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http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-0725-pot-ban-20120725,0,3171935.story


L.A. City Council bans medical marijuana dispensaries
L.A. will order all 762 medical pot dispensaries to close immediately, but City Council also asks staff to draw up a measure allowing original shops to stay open.

In what could be a turning point in the city's seemingly unending battle to regulate the distribution of medical marijuana, the Los Angeles City Council voted unanimously Tuesday to ban all pot dispensaries, while also opening the door to possibly let some remain.

Under the ban, all of the 762 dispensaries registered in the city will be sent letters ordering them to shut down immediately. Those that don't comply may face legal action from the city.

Medical marijuana activists erupted in jeers after the decision, and police officers were called into the council chambers to quell them. Some activists threatened to sue. Others vowed to draft a ballot initiative to overturn the ban.

"We're not going to make this easy for the city of Los Angeles," said Don Duncan, California director of Americans for Safe Access.

The new ordinance will allow patients and their caregivers to grow and share marijuana in groups of three people or fewer. But activists complain that few patients have the time or skills for that, with one dispensary owner saying it costs at least $5,000 to grow the plant at home.

Councilman Jose Huizar said the ban, which received a last-minute show of support from Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and police Chief Charlie Beck, will help bring peace to neighborhoods that he says have been tormented by problem dispensaries.

"Relief is on its way," he said, noting that the ban would allow the city to close shops without having to prove that they are violating nuisance or land-use laws, as is the case now.

But the issue was clouded when the council also voted to instruct city staff to draw up a separate ordinance that would allow dozens of pot shops to remain open. Officials said that proposal, which would grant immunity to shops that existed before a 2007 moratorium on new dispensaries, could be back to the council for consideration in three months.

Huizar voted against that motion, which he said might give the public "false hope" that the ban would not be enforced.

But Councilman Dennis Zine, who voted for both the ban and the plan to allow some dispensaries to stay open, suggested that police might not enforce the ban against the city's original pot shops while the new ordinance is being drawn up.

"The officers will be given that information and we will concentrate on the other locations initially," Zine said.

However, Councilman Paul Koretz, who proposed the ordinance to allow some shops to stay open, called Tuesday's prohibition "a ban until otherwise noted."

How cities should regulate distribution of pot has been a gray area since California voters passed a 1996 initiative legalizing medical marijuana even though any sale of marijuana remains illegal under federal law. Officials are looking to an upcoming ruling by the state Supreme Court for clarity on whether cities can regulate and ban dispensaries, but that may not come for another year.

Council members said that in the meantime, something had to be done to reduce the number of dispensaries, which outnumber Starbucks coffee shops in Los Angeles two to one, according to Councilman Paul Krekorian.

Beck, who appeared before the council, said dispensaries can be hot spots for crime, citing burglaries, armed robberies and killings. In a letter to lawmakers, he said most pot shops are "for-profit businesses engaged in the sale of recreational marijuana to healthy young adults."

But those who support dispensaries say the ban will simply drive distribution of marijuana underground.

That's what Steven Lubell, an attorney who represents several of the city's original dispensaries, predicted. "Is it going to go away? No," said. "It's going to go to a darker side."

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So the shops are all banned, but some can stay.

But you can grow your own as long as you only distribute it to no more than 3 people.

Wha?


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I like the note about more head shops than Starbucks. Thats so choice.

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Stupid. Marijuana needs to be legalized it's no worse than alcohol.

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Amaya wrote:Stupid. Marijuana needs to be legalized it's no worse than alcohol.


You could argue that legalizing marijuana would just add more issues of substance abuse and DUI's.

I see no problem with distributing it for medical issues though.


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That's strictly speculation. It's so easy to acquire marijuana that I doubt there would be a massive increase in use.

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Frazzled wrote:I like the note about more head shops than Starbucks. Thats so choice.


Everyone knows that head shops only sell novelty items.

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hotsauceman1 wrote:Good idea, get rid of even MORE jobs.


Weed growing to save the economy of California?

