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I was planning on taking Typhoons, but found out that BT Typhoons got nerfed. So I have a list that totals 2217pts, that I need to bring up to 2500.

o, what should I use the points on?

HQ
Marshal w/TDA, SS, LC, Adamantine Mantle - 170

Terminator Command Squad w/4 Terminators, 2 Assault Cannons, TH - 212

Emperors Champion w/ATW - 110

ELITES
5 Terminators w/2 Cyclones, TH - 265

5 Terminators w/2 Cyclones, TH - 265

Techmarine w/Servo-Harness - 105

TROOPS
5 Man Crusader w/Lascannon, Rhino - 145

5 Man Crusader w/Lascannon, Rhino - 145

5 Man Crusader w/Lascannon - 95

5 Man Crusader w/Lascannon - 95

FAST ATTACK

2 Attack Bikes w/MM - 130

HEAVY SUPPORT
Vindicator w/POTMS, EA - 160

Vindicator w/POTMS, EA - 160

Vindicator w/POTMS, EA - 160

I'm very dubious as to whether those Typhoons were nerfed or not. The appendix at the back of the 6th edition book lists all of the weapons in the game, and it doesn't list the Typhoon Multiple Missile Launcher at all, it only lists the Typhoon Missile Launcher. If it was supposed to go back to the old way, I'd suspect they would have listed the stats in the BRB.

So they werent nerfed? They still shoot 2 str8, or 2 str4 blast?

Yep. Check the FAQ.

But the new FAQ doesnt say anything about Typhoons

I think he means w/ Haul points they will die alot faster. I used to run 6 Landspeeders but i doubt ill run any now

Would this be good? And I still have 38pts

HQ
Marshal w/TDA, SS, LC, Adamantine Mantle - 170

Terminator Command Squad w/4 Terminators, 2 Assault Cannons, TH - 212

Emperors Champion w/ATW - 110

ELITES
5 Terminators w/2 Cyclones, TH - 265

5 Terminators w/2 Cyclones, TH - 265

Techmarine w/Servo-Harness - 105

TROOPS
5 Man Crusader w/Lascannon, PG, Rhino - 150

5 Man Crusader w/Lascannon, PG, Rhino - 150

5 Man Crusader w/Lascannon, PG - 100

5 Man Crusader w/Lascannon, PG - 100

5 Man Crusader w/Lascannon - 95

FAST ATTACK

2 Attack Bikes w/MM - 130

2 Attack Bikes w/MM - 130

HEAVY SUPPORT
Vindicator w/POTMS, EA - 160

Vindicator w/POTMS, EA - 160

Vindicator w/POTMS, EA - 160

I've only just come to realise that people believe that the Land Speeder typhoons have been nurfed.

I can understand if people believe that as it is not stated in the FAQ it mean they now use the weapon rules stated in the BT codex. However I think Atomsmasher is correct, the fact that the weapon is now written with its correct stats at the back of 6th ed may have over-written the FAQ.

Odinson

No thats right i believe the new weapons ccome from the BRB but also Landspeeder only have what 2 HP? 3 at most basically any weapon could hurt them.

Marshall Ragnar: I know CML and TH where good in 5th but try just Assault cannons no tankhunters. use them free pointsto buff upyour techmarine and get some servitors so yuo basicall can repair for free. Your crusader squads w/ LC, PG are 101 points so thats 5 points you have to use. attack bikes are 50 pts w/ the MM 10pts upgrade if im not mistaken. You can get rid of the TH on all your units its not that great (if i read it correctly) other than that list looks pretty good only suggestion grab some terrain w/ a weapon to take out flyers. GL

I would throw a SS on your techmarine, and then you can use him as a shield for any one of your squads. the "look out sir!" will make sure that the squad is protected very well with that.

Otherwise I Would look at taking a LR, stash a troop chice in there or something.

OR since you are over 2k points, take some dreadnoughts, cause you can open a second force org chart.

I think he is using his techmarine to repair the vindis not just for another model. I might b worng

The issue is that the DA FAQ has the typhoon stats. The CML stats feature in the BT FAQ.
Then the rulebook states the codex over rules the rulebook, though you should check at the back for hull points.
All this implies their guns have been nerfed.

I would go for another troop choice. I think scoring units are really important now.

I would bring more cyclones as termies are now awesome and you can. Either another command squad which is the cheapest way and means you keep the techmarine, or lose the techmarine.

