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I couldn't find reference for this, but does anyone know if Typhoons can choose to fire Flakk?

Are typhoons given the option of upgrading to flakk in the codex? You only have Frag and Krak as base missiles, and the flakk are an upgrade. As we don't have a 6th edition codex yet, no one has flakk missiles.

Are typhoons given the option of upgrading to flakk in the codex? You only have Frag and Krak as base missiles, and the flakk are an upgrade. As we don't have a 6th edition codex yet, no one has flakk missiles.

Well the way its written, it does need to be upgraded...... but NO codex has the option, and NO FAQ (to the best of my knowledge) does either. So GW jsut made a new missle type, but nobody can use it. I havent check the terran peices, maybe theres a flakk gun on one of them?

Only Missile Launchers have had Flakk added as an ammo type in the reference section, and then its said to be an upgrade that some missile launchers can get(currently none)

Clyclone and Typhoon missile launchers are not missile launchers.

Grey Templar wrote:Only Missile Launchers have had Flakk added as an ammo type in the reference section, and then its said to be an upgrade that some missile launchers can get(currently none)

Clyclone and Typhoon missile launchers are not missile launchers.

DA FAQ does have CML classed as Heavy 2 Missile Launcher. However they are the only ones so far as I can tell.

Grey Templar wrote:
Only Missile Launchers have had Flakk added as an ammo type in the reference section, and then its said to be an upgrade that some missile launchers can get(currently none)

Clyclone and Typhoon missile launchers are not missile launchers.


DA FAQ does have CML classed as Heavy 2 Missile Launcher. However they are the only ones so far as I can tell.

How are cyclone ML, and a Typhoon ML, not missile launchers? I dont know how the Flakk will be added in to the mix here, but if/when it is, the cyclone, and Typhoon are both types of missile launchers...

Also Black Templars got the same FAQ, cyclone and tyhpoons are heavy 2.

Is a Storm Bolter a Bolter?

Is a Heavy Bolter a Bolter?

No. they are a Storm Bolter and a Heavy Bolter, they are not Bolters. (Sternguard can use special ammo with Bolters, but not with Storm Bolters.)

That is why they are different.

Guys, this is really not complicated.

The rulebook clearly states that some missile launchers have access to a missile option called Flakk.

Does your codex state you have the option to upgrade to Flakk missiles?
No.
Therefore, you don't get to fire Flakk missiles.

Danny Internets wrote:Guys, this is really not complicated.

The rulebook clearly states that some missile launchers have access to a missile option called Flakk.

Does your codex state you have the option to upgrade to Flakk missiles?
No.
Therefore, you don't get to fire Flakk missiles.

QFT. No option in your codex or FAQ, can't use it. I know so many of us WANT to have it (myself included), but right now we can't.

And my guess is that when we do get it it will be a replacement for one or both of your other missile types, so you will have to choose between AA and your other ammunition.

If you look in the appendix of 6th you will see EML,Typhoon,Cyclone launchers all serperate and distinct with frag(Plasma),Krak. Only the plain old missle launcher has flak as an option.

Icon720 wrote:If you look in the appendix of 6th you will see EML,Typhoon,Cyclone launchers all serperate and distinct with frag(Plasma),Krak. Only the plain old missle launcher has flak as an option.

The appendix is merely a brief reference. It does not include every rule in detail--that's what the rest of the rulebook is for. It is a summary. This is obvious. The entry for missile launchers is both clear and explicit.

Codex trumps rulebook, if your codex or FAQ doesn't give you the option to take flak missiles, then you can't. Currently no one has flak missiles.

Not being a naysayer but that that summary also lists the hull points per a vehicvle for all the codices. Where these are not in the FAQs. It looks like they intend to cut EML,Typhoon and Cyclone out of the Flak upgrade.

Do any of you guys play EPIC? There is a Marine unit type called the "Hunter". It is a Rhino Chasis and has a huge canister with a launch tray. Can anyone say Whirlwind / Hunter multi box set??... Any way, the Hunter was used as anti aircraft. And also if im not mistaken weren't the early methods of taling down fighters in WW 1 was to just cover and area with lead and hope it hits??

No, Flakk Missiles can not currently be fired by any unit in any book.

Drown them in twin linked weapons, my friend.

Under missile launcher in the book though it clearly states that "missile launchers" have flakk missiles, since none of the codexes that use that weapon were written when the skyfire rule existed would the more recent book (the 6th ed BRB) not trump the codex in this case.
The BRB says "missile launchers" have flakk missiles therefore they do surely? In just the same way it says a power axe has +1S / unwieldy. The updated version of the weapon in the 6th ed book takes precidence.

azala wrote:Under missile launcher in the book though it clearly states that "missile launchers" have flakk missiles, since none of the codexes that use that weapon were written when the skyfire rule existed would the more recent book (the 6th ed BRB) not trump the codex in this case.
The BRB says "missile launchers" have flakk missiles therefore they do surely? In just the same way it says a power axe has +1S / unwieldy. The updated version of the weapon in the 6th ed book takes precidence.

