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2012/07/07 19:48:57
Subject: Can Chaos Deamons use CSM personal Icons for deep stirke?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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So guys what do you think? Can Chaos deamons use Personal Icons for deep strike?
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2012/07/07 19:52:54
Subject: Re:Can Chaos Deamons use CSM personal Icons for deep stirke?
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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Units from Codex: Daemons cannot use any kind of icon from codex: Chaos Space Marines for the pourposes of deepstrike scatter negation. However the reverse is true. (ie. CSM units may use daemon icons).
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2012/07/07 19:54:13
Subject: Re:Can Chaos Deamons use CSM personal Icons for deep stirke?
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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STC_LogisEngine wrote:Units from Codex: Daemons cannot use any kind of icon from codex: Chaos Space Marines for the pourposes of deepstrike scatter negation. However the reverse is true. (ie. CSM units may use daemon icons).
Is that in the Daemons book? EDIT: Ah, no it's in the CSM book. I see.
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2012/07/07 19:56:30
Subject: Can Chaos Deamons use CSM personal Icons for deep stirke?
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
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The CSM icons specifically state what can use them. Chaos demons cannot.
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2012/07/07 19:58:42
Subject: Can Chaos Deamons use CSM personal Icons for deep stirke?
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Pg81 CSM codex. Terminators, lesser, and greater daemons only.
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Er obliterators not greater daemons.
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2012/07/07 20:01:18
Subject: Can Chaos Deamons use CSM personal Icons for deep stirke?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The personal Icon says deamons. The fact that greater and lessor deamon are deamons have the deamon special rule I guess means nothing its so odd that people are so caught up on the greater or lessor they are deamons at the end of the day seems so simple to me when you read the allies rules.
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2012/07/07 20:15:36
Subject: Can Chaos Deamons use CSM personal Icons for deep stirke?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Right, however it also says to see Icons and Deep Strike which specifies only models in Terminator Armour, Obliterators and Lesser Daemons.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
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2012/07/07 20:17:16
Subject: Can Chaos Deamons use CSM personal Icons for deep stirke?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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No it also says greater deamons and Fateweaver is a Greater deamon in the chaos deamon codex
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2012/07/07 20:22:09
Subject: Can Chaos Deamons use CSM personal Icons for deep stirke?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Personal Icons: These icons simply guide teleporting models and Daemons (see Icons and Deep Strike).
Icons and Deep Strike: Note that Icons only work for models in Terminator Armour, Oblieterators and Lesser daemons.
It's all there, black and white, clear as crystal.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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2012/07/07 20:27:10
Subject: Can Chaos Deamons use CSM personal Icons for deep stirke?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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It also says greater deamons dude.
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2012/07/07 20:35:08
Subject: Can Chaos Deamons use CSM personal Icons for deep stirke?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Where? Icons only deal with deep striking, not including the everyone gets Mark of whoever. Greater Daemons in Codex Chaos Space Marines do not deep strike. Additionally, on page 81 It says as I quoted, only models in Terminator armour, obliterators and lesser daemons. This means (unlike the Chaos Daemon Icon) it does not work for any models out of Codex Chaos Damons.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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2012/07/07 20:51:24
Subject: Can Chaos Deamons use CSM personal Icons for deep stirke?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I don't have book here but I will get back to you I am sure it mentions them anyway I don't think people are taking the allies rules in to effect the way they should. The battle brother rule is pretty broad.
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2012/07/07 20:52:48
Subject: Can Chaos Deamons use CSM personal Icons for deep stirke?
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MDizzle, why would you keep arguing it without the book? Greater Daemons aren't listed as using Icons in Codex: CSM. Why would they be? They don't DS in that codex.
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2012/07/07 20:55:05
Subject: Can Chaos Deamons use CSM personal Icons for deep stirke?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I am going to go get it I don't have it right here at this place I am on my way to a place that has it.
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