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Mr Nobody wrote:
Amaya wrote:Stupid. Marijuana needs to be legalized it's no worse than alcohol.


You could argue that legalizing marijuana would just add more issues of substance abuse and DUI's.

I see no problem with distributing it for medical issues though.



Substance abuse and DUI involving weed would result in increased sales in the fast food market, and perhaps some traffic from people driving way too slow while they look for a Taco Bell. That's about it.

The people who get in any more trouble than that on weed would have gotten in the same trouble off weed. Those people are idiots, the weed had nothing to do with it.

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Wait I that California permits dispensaries, how does LA have the authority to overturn state law

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Amaya wrote:Stupid. Marijuana needs to be legalized it's no worse than alcohol.


A-fething-men.

I smoke one doobie at home, and I can get evicted. At the same time, my neighbour can well lit off 20 cigs a day, and no one can say anything because it's his right and personnal liberty. This pisses me off to no end.

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youbedead wrote:Wait I that California permits dispensaries, how does LA have the authority to overturn state law


I believe CA law allows for prescription use, and distribution in line with that use. L.A. apparently isn't banning use, but is stifling distribution for some reason(apparently dispensaries are tantamount to corner drug dealers).

This isn't really surprising, given the people who run L.A.

San Francisco on the other hand would likely be the opposite, making it more accessible than other areas.

Honestly, just give it another 20-30 years. By then my generation will have taken over, the vast majority of whom are pro legalization. I imagine a crap ton of policy will change when we take over. We are quite different than the people who currently run things, mostly in that we have souls and aren't all money grubbing policy whores.

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Shh, don't let the baby boomers hear you say that, they'll get mad and try to raise the social security tax again.

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Melissia wrote:Shh, don't let the baby boomers hear you say that, they'll get mad and try to raise the social security tax again.



The baby boomer generation is largely in support of legalization.

A study by the Pew Research Center asked people about medical marijuana, and overall 73 percent are in favor of legalizing it. 77 percent of 50-64 year olds support it and 63 percent of 65 and older want it legal.

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youbedead wrote:The baby boomer generation is largely in support of legalization.
I was referring to this:
Aerethan wrote:We are quite different than the people who currently run things, mostly in that we have souls and aren't all money grubbing policy whores.
Not the legalization thing.

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Aerethan wrote:
youbedead wrote:Wait I that California permits dispensaries, how does LA have the authority to overturn state law


I believe CA law allows for prescription use, and distribution in line with that use. L.A. apparently isn't banning use, but is stifling distribution for some reason(apparently dispensaries are tantamount to corner drug dealers).

This isn't really surprising, given the people who run L.A.

San Francisco on the other hand would likely be the opposite, making it more accessible than other areas.

Honestly, just give it another 20-30 years. By then my generation will have taken over, the vast majority of whom are pro legalization. I imagine a crap ton of policy will change when we take over. We are quite different than the people who currently run things, mostly in that we have souls for now and aren't all money grubbing policy whores Yet.


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Honestly, just give it another 20-30 years. By then my generation will have taken over, the vast majority of whom are pro legalization. I imagine a crap ton of policy will change when we take over. We are quite different than the people who currently run things, mostly in that we have souls and aren't all money grubbing policy whores.


The moment you have to pay income taxes you'll become money grubbing policy whores.

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Aerethan wrote:
Honestly, just give it another 20-30 years. By then my generation will have taken over, the vast majority of whom are pro legalization. I imagine a crap ton of policy will change when we take over. We are quite different than the people who currently run things, mostly in that we have souls and aren't all money grubbing policy whores.


Speak for yourself. There are plenty of people in the 25-35 age group that are soulless money grubbing policy whores, and we're the ones that will end up running things.

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California state supreme court is gonna bitchslap the city of la, not to mention the thousands upon thousands of lawsuits that will be filed. This is gonna cost them hundreds of millions in the end

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Marijuana is not the problem. They need to go bust some meth labs And balance the budget


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