No it says some missile launchers have the option to upgrade to have Flakk missiles. Nowhere does it say that they get them for free.

Page 415 under missile launcher it has the flakk missile listed as one of the firing options.

You mean the same place where it says that Multi-lasers are AP -?

If you read the Rules section on missile launchers (page 57, which coincidently falls under the THE RULES (emphasis table of contests) section, it again states that Flakk missiles are on optional upgrade.
What is the point cost for the upgrade? Does it replace anything? You would need to check your Codex and/or FAQ to find out, and nobody has that information.

azala wrote:Page 415 under missile launcher it has the flakk missile listed as one of the firing options.

The same way the soulgrinder had the indirect fire mode in it's profile even though you had to buy it to use it.

If you read the entrance for Flakk it says clearly that some missile launchers have the option to upgrade to flakk.

azala wrote:Page 415 under missile launcher it has the flakk missile listed as one of the firing options.

No, that is the summary page which lists all possible options that a Missile Launcher may possibly fire. However, not all Missile Launchers have the option to take Flakk Missiles as explained in the FULL rules on page 57. And in fact, no current missile launchers in the game have that option yet.

yakface wrote:

azala wrote:Page 415 under missile launcher it has the flakk missile listed as one of the firing options.

No, that is the summary page which lists all possible options that a Missile Launcher may possibly fire. However, not all Missile Launchers have the option to take Flakk Missiles as explained in the FULL rules on page 57. And in fact, no current missile launchers in the game have that option yet.

I think the fortress of Redemption is the only unit that has the option to purchase Flak.

barnowl wrote:

yakface wrote:

azala wrote:Page 415 under missile launcher it has the flakk missile listed as one of the firing options.

No, that is the summary page which lists all possible options that a Missile Launcher may possibly fire. However, not all Missile Launchers have the option to take Flakk Missiles as explained in the FULL rules on page 57. And in fact, no current missile launchers in the game have that option yet.

I think the fortress of Redemption is the only unit that has the option to purchase Flak.

Not in the main rulebook.

Eventually new codices/errata will be released and somebody will have access to Flakk Missiles. Who knows, maybe GW will throw everybody for a loop and only give them to Eldar.

barnowl wrote:

yakface wrote:

azala wrote:Page 415 under missile launcher it has the flakk missile listed as one of the firing options.

No, that is the summary page which lists all possible options that a Missile Launcher may possibly fire. However, not all Missile Launchers have the option to take Flakk Missiles as explained in the FULL rules on page 57. And in fact, no current missile launchers in the game have that option yet.

I think the fortress of Redemption is the only unit that has the option to purchase Flak.

No, it has Fragstorm missiles(essentially a large blast Frag missile) and it can purchase Krakstorm missiles(Large blast Krak missile)

yakface wrote:

azala wrote:Page 415 under missile launcher it has the flakk missile listed as one of the firing options.

No, that is the summary page which lists all possible options that a Missile Launcher may possibly fire. However, not all Missile Launchers have the option to take Flakk Missiles as explained in the FULL rules on page 57. And in fact, no current missile launchers in the game have that option yet.

Page 57 says that not all missile launchers have the option to take Flakk, which is demonstrated by Eldar, cyclone, typhoon, etc. missile launchers not getting that in their reference profile. That the generic missile launcher gained the profile would indicate that it DOES now have that option. A multi-codex rewrite that, while not FAQ supported (and given the 'use these if you want' addendum on FAQs doesn't mean a whole lot), means that many people playing the game can handle a flying MC or vehicle flier.

Having gone into two games with fliers and no missile launchers, I can tell you, it ain't a pretty sight. 'Full on rout' seems to cover the result fairly well.

The generic missile launcher has gained the ability to upgrade, given permission.

Show permission.

rigeld2 wrote:The generic missile launcher has gained the ability to upgrade, given permission.

Show permission.

Don't have the book on me, does page 57 state that permission from a codex is required or permission in general? Permission in general is granted by the back of the book (and not granted to EML, CML, TML, etc. etc.) in the second case.

Slackermagee wrote:

rigeld2 wrote:The generic missile launcher has gained the ability to upgrade, given permission.

Show permission.

Don't have the book on me, does page 57 state that permission from a codex is required or permission in general? Permission in general is granted by the back of the book (and not granted to EML, CML, TML, etc. etc.) in the second case.

Page 57 gives some missile launchers the ability the upgrade to include flakk.

Now, find permission for your missile launchers to upgrade.

rigeld2 wrote:
Page 57 gives some missile launchers the ability the upgrade to include flakk.

Now, find permission for your missile launchers to upgrade.

Could you answer my question first? Does it state that the upgrade is codex specific? If it doesn't, the ability to upgrade is built right into the back of the book.