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Well, in the dying days of 5th edition, I was running a captain with Artificer Armor, Storm Shield, and Relic Blade. This seemed to be the de facto biker captain (unless you went with Khan). Now, with the changes to the rules of 6th ed, I am no longer thinking a relic blade is the answer. I think my captain is about to undergo surgery and receive a brand new shiny thunderhammer. Coming in at the same cost as a relic blade, it swings a little bit later but cuts through that pesky terminator armor.

I know a power fist would probably be better, but for 5 extra points, the leader of my biker army can crack skulls in style.

Any thoughts on this?

I go with Artifier Armour, Powerfist, meltabomb and hellfire rounds.

I think the loadout that will get mentioned most is

artificer armor, bike, relic blade, storm shield.

but you can mix and match depending on what he's going to fight.

For 195 those guys are scary... MASS FIRE ASAP!

I run mine with relic blade, storm shield, and artificer armor and it works out really well. If I ever find that I need more anti ap 2 I will just make the axe he's got a power weapon. if that doesn't work then I have an excuse to make a new model. But overall I think melta and plasma will be enough ap 1/2.

@BronzeJon: That is last edition. Relic Blade captain will get punked by a single 55 points Paladin with hammer.

For OP, you can also ally with SW and get Wolf Lord on bike with fist and shield to lead your other bike squad. He got more attacks and don't waste the 4+ Iron Halo when equipped with shield.

Artie armor, PF.

SS if you have the points.

Being T5 means your only IDs by T10 weapons or force weapons.

We've been seeing Captain Bikehammer around here for years. He's good.

What about a biker command squad? How would you equip them? Im thinking of putting a bunch of lances on them so I can charge like medieval cavalry. What do you think?

Dragoon65 wrote:What about a biker command squad? How would you equip them? Im thinking of putting a bunch of lances on them so I can charge like medieval cavalry. What do you think?

lol I'd like to see that!

MatrixLurtz wrote:

Dragoon65 wrote:What about a biker command squad? How would you equip them? Im thinking of putting a bunch of lances on them so I can charge like medieval cavalry. What do you think?

lol I'd like to see that!

I ran 4X LC and SS with an apoth and khan last ed and it was scary as hell to fight, due to 6th ed, I think they just got a bit better ^.^

Mine just has a simple relic blade (which is also an axe). I think a hammer would be niffty, I wouldnt do it because I am obsessive compulsive with "wasting" models with high Initiative.

Normally I just run mine with a Powerfist , as well as Artificier armour sometimes. I had my Bike captain wreck and explode two flyers in a game.

Why a powerfist AND meltabombs? Fist is better against everything except Land Raiders, and then you might as well put the bombs on someone else, so you can use both, since meltas are always 1 attack.

Sorry, a little mistake there. I run my Bike Sergeant with Meltabombs.

I tend to run mine with Artificer armour, Thunder hammer storm shields, hellfire rounds & an auxiliary grenade launcher, its 15 points but its an extra template or str6 hit per turn

Running bike lists is expensive, so I often just go for artificer and relic blade. Storm shield is a bit pricey for improving his invul by 1, especially now 2+ armour is so much better.

I saw this the other day.
"A model fighting with this weapon does not receive +l Attack for fighting with two weapons unless both weapons have the Specialist weapon rule."

Therefore, take the following
* Lighting Claw
* Power Fist
* Artificer Armor
* Bike

Since both the claw and the fist are specialist weapons, you get the +1 attack for using two weapons, ergo you get 5 PF attacks on the charge.
As an added benefit, if you are assaulting a squad thats T4 with Armor 3+, you can instead use the LC for 5 attacks and re-rolling wounds and take advantage of the high init.
With the artificer armor, you have increased resilience to power weapons, and you are better equipped to handle duels. In duels, you can choose to use either weapons, depending on the armor of your target.

Edit : This loadout is 10 more points than a base relic blade captain, and has much more utility IMHO.

@labmouse42: I think that is a great idea. I would pop in 10 pts for digital weapon/hell fire round. Great for killing off high toughness models before wiping their floor.

If you're going to use him as a melee beatstick you really want him on a bike. Natural T5 means you won't get punked by S4 Powerfists, which is huge.

If only we can join TWC Lord to bikes it would be AWESOME.

Regarding Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, wouldn't that only work in the shooting phase? So 15 points for two shots at Str 6 AP4 per game. Hmm. Not bad actually.

leohart wrote:If only we can join TWC Lord to bikes it would be AWESOME.

Regarding Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, wouldn't that only work in the shooting phase? So 15 points for two shots at Str 6 AP4 per game. Hmm. Not bad actually.

IIRC the Auxiliary Grenade Launcher isn't a one-shot weapon, so you'd get to fire it as often as you're in range of something.

Of course. But at 12" range and an average of 6 shooting phase in a game, most combat oriented units will fire twice per game at 12" on average. (typically at Turn 2 shooting phase and Turn 4 shooting phase).

Bike, artificer armor, power axe, digital weapons, melta bombs. Solves all problems.

I liike the Power fist/ Lightning Claw biker captain over all, and on a side note if you give him a biker command squad make sure you give one of them a Storm shield as your Captain can now Look out Sir the wound to him on a 2+ and still get its benifit. also your group is now feel no pain as well.

Red

redwulfe wrote:I liike the Power fist/ Lightning Claw biker captain over all, and on a side note if you give him a biker command squad make sure you give one of them a Storm shield as your Captain can now Look out Sir the wound to him on a 2+ and still get its benifit. also your group is now feel no pain as well.

Red

A look our sir from the squad to the captain would be a 4+.
The captain can LOS to another character on a 2+.

Squad cannot look out sir to captain. They are not characters.