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Way to go.....Sweden?

A school in southern Sweden told a female student to "tone down" her homosexuality as a remedy to bullying from other students for being gay, prompting the girl to report the school for discrimination.

The victim's report, which has filed with the Swedish Equality Ombudsman (Diskrimineringsombudsmannen, DO), explains how the teen had to quit her studies at the Munkgård high school after severely mistreatment from other students.

Teachers at the school were unhelpful when she raised the matter with them, telling the girl to "tone down" her sexuality as other students were "confused and scared" by it.

According to the girl's report, the incidents began when she was assaulted in 2010 by a fellow student who had hit her in the head, causing a minor head fracture.

“She threatened to shove pliers into my eyes and then she took hold of the pliers and delivered three hefty hits against my temples and the area close to my eyes,” the girl wrote in the report.

When she later consulted the school about the incident, teachers told her it was all her own fault.

According to the report, the school told her:

“You’re the one to blame. It was your own fault. You provoked her,” adding that she should have “just hit back.”

After online research, the girl discovered that the school must report any mistreatment that occurs during school hours, and confronted the school, only to be told that it was up to her to make a report.

The case is now being handled by the DO, but before any compensation decisions are made, the school will be given the chance to comment, according to DO case officer Sara Stenberg.

“We have made a request for the principal of the school to comment on the case. This is standard procedure. They have until July 6th to make a comment,” she told The Local.

Salomon Rogberg

http://www.thelocal.se/41860/20120705/

Way to blame the victim Sweden!

*Sigh* Get every penny you can, Girl.

'A minor head fracture'?!?! A principal learned someone suffered 'a minor head fracture' in his school and answered 'you should've hit him too'?!?! I don't... I can't... God... I hope there's a Hell somewhere for dumbfraks like these...

She could have been killed. A lucky blow to the temple could have...
And the school's response, "Why didn't you hit her back?!"
Ah, Sweden.

I mean, 'head fracture'. Just repeat this mentally, how bad this sounds.

''Oh honey what's up, you look pale?''
''Oh nothing mommy, I was totally being a annoying butch at school and some kid fractured my head for it. But don't worry, I spoke to my principal, next time I'll make sure I get him too, so everything will be fine''

You know, maybe this warrants some attention from some online community prone to some hacktivity...

Terrible. Hope the suit goes through without a hitch and some people learn how to better deal with this than the sad way it was handled.

I am a bit confused as to the "minor head fracture" bit. Brain still in skull: minor, out of skull: major? It still sounds bad, minor heart attack is still life threatening, minor head fracture sounds pretty rough as well.

Emperor Be Praised.
ARe you serious? Stupid school!
hopefully that girl gets every Emperor fething penny she can! She deserves it!

Unless someone has threatened your life, attacking someone's face with pliers while threatening to pluck out their eyes indicates psychopathic levels of anger. And that seems much more troubling than a student being openly gay.

To be fair, "You should have hit back." is right. The rest of it is questionable, but if someone comes at you with pliers and the intent to do harm, F them up.

When will kids learn that junior high and high school are NOT the time to be expressing your individuality? Children are ruthless at that age. All of them. Even the ones who pretend to be good.

Wait until college to show any kind of personality that might go against the status quo. Then you can start suing people without your pesky parents getting a hold of your money.

To be fair, we don't really know what she was being asked to "tone down" from. Being overtly sexual, regardless of what the nature of it is, can get you bullied.

Granted homosexuals definitely have it worse in the vast majority of places.

dogma wrote:To be fair, we don't really know what she was being asked to "tone down" from. Being overtly sexual, regardless of what the nature of it is, can get you bullied.

Granted homosexuals definitely have it worse in the vast majority of places.

I know plenty of gay people who blend in quite nicely with society without issue, and who are openly gay. They don't dress flamboyantly, they don't talk with made up lisps. They act normal, and are treated normal.

Pro tip: If you act like Big Gay Al, you WILL get gak for it.