Attack biker frustrate me as they cost so much more than other codices. The thing is I think they are pretty great now in this edition and may help you out a lot.

Final point would be in 2500 pt army you have no antiflyer threat. Not sure how to fit this in or whether it is important.

I would switch and take more assault cannons but there isnt time to order more and switch them over. So how about this? And I still have 5pts

HQ
Marshal w/TDA, SS, LC, Adamantine Mantle - 170

Terminator Command Squad w/4 Terminators, 2 Assault Cannons, TH, Sgt w/SS, Power Ax - 222

Emperors Champion w/ATW - 110

ELITES
5 Terminators w/2 Cyclones, TH - 265

5 Terminators w/2 Cyclones, TH - 265

Techmarine w/Servo-Harness, Bolt Pistol, SS - 116

TROOPS
5 Man Crusader w/Lascannon, PG, Rhino, Search Light - 152

5 Man Crusader w/Lascannon, PG, Rhino, Search Light - 152

5 Man Crusader w/Lascannon, PG - 101

5 Man Crusader w/Lascannon, PG - 101

5 Man Crusader w/Lascannon, PG - 101

FAST ATTACK

2 Attack Bikes w/MM - 130

2 Attack Bikes w/MM - 130

HEAVY SUPPORT
Vindicator w/POTMS, EA - 160

Vindicator w/POTMS, EA - 160

Vindicator w/POTMS, EA - 160

Terminator Command Squad w/4 Terminators, 2 Assault Cannons, TH, Sgt w/SS, Power Ax - 222

couple of things to note here:

1. you have to pay for TH on the marshal.
2. SS are in the Errata and are 15pts now, not 10pts.

Only 8 points, but any good tournament administrator is gonna pick up on it.

Techmarine w/Servo-Harness, Bolt Pistol, SS - 116

Same issue with the SS.

P.S. Odinson

My brothers, it is actually very easy to provide this proof to your TO. I already did this with mine and the entire club is fine with it. All the FAQs are on the GW site itself, which cannot be faked. You don't need to translate them either, as the entries look something like this:

Page 48 – Lance-missiles Typhoon
Remplacez “48 ps 5 5 Lourde 1, petit gab. d’expl., jumelés”
par
“(Frag) 48 ps 4 6 Lourde 2, Explosion
(Antichar) 48 ps 8 3 Lourde 2”


(That's the French version: http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m2420374a_FAQ_Black_Templars_6%C3%A9d_version_1_0_-_juillet_2012)

Balian of Terra(http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/30/461347.page)

I had placed a very arrogant statement here about how you are wrong Odinson, But I would like to regress and apologize to you.
After reading the above it turns out we have proof that our typhoon's Ml hasn't been nerfed and this is in fact an oversight.

Marshall Ragnar wrote:

HQ
Marshal w/TDA, SS, LC, Adamantine Mantle - 170

Terminator Command Squad w/4 Terminators, 2 Assault Cannons, TH, Sgt w/SS, Power Ax - 222

Emperors Champion w/ATW - 110

ELITES
5 Terminators w/2 Cyclones, TH - 265

5 Terminators w/2 Cyclones, TH - 265

Techmarine w/Servo-Harness, Bolt Pistol, SS - 116

TROOPS
5 Man Crusader w/Lascannon, PG, Rhino, Search Light - 152

5 Man Crusader w/Lascannon, PG, Rhino, Search Light - 152

5 Man Crusader w/Lascannon, PG - 101

5 Man Crusader w/Lascannon, PG - 101

5 Man Crusader w/Lascannon, PG - 101

FAST ATTACK

2 Attack Bikes w/MM - 130

2 Attack Bikes w/MM - 130

HEAVY SUPPORT
Vindicator w/POTMS, EA - 160

Vindicator w/POTMS, EA - 160

Vindicator w/POTMS, EA - 160

Would it be a good or bad idea to swap the terminators for Deathwing termies? I would lose i special weapon per
squad, but include some cc weapons and make them scoring. Good or bad idea?

On deathwing:
I would drop pod the assault cannons to be in range, as such the deathwing would be a good idea to get them into play.
They'll give you belial to make a squad fearless, they can deathwing assault any of your termy armour ICs.

On gunline:
I would go 18 typhoons, at 2500 points you see too much cheese not to go to the extreme.