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I searches quickly on the forum but found nothing answering my questions but since i'm leaving in a short while for tonight's game let me check fast!

#1) Monstrous creatures don't have the +2D6 armor pen anymore right?

#2) MC now have +1 on damage table because it as smash EVEN if it does not use the smash right? (yes/no)

#3) When it use the smash rule it halve it's attack BUT do we round* up or down?

* did not found anything in the rulebook clearly stating about rounding down or up when we need to!

Correct, yes, and it's at the beginning of the book - up.

1 Yes, but Smash and AP 2 to compensate

2 Yes because it gives AP2 attacks (see above).

3 Up. Basic Maths. 5/2= 2.5. And since you need to round, 0.5 is rounded to 1, making 3.

1. Correct.
2. Correct.
3. Page 5, "Dividing To Conquer"

Happyjew wrote:
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3. Page 5, "Dividing To Conquer"

Thank you. that one sliped by unnoticed ;()

Remember you halve your attacks characteristic, but that means the +1A for charging is added AFTER halving. So if you have A4 on your profile, charge, and Smash, you'll get 3.

Deadshot wrote:3 Up. Basic Maths. 5/2= 2.5. And since you need to round, 0.5 is rounded to 1, making 3.

You always round up, so "Basic Maths" only works some of the time.

Like if you need to know what 25% of a 9 man squad is, "Basic Maths" rounds that to 2 (2.25) models, where the game rounds to 3 models

DeathReaper wrote:

Deadshot wrote:3 Up. Basic Maths. 5/2= 2.5. And since you need to round, 0.5 is rounded to 1, making 3.

You always round up, so "Basic Maths" only works some of the time.

Like if you need to know what 25% of a 9 man squad is, "Basic Maths" rounds that to 2 (2.25) models, where the game rounds to 3 models

This I disagree with as you don't have to be exactly at 25%. Its either more than or less than equal to 25%. 3/9 = 33.33% 2/9=22.22%

tdwg83 wrote:

DeathReaper wrote:

Deadshot wrote:3 Up. Basic Maths. 5/2= 2.5. And since you need to round, 0.5 is rounded to 1, making 3.

You always round up, so "Basic Maths" only works some of the time.

Like if you need to know what 25% of a 9 man squad is, "Basic Maths" rounds that to 2 (2.25) models, where the game rounds to 3 models

This I disagree with as you don't have to be exactly at 25%. Its either more than or less than equal to 25%. 3/9 = 33.33% 2/9=22.22%

Page 5 Disagrees with you.

Re-read "Dividing To Conquer" P.5, Left Column, 4th (Last) Sentence.

The best part is due to p.5 any bonus attacks are untouched when you halve for smash so warpspeed becomes a great spell for tyrants.

DeathReaper wrote:

tdwg83 wrote:

DeathReaper wrote:

Deadshot wrote:3 Up. Basic Maths. 5/2= 2.5. And since you need to round, 0.5 is rounded to 1, making 3.

You always round up, so "Basic Maths" only works some of the time.

Like if you need to know what 25% of a 9 man squad is, "Basic Maths" rounds that to 2 (2.25) models, where the game rounds to 3 models

This I disagree with as you don't have to be exactly at 25%. Its either more than or less than equal to 25%. 3/9 = 33.33% 2/9=22.22%

Page 5 Disagrees with you.

Re-read "Dividing To Conquer" P.5, Left Column, 4th (Last) Sentence.

Okay, read the rule. However in cases where a range is given in a rule such as 25% or more , then I would expcet a straight calculation to apply. When calculting for a hard number such as half a unit, third, 25% or what have you, this makes sense. Of course the rules that I see (moral and regrouping) using precentages are worded in so that it is "AT least 25%" or 25% or more so that the rounding rule works. I would dread a rule that says 25% or less......

Hasn't this thread gone far beyond the original topic?