You think Anderson Cooper runs around screaming like a school girl and saying the word "fabulous" at everything? No. He acts normal, and people treat him normal.

Being gay has feth all to do with being annoying. Some people want attention, negative or not, so they act out to be noticed. Those people deserve the hate that comes their way, whether straight, gay or asexual.

Aerethan wrote:

dogma wrote:To be fair, we don't really know what she was being asked to "tone down" from. Being overtly sexual, regardless of what the nature of it is, can get you bullied.

Granted homosexuals definitely have it worse in the vast majority of places.

I know plenty of gay people who blend in quite nicely with society without issue, and who are openly gay. They don't dress flamboyantly, they don't talk with made up lisps. They act normal, and are treated normal.

Pro tip: If you act like Big Gay Al, you WILL get gak for it.

You think Anderson Cooper runs around screaming like a school girl and saying the word "fabulous" at everything? No. He acts normal, and people treat him normal.

Being gay has feth all to do with being annoying. Some people want attention, negative or not, so they act out to be noticed. Those people deserve the hate that comes their way, whether straight, gay or asexual.

No matter how annoying she was being, she would not deserve death. The attack could have crippled her or killed her. If the school has not been following procedure, then they need to be reprimanded. They are endangering their students.

Happygrunt wrote:

Aerethan wrote:

dogma wrote:To be fair, we don't really know what she was being asked to "tone down" from. Being overtly sexual, regardless of what the nature of it is, can get you bullied.

Granted homosexuals definitely have it worse in the vast majority of places.

I know plenty of gay people who blend in quite nicely with society without issue, and who are openly gay. They don't dress flamboyantly, they don't talk with made up lisps. They act normal, and are treated normal.

Pro tip: If you act like Big Gay Al, you WILL get gak for it.

You think Anderson Cooper runs around screaming like a school girl and saying the word "fabulous" at everything? No. He acts normal, and people treat him normal.

Being gay has feth all to do with being annoying. Some people want attention, negative or not, so they act out to be noticed. Those people deserve the hate that comes their way, whether straight, gay or asexual.

No matter how annoying she was being, she would not deserve death. The attack could have crippled her or killed her. If the school has not been following procedure, then they need to be reprimanded. They are endangering their students.

I'm not arguing that at all. No violence against children should be tolerated.

I'm just telling kids to not put targets on their backs. No one should die over trying to be yourself in high school. Save it for real life.

Aerethan wrote:

dogma wrote:To be fair, we don't really know what she was being asked to "tone down" from. Being overtly sexual, regardless of what the nature of it is, can get you bullied.

Granted homosexuals definitely have it worse in the vast majority of places.

I know plenty of gay people who blend in quite nicely with society without issue, and who are openly gay. They don't dress flamboyantly, they don't talk with made up lisps. They act normal, and are treated normal.

Pro tip: If you act like Big Gay Al, you WILL get gak for it.

You think Anderson Cooper runs around screaming like a school girl and saying the word "fabulous" at everything? No. He acts normal, and people treat him normal.

Being gay has feth all to do with being annoying. Some people want attention, negative or not, so they act out to be noticed. Those people deserve the hate that comes their way, whether straight, gay or asexual.

There is a difference between being annoyed and attempting to fething MURDER SOMEONE

Aerethan wrote:
Being gay has feth all to do with being annoying. Some people want attention, negative or not, so they act out to be noticed. Those people deserve the hate that comes their way, whether straight, gay or asexual.

I don't think that's true, but I do think a sort of reminder to understand your surroundings is an important part of growing up; preferably not by way of skull fractures. The girl that assaulted the victim should have been disciplined, but we don't know what the victim was doing, either at the time or historically, so we can't pass absolute judgment on the school for telling her to tone it down.

She didn't deserve the assault, but she may have been able to take steps to protect herself as well.

It's Sweden. If they've forgotten the nordic truism of "Always Carry Yer Axe" then they deserve to be assaulted with pliers. I mean, really, wasn't she asking for it by not carrying an axe?

The search "Swedish girl with axe." returns very mixed results.

