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Haven't seen much rage on the Psychic Hood nerf. Codex SM FAQ says refer to Rulebook. Page 68 says, may extend the Librarians defense modifiers to another unit up to 6" away... NERF!

What say you Dakka?

Yeh, they're pretty terrible now, there's no denying it.

I see librarians as pretty pointless now, you won't take one for the hoods nullifying ability, you may take one for null zone and 1 other power but the random powers are just that, too random to be of much use. If when you roll for psychic powers on one of the tables and end up with powers that don't compliment libbys wargear or army composition you end up with a worthless 100pt+ unit.

I use to be on the hoods suck because my army couldnt take them. Now that they are nerfed I dont care.

Easy Solution: Ally a Rune Priest, with some Grey Hunters to hide with. Runic Weapons haven't changed. Yet.

Ahhh... Allies the solution to all!

That will work well in tourneys.

I say hooorayyy!

The Psychic Hood nerf really hurts, especially since it can no longer cancel friendly-targeted and AoE psychic powers.

Basically hoods now are just a 5+ DTW on 1-2 units (since it has 6" range). Not particularly good.

Grey Knights got hurt less since they'll always have Aegis and a 5+ DTW, and their hoods are more likely to provide the +2 bonus (with Mastery 2/3 Librarians), so hoods will usually up the DTW to a 4+. However, Rune Priests and Runes of Warding Farseers are still the top of the list for psychic defense.

MaxDamage wrote:I say hooorayyy!

Let me qualify this a lil better. Putting aside my SpaceWolves and going Eldar for the intro into 6th edition. Looking forward to breaking out some psychic attacks with my long ears.

Psychic hoods got a major nerf, but at the same time they were as annoying as balls to play against so I don't really mind.

Kaldor wrote:Psychic hoods got a major nerf, but at the same time they were as annoying as balls to play against so I don't really mind.

Yes, yes they were.

As an eldar player, when I saw the new hood rules I cried out in joy.

As a marine player my thoughts were "meh" since I used libby's very rarely in 5th edition, and psychic hoods even less. Nothing will really change for me on that front.

Going back to 5th Edition rules...

Tadashi wrote:Going back to 5th Edition rules...

dont let the door hit ya...............

MaxDamage wrote:

Tadashi wrote:Going back to 5th Edition rules...

dont let the door hit ya...............

I knew some who did this when 2nd went to 3rd. 3rd to 4th and 4th to 5th weren't such big changes.

People have just forgotten what it's like to see some real changes with new editions.

djones520 wrote:

MaxDamage wrote:

Tadashi wrote:Going back to 5th Edition rules...

dont let the door hit ya...............

I knew some who did this when 2nd went to 3rd. 3rd to 4th and 4th to 5th weren't such big changes.

People have just forgotten what it's like to see some real changes with new editions.

believe me, I am being quite tongue in cheek.

MaxDamage wrote:

djones520 wrote:

MaxDamage wrote:

Tadashi wrote:Going back to 5th Edition rules...

dont let the door hit ya...............

I knew some who did this when 2nd went to 3rd. 3rd to 4th and 4th to 5th weren't such big changes.

People have just forgotten what it's like to see some real changes with new editions.

believe me, I am being quite tongue in cheek.

Oh I know. I always laugh at rage quitters myself. I think we'll just see more of it this edition because people have gotten spoiled to smaller more transparent changes over the last couple of editions.

djones520 wrote:Oh I know. I always laugh at rage quitters myself. I think we'll just see more of it this edition because people have gotten spoiled to smaller more transparent changes over the last couple of editions.

Whenever I see someone complaining about rage-quitting, it just reminds me to check eBay and see if there's any good deals

Kaldor wrote:

djones520 wrote:Oh I know. I always laugh at rage quitters myself. I think we'll just see more of it this edition because people have gotten spoiled to smaller more transparent changes over the last couple of editions.

Whenever I see someone complaining about rage-quitting, it just reminds me to check eBay and see if there's any good deals

Eh... with the anonymity that the internet provides, I bet they'll still be at the store on game night. Let me know if you find one though.

Meh, some of the new Psychic Powers are good enough to make me not so sad about it.

Nobody in my area really ever used freaking Psykers, so, maybe that's why I'm meh. I'm annoyed that Runes of Warding and the Wolves' Psychic Hood didn't get nerfed, but thems the breaks.

EDIT:

You can now decide what Psychic Powers you are using / trading for the BRB ones. So, you can take Null Zone and idk, Vortex of Doom for your list, and you can choose to trade either of them for a power in the BRB.

