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Hey all, just been reading through the latest white dwarf and so far have gleaned some of the changes they will be implementing, such as rapid fire being able to move and still shoot once at max range, a "stand and shoot" reaction to being assaulted though at bs1 (unless you use the one psychic power), casualties coming from the front of the unit, characters being able to shoot specific models in a unit, monstrous creatures that fly can make a swoop attack (like crons battle barge), hull points on vehicles that are removed by each pen or glance, etc.

I know we need to wait for the rest of the book to be able to fully judge but from what i've gathered, orks are going to have a very tough time assaulting without dying and necrons will be laughing all day long as they advance forward shooting 24" and killing everything from gauss alone.

Im picking up the book day one but am honestly a little nervous about what ill read.

What do you guys think?

I think its going to be awsome. I can't wait for Friday(pulling an all nighter at the FLGS)

I'm excited about a lot of the changes.

Grey Knights with the IG....is there a possible cobined armies we can do?

If the rumors are true, and I can use vanilla Marines alongside my Sisters of Battle, I will be pleased. The rest, I will get used to.

Waiting to see. I like a lot of the things that I have heard, particularly Assault Marines getting an I10 attack in addition to regular attacks when assaulting and allies.

Well according to GW's site the only army that does not get allies is tyranids:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?catId=&categoryId=§ion=&pIndex=0&aId=22400024a&start=1&multiPageMode=true

GK get:
All of the marine chapters(except CSM)
Imperial Guard
Necron
Orks
Dark Eldar
Sisters
Eldar

Guard get:
All of the marine chapters
CSM
Chaos Daemons
Sisters
Orks
Eldar
Dark Eldar
Necron
Tau

I wonder if Nids are getting anything to compensate. Maybe some Nid structures that buff the army.

I get that guard allying with CSM and CD is to represent traitor guard, but those players BETTER make the paint schemes (and customization) fit appropriately-otherwise they'll just look like bandwagoners. Show that the guard have given themselves to chaos, and you have a great allied fluff list.

I am glad the two armies I have can be allies, I can hopefully make good use of the allies rules. I also have some leftover tau I may be able to use but I don't think I would want to.


When I was thinking about it the fluff for Mind shackle scarabs almost supports necrons allying with almost anyone, they aren't doing it voluntarily the "allies" leader is being controlled by the necrons after he/she was infested with scarabs at some point.