That's because they've lost touch with their roots.

Funnily enough most of the Swedish girls that came up were bleached blondes.

Snap.

Ah yes, the OT blame the victim game. And it's only been like... 0 days since the last topic to bring this up.

Hey you lot know Im gay friendly and all for gay rights, but I have to play devils advocate here with you guys all jumping on the "sue the school!" bandwagon.

At the end of the day, kids are mother fethers! I am not attempting to justify the awful assault, and the plier wielder should of course be suspended of something, but I was a little bastard when I was 13, most people are, we are pack animals and when you are a kid you want to fit in so you act like the majority, when I was in high school if you were different, you got bullied. Now I am not saying its not a sad state of affairs, or that it is sad that children...er.. act like children?

But is it really that bad for the school to do a little bit of victim blaming?

It makes no mention of the girls appearence or anything, but if she was told to "tone down" her sexuality, surely she is being a bit weird? How is it you can tell she is a lesbian by just looking at her? Is she going to school with a skin head, some buster browns and a "I love tits" shirt on? There is nothing at all wrong with that of course, but if you think what's fine in your twenties is fine in high school, you are very naive, didn't her parents tell her its fine to be gay but it might cause her some gak if you walks around school looking like the bass player from the 4 non blondes?!

If I was a teacher and this type of thing was happening to a male student, then I would say to the kid "Listen kid, none of it matters when you grow up so try not to get upset, there is nothing at all wrong with being gay, but children are childish, and because you are different they WILL pick on it and single you out.. so could you not try to just be a little bit less aggressively homo? You know.. maybe not wear the eye liner and the ass-less chaps to class?"

So friends.. despite me feeling bad for the girl, until we know exactly what it is that she does that makes her "visibly lesbian" I must blame the parents for letting her go to school dressed so, and by definition......

mattyrm wrote:Hey you lot know Im gay friendly and all for gay rights, but I have to play devils advocate here with you guys all jumping on the "sue the school!" bandwagon.

At the end of the day, kids are mother fethers! I am not attempting to justify the awful assault, and the plier wielder should of course be suspended of something, but I was a little bastard when I was 13, most people are, we are pack animals and when you are a kid you want to fit in so you act like the majority, when I was in high school if you were different, you got bullied. Now I am not saying its not a sad state of affairs, or that it is sad that children...er.. act like children?

But is it really that bad for the school to do a little bit of victim blaming?

It makes no mention of the girls appearence or anything, but if she was told to "tone down" her sexuality, surely she is being a bit weird? How is it you can tell she is a lesbian by just looking at her? Is she going to school with a skin head, some buster browns and a "I love tits" shirt on? There is nothing at all wrong with that of course, but if you think what's fine in your twenties is fine in high school, you are very naive, didn't her parents tell her its fine to be gay but it might cause her some gak if you walks around school looking like the bass player from the 4 non blondes?!

If I was a teacher and this type of thing was happening to a male student, then I would say to the kid "Listen kid, none of it matters when you grow up so try not to get upset, there is nothing at all wrong with being gay, but children are childish, and because you are different they WILL pick on it and single you out.. so could you not try to just be a little bit less aggressively homo? You know.. maybe not wear the eye liner and the ass-less chaps to class?"

So friends.. despite me feeling bad for the girl, until we know exactly what it is that she does that makes her "visibly lesbian" I must blame the parents for letting her go to school dressed so, and by definition......

It doesn't matter if you're visibly anything. Assault is assault. Last time I checked, fracturing someone's skull is illegal, even in Viking Sweden.
I can just imagine telling black kids in immediate post-segregation Arkansas, "Awe, why didn't you fight back? Have you ever though about being a little less... African? Wearing white face paint, maybe?"

deathholydeath wrote:

It doesn't matter if you're visibly anything. Assault is assault. Last time I checked, fracturing someone's skull is illegal, even in Viking Sweden.
I can just imagine telling black kids in immediate post-segregation Arkansas, "Awe, why didn't you fight back? Have you ever though about being a little less... African? Wearing white face paint, maybe?"