Crazyterran wrote:Meh, some of the new Psychic Powers are good enough to make me not so sad about it.

Nobody in my area really ever used freaking Psykers, so, maybe that's why I'm meh. I'm annoyed that Runes of Warding and the Wolves' Psychic Hood didn't get nerfed, but thems the breaks.

EDIT:

You can now decide what Psychic Powers you are using / trading for the BRB ones. So, you can take Null Zone and idk, Vortex of Doom for your list, and you can choose to trade either of them for a power in the BRB.

No its all or none for swapping

oI ImMoRTaL Io wrote:

Crazyterran wrote:Meh, some of the new Psychic Powers are good enough to make me not so sad about it.

Nobody in my area really ever used freaking Psykers, so, maybe that's why I'm meh. I'm annoyed that Runes of Warding and the Wolves' Psychic Hood didn't get nerfed, but thems the breaks.

EDIT:

You can now decide what Psychic Powers you are using / trading for the BRB ones. So, you can take Null Zone and idk, Vortex of Doom for your list, and you can choose to trade either of them for a power in the BRB.

No its all or none for swapping

Unless your GKs, in which case you keep Hammerhand and swap the rest.

Psychic hoods nerfed? Good. Now they can learn how it feels to be constantly on the receiving end of imperial psychic shenanigans.

Seriously, it reduces the chasm between the haves and have-nots (read: xenos other than Eldar) in an increasingly potent aspect of the game, so I'm all for it.

I've always thought it was bad design to make the same model who casts psychic powers the key model for blocking them. It just makes them too much of an auto-include and so reduces variety in lists.

TutorialBoss wrote:Psychic hoods nerfed? Good. Now they can learn how it feels to be constantly on the receiving end of imperial psychic shenanigans.

Seriously, it reduces the chasm between the haves and have-nots (read: xenos other than Eldar)

And SoB. And IG. And BT.

Stop playing the victim card while ignoring part of the victims because they don't fit in with your greater argument, it's dishonest.

GreyHamster wrote:Easy Solution: Ally a Rune Priest, with some Grey Hunters to hide with. Runic Weapons haven't changed. Yet.

That's an awesome idea actually. Both the RP and the GH's are great units too.

TutorialBoss wrote:Psychic hoods nerfed? Good. Now they can learn how it feels to be constantly on the receiving end of imperial psychic shenanigans.

Seriously, it reduces the chasm between the haves and have-nots (read: xenos other than Eldar) in an increasingly potent aspect of the game, so I'm all for it.

I've always thought it was bad design to make the same model who casts psychic powers the key model for blocking them. It just makes them too much of an auto-include and so reduces variety in lists.

Your avatar scares me.

I'm very happy about the nerf.

I've always thought it was rediculous that someone can pay for a Librarian and they automatically get a psychic hood for free that most of the time stops psychic powers in their tracks.

I don't like having to spend all the points on psychic powers for any of my armies and then have some guy come along and make it so I can't use all those psychic powers I paid for. That's a lot of wasted points if the Libby sucessfully uses the hood.

I have had many battles where someone with a librarian has stopped most if not all of the powers for every turn of the game.

I had better chances of getting spells off vs Farseer runes of Warding than I ever did vs Librarians with Psychic Hoods. I say good riddance to them.

MaxDamage wrote:

Kaldor wrote:Psychic hoods got a major nerf, but at the same time they were as annoying as balls to play against so I don't really mind.

Yes, yes they were.

+1

Roadkill Zombie wrote:I'm very happy about the nerf.

I've always thought it was rediculous that someone can pay for a Librarian and they automatically get a psychic hood for free that most of the time stops psychic powers in their tracks.

I don't like having to spend all the points on psychic powers for any of my armies and then have some guy come along and make it so I can't use all those psychic powers I paid for. That's a lot of wasted points if the Libby sucessfully uses the hood.

I have had many battles where someone with a librarian has stopped most if not all of the powers for every turn of the game.

I had better chances of getting spells off vs Farseer runes of Warding than I ever did vs Librarians with Psychic Hoods. I say good riddance to them.

I don't know about you, but I have never had a pyshic hood amount to much of anything for me. I used to use my Daemonhunter Inquisitor with a Psychic Hood (unlimited raneg too) alongisde my Sisters and IG in Apocalypse. I had no less than 15 psychic powers used in a couple of Apoc turns and only blocked one of them. Because nearly every psyker is Leadership 10 and you lose ties it not all that effective most of the time. Ruen Weapons n the other hand are just amazingly awesome at blocking psyhic powers. Those of course are unnerfed.