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Boo-yah, thanks for the heads up!

Oh sweet baby jeebus, thank you.

Pretty mild changes so far.

Techmarines and Mekboyz can repair Hull Points, that's pretty neat.

Sweeeeeeeeeet!

DEAR LORD INVASION BEAMS! NIGHT SCYTHES REJOICE!

Not only is that supersonic transport now playable, but the passengers can disembark after it has moved up to THIRTY SIX INCHES! ARE YOU KIDDING ME? I play Necrons, and if anyone would actually ever roll in the floor laughing their ass off, I'd do it right now.

The only restriction is if it moves over 24" the disembarked unit can only fire snap shots! Oh how terrible! Every other transport moves 6" before the guys disembark. These guys have to move 'only' 24" for the passengers to be able to shoot normally.

Additionally, Whip Coils are now a 'set value modifier' meaning they modify target's initiative to 1 after every other modifier has been added, making it a lot stronger, as suspected.

Additionally, Warscythe is +2 strength, AP1, armour bane (2D6 pen), making it (keeping it) the best close combat weapon in the game. No AP3 nerf to it, no initiative nerf to it, nothing.

Farseers are Mastery Level 1, Swarmlord is 2

Winged Hive Tyrants are Flying Monstrous Creatures, Winged Daemon Princes are Jump Monstrous Creatures

Yay consistency!

TAU Battlesuits can no longer take Target Locks, which means they cannot split fire between the suits. This is a massive hit to Broadsides.

Interestingly a lot of SM "any friendly..." abilities have been reworded to only work with units from the same Codex.

Is anyone else confused by the wording of combat squads (I'm reading it in the BA one) as the very first question/answer of the eratta?

So now I have to declare if I'm combat squadding before DEPLOYMENT, rather than when I get out of a drop pod. It's not very clear, but if I combat squad a unit in a drop pod (and it says they can both embark the same transport), then neither counts against my number of units for reserving, since it's "mandatory" to reserve both?

Or something? So confusing!

IG clarifies orders/creed/straken can only be issued to codex:IG units.
I guess a lot of special charectors/effects only affect their own codex now.

Is it just me or did nothing gain the Skyfire rule?

lord_blackfang wrote:Pretty mild changes so far.

Techmarines and Mekboyz can repair Hull Points, that's pretty neat.

Now I can finally use my Techpriest without feeling completely like I'm giving my opponent extra points!

Hydra's did.

I've not found anything else relating to it so far.

No 'flakk missile' options either :(

The Dark Eldar FAQ is awful, just awful, fails to address a lot of things, it has contradictory errata and amendments, a lot of the decisions they have made are not in the best interest of the codex IMO.

It comes off as rushed and poorly executed.

I am repulsed by reading this document.

Anything with an area of affect only affects its own codex now, as far as i can tell.

lord_blackfang wrote:Pretty mild changes so far.

Techmarines and Mekboyz can repair Hull Points, that's pretty neat.

Hmmm, my Kan Wall might still have some life left in it yet!

@ RiTides

it's the same as before, the key word is "immediately". So you declare they're combat squading and then deploy them straight away.

grrr

This seems like quite an odd one for Blood Angels...

Page 23 – The Red Thirst.
Add “Independent Characters that have succumbed to the Red
Thirst can only join the Death Company, and units that have
also succumbed to the Red Thirst.”

As far as I can tell, that pretty much only applies to noone....

Snufflesms wrote:TAU Battlesuits can no longer take Target Locks, which means they cannot split fire between the suits. This is a massive hit to Broadsides.

I noticed this as well, unless there is a rule change somewhere that allows you to split fire. If not, its pretty fethed up :(.

Some Ork units have lost the Waaagh! and Mob Special Rule :(

Other than that dosnt seem too bad, like how you only use the toughness figure in brackets now.

lord_blackfang wrote:Is it just me or did nothing gain the Skyfire rule?

I don't mean to be pumping my own tires but I made something like 3 posts last night trying to calm people down and make them understand the weapons were already printed in the rulebook and that most likely nothing would gain skyfire and definately not interceptor.

