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**Wardragoon**

Yes I know there have been threads like this before, but with the new allied FOC its an option to jack up the point cost even more. So now thats out of the way I want to see how many points everyone can rack up for an army, for those who arent familiar with the new FOC here it is
Primary Detachment: 2-4 HQs, 0-6 Elites, 4-12 Troops, 0-6 Fast Attacks, 0-6 Heavy Support and 0-2 Fortifications.
Optional Allied Detachment: 2 HQ, 0-2 Elites, 2-4 Troops, 0-2 Fast Attack, 0-2 Heavy Support.
EDIT: Please be fairly exact
EDIT2: Since I am hurr durr, No more CSM Lesser Daemons

**valace2**

Stick Grey knights and Space wolves together that would the most expensive pairing as Logan an draigo make paladins and wolf guard troops. The space wolves might edge out the grey knight because wolf guard can take land raiders as a dedicated transport, paladins can spend a lot of points on upgrades though. 120 paladins base cost is 6,600 points. Before upgrades the cost of 120 wolf guard terminators an their 6 transport raiders you are looking at around 6800 points, so it would come down to the FA slot, grey knights can really juice their interceptors up even getting them close to 400 points, they are both pretty even with raiders in the heavy slot.

**GreyHamster**

I think it's still hard to beat the Astorath army. Twelve 30 strong DC with 2x TH and jump packs. 360 95point models, plus Lemartes. 34570 before adding things outside Troops and HQ. VV can be made 85 points apiece without JPs. Take 60 of those and give them all decked out LRs. quad lascannon double PF devs, 325 a squad. Each with a fully decked out LR at 296/ea. 10x chainfist 2x cyclone terminators at 510 a squad with 296 point LRs. Add Dante, Sanguinor, and Mephiston. Four double TH/meltabomb/standard Honour Guard with Blood Champions (410, 425 for chapter banner) and a land raider each. 53582 before fortifications and allies.

Edited for better choices.

**Wardragoon**

Alright, can you guys be more exact?

**Von Chogg**

Wardragoon wrote:Yes I know there have been threads like this before, but with the new allied FOC its an option to jack up the point cost even more. So now thats out of the way I want to see how many points everyone can rack up for an army, for those who arent familiar with the new FOC here it is

EDIT: Please be fairly exact

Uh, can someone explain that chart to me, the wording doesn't make much sense to me.

But a combo of draigowing and deathcompany maxed out xD

Von Chogg

**EnormousName**

Chaos lord

5x CSM

5x CSM

rest of the points to lesser daemons.

**Ribon Fox**

Using the new FoC I think you'll find its the Guard that will have the most expensive list if you were to max it out.
4 ccs (plasma and all the body guards and advisors), 6 elites (maxed out storm troopers), 6 FA (18 fully decked out Vendettas), 12 troops ( 12 platoons maxed out with 60 HWS las-cannon teams, 24 plasma SWS, 600 infantry dudes with 60 plasmaguns 68 commissars and 60 las-cannons) and 6 HS (that would be 18 LRBT executioners with plasma sponsons and all the upgrades).
All in all you'd be looking at close to 100,000pts on the table...assuming you could even find a table that could fit all that awesomeness on

**Nmh**

EnormousName wrote:Chaos lord

5x CSM

5x CSM

rest of the points to lesser daemons.

QFT, you can have infinite Lesser Daemon squads.

**Ovion**

Von Chogg wrote:
Wardragoon wrote:Yes I know there have been threads like this before, but with the new allied FOC its an option to jack up the point cost even more. So now thats out of the way I want to see how many points everyone can rack up for an army, for those who arent familiar with the new FOC here it is

EDIT: Please be fairly exact

Uh, can someone explain that chart to me, the wording doesn't make much sense to me.

But a combo of draigowing and deathcompany maxed out xD

Von Chogg

Maybe I should remake this chart... ( I made this originally by modifying one I made when it was all rumours. )

Basically, at Zero to 1999 points, you get 1 Mandatory Primary Detachament of 1-2 HQs, 0-3 Elites, 2-6 Troops, 0-3 Fast Attacks, 0-3 Heavy Support and 0-1 Fortifications.
With that you get an optional Allied Detachment of 1 HQ, 0-1 Elites, 1-2 Troops, 0-1 Fast Attack, 0-1 Heavy Support.

THEN at 2000 points and higher, you get an optional Additional Primary Detachment, this must be the same army as your first one, and grants you an extra 1-2 HQs, 0-3 Elites, 2-6 Troops, 0-3 Fast Attacks, 0-3 Heavy Support and 0-1 Fortifications.

If you take the second primary detachment (so 2 HQ + 4 Troops), it allows you take an extra Allied Detachment, which again, must be the same force as the original allied detachment and grants an extra 1 HQ, 0-1 Elites, 1-2 Troops, 0-1 Fast Attack, 0-1 Heavy Support.

