Why does no one play first founding chapters?

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**orkdestroyer1**

I have recently noticed that no oneplays some of the first founding chapters like the iron hands the salamanders the white scars or the imperial fists so why does everyone play ultramarines or succsessor chapters??? hope you can help

**SagesStone**

Not everyone does though, I've seen plenty of the first founding chapters. Well except Iron Hands, they seem a bit less common.

**Buttons**

The only loyalist first founding chapters I find interesting are the Imperial Fists and Dark Angels, and even then I prefer specific successors of theirs. I think part of it is that later founding chapters allow for more creativity since there is less existing fluff on them.

**orkdestroyer1**

I know their primarch was cool and he got decapitated....funny

**Sasori**

I don't know about you, but I've seen a Ton of Salamanders, Blood Angels, Space Wolves, Ultramarines, Dark Angels and Imperial Fists...

That's more than half of the loyalist founding chapters.

**Talamare**

I havent seen anyone play Iron Hands, but I definitely seen every other one you listed

**Stormtrooper520**

I play Salamanders! I have a 1750 point army

**Ravanar**

Maybe it's a case of people want to paint their own style or find the first founding schemes a bit dull, I can't comment. I'm thousand sons/blood ravens (through quirk of fate)

**Amanax**

I've seen Salamanders, Ultramarines, Dark Angels, Blood Angels, Space Wolves, and then various former loyal first founding legions. No real White Scars players in my area though. Same with Iron Hands.

**DeffDred**

You're all forgetting Death Guard, Thosand Sons, Emperor's Children, World Eaters and Black Legion.

I'm sure once the new codex for chaos is released we'll see a return of Word Bearers, Iron Warriors, Night Lords and Alpha Legion.

I miss 3.5

**baldrat61**

I Play Imperial Fist.

**SagesStone**

DeffDred wrote:I'm sure once the new codex for chaos is released we'll see a return of Word Bearers, Iron Warriors, Night Lords and Alpha Legion.

But, everyone is already playing Alpha Legion.

**Ravanar**

n0t_u wrote:But, everyone is already playing Alpha Legion.

Why is it I saw this and started thinking of Ninjas?

"There are 6 Alpha Legionaires on this table, see if you can spot them"

**Lord Rogukiel**

n0t_u wrote:
DeffDred wrote:I'm sure once the new codex for chaos is released we'll see a return of Word Bearers, Iron Warriors, Night Lords and Alpha Legion.

But, everyone is already playing Alpha Legion.

And Alpharius is everywhere...

**SoloFalcon1138**

So no one out there plays Ultramarines, Salamanders, Dark Angels, Blood Angels, or Space Wolves? Nor does anyone play Emperor's Children, Black Legion (Sons of Horus/Luna Wolves), Death Guard, or World Eaters?

Nope never seen a one...

**Cerebrium**

I've seen tonnes of first founding players. If anything, second founding chapter players are rarer.

**Dark Scipio**

I have notices:

Nearly to often:
Space Wolves
Blood Angels

Very often:
Dark Angels
Ultramarines

Often:
Imperial Fist

Not so often:
Raven Guard

Needs more players:
White Scars
Salamanders

hardly:
Iron Hands

I play Templars, Fists and Raven Guard and started with the now repainted Ultramarines. If I wouldnt have 2 black Marine armies I would start Iron Hands.

**lord_blackfang**

Iron Hands are the only ones I've never seen played locally. I play White Scars, myself.

**juraigamer**

I play iron hands...

Codex marines are tied for useage as ultra marines and salamanders, after that you tend to see raven guard and imperial fists, but yes white scars players are rare.

**htj**

A friend of mine plays Raven Guard, which is pleasingly unusual.

**Formosa**

I play the 1st chapter/Legion DA forever man