Funnily enough, I don't think anyone even got the option to fire the Flakk Missile, which has skyfire in the rulebook.

Hydra's did.

Hydras didn't gain anything, and neither did the Hydra Autocannon. The gun already had skyfire in the rulebook, so this FAQ just makes the codex consistent with the new rules.

It also confirms Hydra Autocannons hit ground targets with 6's.

I can't help but notice In an Edition where they are moving away from lots of high AP melee weapons, Necrons (who were already doing decent from the changeover) got an AP1 weapon, an AP1 weapon that also rolls 2d6 to penetrate vehicles and is +2 to strength.

Meanwhile the only AP2 melee weapon in the Dark Eldar codex anymore is Demiklaives, which GW don't even make a model to represent.

Not to mention Necrons are also the fastest army in the game thanks to the Night Scythe's 24 inch disembark.

I dunno who deserves the bigger slow clap, GW's rules morons, or me for thinking they might get it right for once.

Well Kharn just get a bit nerfed. Gorechild now counts as a power axe with an extra D6 armor pen.

So I1 Kharn

Charax wrote:
Winged Hive Tyrants are Flying Monstrous Creatures, Winged Daemon Princes are Jump Monstrous Creatures

Yay consistency!

I'll go you one better. A winged DP from Codex: CSM is Jumping, but a winged DP from Codex: Daemons is Flying.

lord_blackfang wrote:I'll go you one better. A winged DP from Codex: CSM is Jumping, but a winged DP from Codex: Daemons is Flying.

...What?

Oh that's just not cool.

Therion wrote:DEAR LORD INVASION BEAMS! NIGHT SCYTHES REJOICE!

Not only is that supersonic transport now playable, but the passengers can disembark after it has moved up to THIRTY SIX INCHES! ARE YOU KIDDING ME? I play Necrons, and if anyone would actually ever roll in the floor laughing their ass off, I'd do it right now.

The only restriction is if it moves over 24" the disembarked unit can only fire snap shots! Oh how terrible! Every other transport moves 6" before the guys disembark. These guys have to move 'only' 24" for the passengers to be able to shoot normally.

Yeah, its nuts but the counter is that Night Scythes can't hover which means they've got that limited mobility of always having to zoom. In some cases this is going to be a pain in the butt.

However, yeah, disembarking after 36" is pretty crazy even with that negative.

Isnt Flakk an option for any missile launchers? It says that the weapons in the codex are functionally the same as the rule book.

If so Missile HWTs are still going to be my go to guys.

Therion wrote:
Hydras didn't gain anything, and neither did the Hydra Autocannon. The gun already had skyfire in the rulebook, so this FAQ just makes the codex consistent with the new rules.

It also confirms Hydra Autocannons hit ground targets with 6's.

Well *excuse* me for not getting my Rulebook yet cause of Royal Mail being lazy.

Also I find no explicit references to "Hydra Autocannons hit ground targets with 6's."

Page 51 - Hydra Flak Tank, Hyda Autocannon.
Add the Skyfire special rule to the Hydra Autocannon's type.

Page 51 - Hydra Flak Tank, Auto-Targeting System.
Replace this entry with "Target units cannot claim a Jink save against shots fired by the Hydra."

lord_blackfang wrote:

Charax wrote:
Winged Hive Tyrants are Flying Monstrous Creatures, Winged Daemon Princes are Jump Monstrous Creatures

Yay consistency!

I'll go you one better. A winged DP from Codex: CSM is Jumping, but a winged DP from Codex: Daemons is Flying.

There's an easy answer to that! Codex Chaos Space Marines is so good that they don't need the vector strikes from their DPs! It was a carefully planned balance move.

Also I find no explicit references to "Hydra Autocannons hit ground targets with 6's."

It's because you haven't read the rulebook. If your weapon has skyfire, you hit skimmers and flyers and flying MCs with normal BS, but you hit ground targets with 6's. Skyfire makes a weapon an anti-aircraft gun. Anti-aircraft guns are not used to effectively kill for example enemy infantry, and this rule represents that well.