OR, to put it another way, at any points level you can use this chart:
Primary Detachment: 1-2 HQs, 0-3 Elites, 2-6 Troops, 0-3 Fast Attacks, 0-3 Heavy Support and 0-1 Fortifications.
Optional Allied Detachment: 1 HQ, 0-1 Elites, 1-2 Troops, 0-1 Fast Attack, 0-1 Heavy Support.

Then at 2000pts or higher, you can choose to use this chart instead:
Primary Detachment: 2-4 HQs, 0-6 Elites, 4-12 Troops, 0-6 Fast Attacks, 0-6 Heavy Support and 0-2 Fortifications.
Optional Allied Detachment: 2 HQ, 0-2 Elites, 2-4 Troops, 0-2 Fast Attack, 0-2 Heavy Support.

*goes to remake his charts*

**AlmightyWalrus**

Nmh wrote:
EnormousName wrote:Chaos lord

5x CSM

5x CSM

rest of the points to lesser daemons.

QFT, you can have infinite Lesser Daemon squads.

So, anyone who can ally with CSM now tie for most expensive list?

**Wardragoon**

Ovion wrote:
Von Chogg wrote:
Wardragoon wrote:Yes I know there have been threads like this before, but with the new allied FOC its an option to jack up the point cost even more. So now thats out of the way I want to see how many points everyone can rack up for an army, for those who arent familiar with the new FOC here it is

EDIT: Please be fairly exact

Uh, can someone explain that chart to me, the wording doesn't make much sense to me.

But a combo of draigowing and deathcompany maxed out xD

Von Chogg

Maybe I should remake this chart... ( I made this originally by modifying one I made when it was all rumours. )

Basically, at Zero to 1999 points, you get 1 Mandatory Primary Detachament of 1-2 HQs, 0-3 Elites, 2-6 Troops, 0-3 Fast Attacks, 0-3 Heavy Support and 0-1 Fortifications.
With that you get an optional Allied Detachment of 1 HQ, 0-1 Elites, 1-2 Troops, 0-1 Fast Attack, 0-1 Heavy Support.

THEN at 2000 points and higher, you get an optional Additional Primary Detachment, this must be the same army as your first one, and grants you an extra 1-2 HQs, 0-3 Elites, 2-6 Troops, 0-3 Fast Attacks, 0-3 Heavy Support and 0-1 Fortifications.

If you take the second primary detachment (so 2 HQ + 4 Troops), it allows you take an extra Allied Detachment, which again, must be the same force as the original allied detachment and grants an extra 1 HQ, 0-1 Elites, 1-2 Troops, 0-1 Fast Attack, 0-1 Heavy Support.

OR, to put it another way, at any points level you can use this chart:
Primary Detachment: 1-2 HQs, 0-3 Elites, 2-6 Troops, 0-3 Fast Attacks, 0-3 Heavy Support and 0-1 Fortifications.
Optional Allied Detachment: 1 HQ, 0-1 Elites, 1-2 Troops, 0-1 Fast Attack, 0-1 Heavy Support.

Then at 2000pts or higher, you can choose to use this chart instead:
Primary Detachment: 2-4 HQs, 0-6 Elites, 4-12 Troops, 0-6 Fast Attacks, 0-6 Heavy Support and 0-2 Fortifications.
Optional Allied Detachment: 2 HQ, 0-2 Elites, 2-4 Troops, 0-2 Fast Attack, 0-2 Heavy Support.

*goes to remake his charts*

Congrats, your image showed up on Google search, first page XD, I have changed the FOC to what it should be, thanks for giving me a heads up.

**Ovion**

Have updated the images - here you go:

**Grey Templar**

The all DC list wins, again.

Thats over 36000 points in troops alone.

**Happygrunt**

Grey Templar wrote:The all DC list wins, again.

Thats over 36000 points in troops alone.

You are right, I don't know why these threads keep coming up.

CSM wins first because of infinite lesser daemons, then BA for maxed DC (That is 30 strong with two thunder hammers and jump packs each), then guard for being guard. Unless a new codex comes out with a more expensive AND larger unit than DC, this list won't change.

**Nmh**

@AlmightyWalrus Yes anybody who can ally with CSM have infinite pts.

@Grey Templar Wrong CSM since the current codex could technically have infinite pts.

**Grey Templar**

In these threads, we've never counted units that don't fill FoC slots or have limits on the number of units.

**Nmh**

Blood Angels.
HQ- 3590 4Hq + honerguard full kitted out.
Elite- 801*6, Termie squad+ ML and all with chain fist,LR =4806
Troop- 2850*12 DC Jump pack+2 TH and lemartes (150) = 34350
Fast- 1100*6 Vanguard Vet,2TH+melta bombs, LR+ upgrades =6600
Heavy- 621*6 Devs squad +LR, devs with LC and over most expensive stuff. = 3726
All= 53072

According to an earlier post by someone you can get 100,000ish with guard.

Edited: from early post.

**Wardragoon**

Alright, lets add no Lesser Daemons, I honestly did not remember they could have infinite lesser Daemons.

And the reason I put this thread up is that with the new ally rule it may change things

**Nmh**

@ Wardragon No it would change anything, the army which can fit the most points in would then just take the second most thus it has the top two with the larger in the Primary detachment. The second army would have less points in the primary detachments so it wouldn't matter.

