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To cut a long story short, there are usually around 10 local players in my area who i can get a game with whenever i want, this is good, but they have over time changed tactics a bit.
Main issues im having:

BA razorspam list, IG massed battletanks, GK armourspam (raz and raid)

Now, ive moved onto necrons to make a nice change from DE and daemons, but im hitting a snag while thinking of lists.
Is it possible to remove armour quickly?
Ive thought about the scythe spam and seems viable, but need some input on the best ways to remove armour.

Like doom arks, but having to sit still while taking heavy fire, i dont like.
I am however thinking about the death ray as the tanks are pretty bunched up on deployment.
Hoping to pretty much use a strafing run of 3 death rays over a few at once, but again, i need some input.

Last idea was simply to keep them in the dark for aslong as possible to reduce return fire.

Scarabs with Entropic Strike is all you need for armor.

Lots of Scarabs. (Or Gauss Weapons, lots of Gauss)

Main issues with scarabs i have is:

Battle cannons and flamestorm cannons.
Both of which shred scarabs at an alarming rate, even in cover.

Spyders? They can spawn Scarab bases around them.

I don't have my codex on me atm to investigate all of the options, but DeathReaper is pretty much on the mark... anything with Entropic Strike is almost an "I Win" button against armor, or anything spamming gauss... which kinda includes the standard foot, though I'd not want to take them up against the heaviest armor units.

In my opinion an overlord with scythe in a CCB is our most reliable AT in the codex.

Av 13 through quantum shielding and the ability to go flat-out for a cover save, always hits or 4s, or 3s, always on rear armor, and 2d6 + 7 for armor pen.

well lets just say my friend who runs two land raiders hates me for bringing 2 of them...

Next to that is definitely scarabs, keep them FAR away from flamers if you can, and keep at least half the squad in cover for a 3+ save against most shooting. Combined with move through cover your movement shouldn't be hindered too much by it and with a potential 24" charge the only thing they really hate are de skimmers who they usually have to hit on 6s.

Jackal wrote:Main issues with scarabs i have is:

Battle cannons and flamestorm cannons.
Both of which shred scarabs at an alarming rate, even in cover.

Flamestorm cannons should not come close to touching scarabs until after they assault something because the scarabs have a big threat range, being beasts. (I think they are still beasts.)

and Night fighting is your friend.