a rash of pimples. It was worth it for the transfers but the rest of the kit went in the bin after an abortive attempt to make something from it.

Ooh, then there was the aeroplane kit I won in a competition that had two left wings, so I wrote to the company and they sent me a sprue with the right wing. So I sat down to make it and suddenly realised that the aircraft had two top halves and no bottom. Wasn't writing to them again so that went in the bin.

Bought a load of motorbike kits from Hypervalue thinking they were Tamiya quality but they were complete toy-like crap. Was deceived by the fact that the 1/35th military kits they were selling for £5 each WERE Tamiya castings, albeit slightly dubious looking ones.

BrookM wrote:

mwnciboo wrote:My other example is the old style Forge World Drop Pods (OMFG that was an unpleasant experience to build and a shocker to paint).

Let me guess, the resin was poorly cured and sweating?

Yup and the parts once straightened, were badly cast and I need to spend hours filing off and cutting the bad pieces, the base had a ridiculous amount of extra flash, which couldn't be filed off because it was nearly 1cm thick.

mwnciboo wrote:

BrookM wrote:

mwnciboo wrote:My other example is the old style Forge World Drop Pods (OMFG that was an unpleasant experience to build and a shocker to paint).

Let me guess, the resin was poorly cured and sweating?

Yup and the parts once straightened, were badly cast and I need to spend hours filing off and cutting the bad pieces, the base had a ridiculous amount of extra flash, which couldn't be filed off because it was nearly 1cm thick.

Oh yeah, that's the Forge World blues.

kitch102 wrote:Land Speeders & DE Raiders - I hate the chassis on both models, they were the bane of my life when I got them!

I'm reluctant to get any more Raiders as I know how much I hate assembling them, but equally I don't want to be accused of venom spamming!

Oh my god, I forgot the old Land Speeder model. I tried to put together 2-3 and they always came out as disasters. The last one I had turned into a lovely piece of wrecked vehicle terrain! I haven't put together the new one, but I've heard it's at least somewhat better.

New Dark Eldar Raiders and Ravagers.

While being lovely models on paper, the fiddly nature of the Ravager's turrets, the Chasis and the levels of the vehicle make it a living hell to assemble.

Metal Daemon Prince

It's supplied with a 40mm base, you tell me how that fits on there. It's hunched over, with it's torso incredibly hard to fix together and it's limbs far greater than it's torso alone. The plastic isn't much of a looker, but in all respects, it out classes the old model in every single aspect.

timthehierodule wrote:Death korpse grenadiers. Those cables are sooooooooo fiddly!

This this this this this. Ten million times this. Owning sixty of the buggers, I nearly went insane.



Also, the Thunderfire Cannon was an unholy nightmare.

Privateer Press's Khador Behemoth was another, I bought it in summer 2007. It's not so much that it didn't fit together, but that the model was designed such that one leg was raised and the model rested entirely on one leg which fit to the model via a tiny 1.5mm tall ball-socket joint about the size of a 40k scale frag grenade. Needless to say, it sits in multiple pieces to this day.

Also, any Infinity model with Antenna.

None of my projects have turned into nightmares.

I don't impulse buy, and purchases come after consideration and research.

Not saying that projects haven't been started and then shelved, but none turned into nightmares. I don't have OCD or compulsive collectoritis, so stopping something before that point is ALWAYS an option for me.

Mannahnin wrote:Wait, the x-wing being smaller than the TIE interceptor isn't right? They're both one man fighters, but the Interceptor has those big wings, and that larger spherical structure around the cockpit, so should be a bit bigger, IIRC.

The spherical structure is the cockpit. Ties are tiny

The cheaper Star Wars kits have never really stuck to any particular scale, though. Annoying, but seems to be the standard. Star Trek kits had a similar issue... trying to find a set of the various Enterprises that is actually to scale is an exercise in futility.



The worst kit for me was a 1:72 Beaufighter (this one) that I bought for my grandfather, and wound up assembling after he passed away. Had vast acres of untamed flash, one of the wheels looked like someone had pressed a lit match into the side of it, the socket for the wings to fit to the fuselage was completely the wrong size and shape, and the cockpit interior was about 4 or 5mm too wide to fit inside the fuselage... which is pretty significant on a cockpit that is only 15mm wide to begin with.


For gaming models, the plastic landspeeder kit was probably the biggest hassle. Got it with the 3rd edition starter. I don't know if they have fixed the issue yet, but as others have mentioned the early versions at least had some pretty serious warpage on the hull.

insaniak wrote:

Mannahnin wrote:Wait, the x-wing being smaller than the TIE interceptor isn't right? They're both one man fighters, but the Interceptor has those big wings, and that larger spherical structure around the cockpit, so should be a bit bigger, IIRC.

The spherical structure is the cockpit. Ties are tiny

The cheaper Star Wars kits have never really stuck to any particular scale, though. Annoying, but seems to be the standard. Star Trek kits had a similar issue... trying to find a set of the various Enterprises that is actually to scale is an exercise in futility.



The worst kit for me was a 1:72 Beaufighter (this one) that I bought for my grandfather, and wound up assembling after he passed away. Had vast acres of untamed flash, one of the wheels looked like someone had pressed a lit match into the side of it, the socket for the wings to fit to the fuselage was completely the wrong size and shape, and the cockpit interior was about 4 or 5mm too wide to fit inside the fuselage... which is pretty significant on a cockpit that is only 15mm wide to begin with.


For gaming models, the plastic landspeeder kit was probably the biggest hassle. Got it with the 3rd edition starter. I don't know if they have fixed the issue yet, but as others have mentioned the early versions at least had some pretty serious warpage on the hull.

Pretty much every LS I own is like that. The forward upper and lower hull do not meet so I ended up using rubber bands which did not work...I still have 3-5 that need to be build but I dread it.