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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/12 00:08:21
Subject: Solar pulse + transport question
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Lethal Lhamean
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If a cryptek with a solar pulse joins a warrior or immortal squad embarked in a night scythe, can the cryptek use his solar pulse if his vehicle is in play?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/12 00:14:28
Subject: Solar pulse + transport question
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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It's not a shooting attack, and does not require line of sight. I don't see why not.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/17 10:05:04
Subject: Solar pulse + transport question
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The Cryptek and the squad aren't actually embarked in the Night Scythe, so are considered to be off board until they 'beam' in. I don't think you can use a models abilities from off table, or in reserve...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/17 10:10:33
Subject: Solar pulse + transport question
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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ted1138 wrote:The Cryptek and the squad aren't actually embarked in the Night Scythe, so are considered to be off board until they 'beam' in. I don't think you can use a models abilities from off table, or in reserve...
By that logic a unit embarked in a Chimera cannot shoot out of the top hatch, as they are "not on the table". This has no rules backing at all. Fluff-wise you might be correct, but not rules-wise.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/17 10:24:08
Subject: Solar pulse + transport question
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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ted1138 wrote:The Cryptek and the squad aren't actually embarked in the Night Scythe, so are considered to be off board until they 'beam' in. I don't think you can use a models abilities from off table, or in reserve...
Sure they're onboard regardless of what the fluff says. A night Scythe has exactly one exception to the normal transport rules and that is if the vehicle is destroyed THEN the transported unit goes into Reseve.
However until that point it functions exactly as a normal transport, which means a solar pulse can be used from within as LOS is not a requirement.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/17 10:25:23
Subject: Solar pulse + transport question
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Happyjew wrote:ted1138 wrote:The Cryptek and the squad aren't actually embarked in the Night Scythe, so are considered to be off board until they 'beam' in. I don't think you can use a models abilities from off table, or in reserve...
By that logic a unit embarked in a Chimera cannot shoot out of the top hatch, as they are "not on the table". This has no rules backing at all. Fluff-wise you might be correct, but not rules-wise.
But they are on the table(they're inside the Chimera). The Necrons, on the other hand, are not inside the Night Scythe.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/17 10:39:13
Subject: Solar pulse + transport question
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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Fluff is irrelevant to rules.
Transported units are inside their transports for all intents and purposes.
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/17 15:15:14
Subject: Solar pulse + transport question
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Jidmah wrote:Fluff is irrelevant to rules.
Transported units are inside their transports for all intents and purposes.
Only because all other transports actually contain the troops they're transporting, the night scythe simply carries a piece of equipment for 'beaming' them into play.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/17 15:26:25
Subject: Solar pulse + transport question
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Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker
South Chicago burbs
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As others have already pointed out, the fluff of how the night scythe deploys its troops has nothing to do with the actual game play.
Night scythes follow the same rules that every other transport uses, so they CAN use the solar pulse from an embarked model.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/17 15:32:56
Subject: Re:Solar pulse + transport question
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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Still, there are no "beaming into play" rules, just transport rules. Whenever any vehicle is transporting anything, those rules apply. Those rules include being able to use powers.
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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