**Wardragoon**

Nmh wrote:@ Wardragon No it would change anything, the army which can fit the most points in would then just take the second most thus it has the top two with the larger in the Primary detachment. The second army would have less points in the primary detachments so it wouldn't matter.

Well considering the new FOC allows for pretty much double the troops once you get past 2000...

**motyak**

Nmh wrote:Blood Angels.
HQ- 3590 4Hq + honerguard full kitted out.
Elite- 801*6, Termie squad+ ML and all with chain fist,LR =4806
Troop- 2850*12 DC Jump pack+2 TH and lemartes (150) = 34350
Fast- 1100*6 Vanguard Vet,2TH+melta bombs, LR+ upgrades =6600
Heavy- 621*6 Devs squad +LR, devs with LC and over most expensive stuff. = 3726
All= 53072

According to an earlier post by someone you can get 100,000ish with guard.

Edited: from early post.

Not really, guard when I ran the points up got to 49303...

Edit: But that was before I did the fortifications. My brother has the big rule book on the other side of the room and....ehhh......

**Wardragoon**

motyak wrote:
Nmh wrote:Blood Angels.
HQ- 3590 4Hq + honerguard full kitted out.
Elite- 801*6, Termie squad+ ML and all with chain fist,LR =4806
Troop- 2850*12 DC Jump pack+2 TH and lemartes (150) = 34350
Fast- 1100*6 Vanguard Vet,2TH+melta bombs, LR+ upgrades =6600
Heavy- 621*6 Devs squad +LR, devs with LC and over most expensive stuff. = 3726
All= 53072

According to an earlier post by someone you can get 100,000ish with guard.

Edited: from early post.

Not really, guard when I ran the points up got to 49303...

Is that with the new FOC?

**motyak**

Wardragoon wrote:
motyak wrote:
Nmh wrote:Blood Angels.
HQ- 3590 4Hq + honerguard full kitted out.
Elite- 801*6, Termie squad+ ML and all with chain fist,LR =4806
Troop- 2850*12 DC Jump pack+2 TH and lemartes (150) = 34350
Fast- 1100*6 Vanguard Vet,2TH+melta bombs, LR+ upgrades =6600
Heavy- 621*6 Devs squad +LR, devs with LC and over most expensive stuff. = 3726
All= 53072

According to an earlier post by someone you can get 100,000ish with guard.

Edited: from early post.

Not really, guard when I ran the points up got to 49308...

Is that with the new FOC?

Thats with 4 CCS (2050), 6 Ogryn units (3180). 2 Techpriests (370), 12 platoons (34190), 6 hellhound squadrons (3888), 6 LR squadrons (5630)

Edit: If you were to include allies, add approximately 15,000 on for a BA DC allied group (with sanguinor and VV and Devestators as well). I think it come to about 15,000 or 16000

**EnormousName**

Wardragoon wrote:Alright, lets add no Lesser Daemons, I honestly did not remember they could have infinite lesser Daemons.

And the reason I put this thread up is that with the new ally rule it may change things

You dare deny my fun?

**Wardragoon**

EnormousName wrote:
Wardragoon wrote:Alright, lets add no Lesser Daemons, I honestly did not remember they could have infinite lesser Daemons.

And the reason I put this thread up is that with the new ally rule it may change things

You dare deny my fun?

Yes finntroll I do

**EnormousName**

Wardragoon wrote:
EnormousName wrote:
Wardragoon wrote:Alright, lets add no Lesser Daemons, I honestly did not remember they could have infinite lesser Daemons.

And the reason I put this thread up is that with the new ally rule it may change things

You dare deny my fun?

Yes finntroll I do

That's no fun you know?

**rustproof**

now for the grand prize Toyota how much would the top tier point limit armys translate into £/$..

**Wardragoon**

rustproof wrote:now for the grand prize Toyota how much would the top tier point limit armys translate into £/$..

Oh great...I think my wallet just ran off at the thought of how much a massive army would cost.

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EnormousName wrote:
Wardragoon wrote:
EnormousName wrote:
Wardragoon wrote:Alright, lets add no Lesser Daemons, I honestly did not remember they could have infinite lesser Daemons.

And the reason I put this thread up is that with the new ally rule it may change things

You dare deny my fun?

Yes finntroll I do

That's no fun you know?

Haha its no fun, but lesser Daemons kind of drive the point cost up to as many models as GW has made.

**EnormousName**

rustproof wrote:now for the grand prize Toyota how much would the top tier point limit armys translate into £/$..

If you use lesser daemons...

**Grey Templar**

Lets see, Death Company.

Astorath $21.50

3 Librarians $48+$8.25(jump packs)

4 Honor Guard squads $140

72 boxes of Death Company $2,376

12 boxes of Terminators $600

12 boxes of Vanguard Vets $540

6 Stormravens $495

2 Fortresses of Redemption $231

And the grand total is $4,459.75

So about as much as a used car thats in decent shape.