What the feth have black kids got to do with anything? There were a few black kids in my high school, I never once heard them get racially abused. They would have got some gak if they rocked up to school looking like boy george though!

I didn't say it wasn't assault either. I simply said that the girls parents and the school aren't being ridiculous if they say "being gay is fine and when you are grown up you can dress however you wish, but kids are horrible, so try not to stand out so much"

Simple common sense.

mattyrm wrote:

deathholydeath wrote:

It doesn't matter if you're visibly anything. Assault is assault. Last time I checked, fracturing someone's skull is illegal, even in Viking Sweden.
I can just imagine telling black kids in immediate post-segregation Arkansas, "Awe, why didn't you fight back? Have you ever though about being a little less... African? Wearing white face paint, maybe?"

What the feth have black kids got to do with anything? There were a few black kids in my high school, I never once heard them get racially abused. They would have got some gak if they rocked up to school looking like boy george though!

I didn't say it wasn't assault either. I simply said that the girls parents and the school aren't being ridiculous if they say "being gay is fine and when you are grown up you can dress however you wish, but kids are horrible, so try not to stand out so much"

Simple common sense.

I think you missed the point. Might have something to do with you living in the U.K. though. What I meant: Schools have a responsibility to protect the children under their aegis whether those children are flamboyant or not. Dressing like Boy George doesn't mean you deserve a concussion followed by the authorities telling you to "dial back the gay a bit." while not prosecuting the psychopath that bashed your head in.
To make it clear, children should be able to dress however they wish within the constraints of the laws of their country without fear of persecution. And if they are subject to persecution, the bullies should be punished. Anything less than full protection and enforcement of rights courts tragedy and disaster.

There's so much wrong with this thread I don't even know where to begin.

Surtur wrote:There's so much wrong with this thread I don't even know where to begin.

Anywhere you like. Dakkadakka OT is here all day and night.

deathholydeath wrote:

mattyrm wrote:

deathholydeath wrote:

It doesn't matter if you're visibly anything. Assault is assault. Last time I checked, fracturing someone's skull is illegal, even in Viking Sweden.
I can just imagine telling black kids in immediate post-segregation Arkansas, "Awe, why didn't you fight back? Have you ever though about being a little less... African? Wearing white face paint, maybe?"

What the feth have black kids got to do with anything? There were a few black kids in my high school, I never once heard them get racially abused. They would have got some gak if they rocked up to school looking like boy george though!

I didn't say it wasn't assault either. I simply said that the girls parents and the school aren't being ridiculous if they say "being gay is fine and when you are grown up you can dress however you wish, but kids are horrible, so try not to stand out so much"

Simple common sense.

I think you missed the point. Might have something to do with you living in the U.K. though. What I meant: Schools have a responsibility to protect the children under their aegis whether those children are flamboyant or not. Dressing like Boy George doesn't mean you deserve a concussion followed by the authorities telling you to "dial back the gay a bit." while not prosecuting the psychopath that bashed your head in.
To make it clear, children should be able to dress however they wish within the constraints of the laws of their country without fear of persecution. And if they are subject to persecution, the bullies should be punished. Anything less than full protection and enforcement of rights courts tragedy and disaster.

And to be completely fair your armchair psychology deducing that the person that did this was a psychopath is pretty specious. I mean, for all we know the pliers wielder had her pet turtle murdered by this rage filled hussy who then, in a completely unrelated newsbit turned out to be gay; so she took her love for little Leonardo and fury at a system that ignored the callous murder of her only friend in the world - her pet turtle, and used that rage to gain righteous vengeance on the slayer of her little shelled chum.

My point, I guess, is let us not invent facts for stories to support our own prejudices, even if they are super amusing. What if the gay chick was a super bitch and the other girl got fed up and pliered her stupid face? Is it more or less of a crime because her victim was gay? What if the pliers chick was gay too? Would that be worse or better? Or could we all just shut the feth up and go on with our lives and let people handle their own gak?