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Hey guys so anyway my i have been finding it quite hard to beat my friends tau with my DE. I don't have much trouble beating his daemons or eldar so it surprised me. Anyway here is my list and here is what i remember of his.

3 Reavers /Heat lance and cluster caltrops. 98 points
10 kabalite warriors /blaster and Dark lance.125
10 kabalite warriors /blaster and Dark lance.125
8 Hekatrix bloodbrides w/ Hydra gauntlets & shardnet and impaler & razorflails & haywire grenades. Syren w/ agoniser. Raider transport / enhanced aether sails & flickerfield. 195+75
Archon /agoniser and ghostplate armour & combat drugs & shadow field & djin blade. 150
3 hekatrix bloodbrides w/ razorflails& haywire grenades. Syren w/ agoniser. venom w/ splinter cannon. 100+65 points
Lelith hesperax

2x broadsides w/ smart missile systems
1x hammerhead w/ sms and railgun
crisis suit commander w/ flamer and another gun
about 18 kroot i would presume
4 squads of 12 fire warriors all with sergants and targeter thing to give them markerlights

I think that was it. Anyway by the end of the game i was wiped and he had a squad of 5 fw and a squad of 12. I think i had quite bad luck in close combat which may have attributed to the loss and i also for some reason thought that kroot were t4 and forgot to reroll to wound against them which also didn't help. His firewarriors were quite troublesome as they can easily wreck my infantry so i'm going to buy a razorwing this week to deal with them. Anyway apart from getting that razorwing is there anything else i could do to help me?
   
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Judging by his list, he is pretty troop heavy. That is actually going to make it pretty hard to use some of the nastier tricks we have up our sleeve.

Razorwings will ruin him pretty badly. If you bought one or two, he is going to just have to let you drop missiles on his units all day long.

I'm guessing that the crisis commander is tanking for the kroot? Don't get suckered in to trying to instant death him with strength 8. Just pour splinter fire into the unit. He'll eventually fail a couple 3+s, then he won't be tanking for them anymore

If you are open to the idea of bringing in eldar allies, then harlequins with fortune (with your archon and lelith joining them to gain stealth/shrouding/save rerolls will give him a problem that he needs to deal with very quickly.

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It shouldn't be that surprising.
DE ignore the Daemons bonuses ( decent toughness, invun saves everywhere, poison spam just doesn't care about that).

Same for Eldar, the poison + lances ignore a lot of the bonuses.

While the Tau still fall prey to the poison and lances, they're a fairly hard match for DE, what with everything being able to take out AV10 / 11, and wounding most standard DE on a 2+.
Throw in Railguns auto-penning with a now +3 to damage and it's reasonably hairy.

For your list, the problem I see is lack of heavy support, and everythings quite sub-optimised.
You don't have a real way to deal with vehicles, just the 3 lances (and MAYBE the blasters if you're lucky...).
Also - what points level are you running? I add your list up to 1108pts (and applying the correct values, it's a bit more...), (and the Tau you listed at around 1000-1100pts)

The blaster + lance warriors are expensive, they're also 130pts not 125.
I would honestly run your wyches as Wyches and your Warriors as Trueborn in this. - 2x 2 Lances on squads of 3-5 Trueborn is cheaper and more effective than your warrior blobs.

The Djinn blade isn't worth it, and at this points level Lelith isn't so worth it either.

Running wyches in squads of 5 in venoms or raiders will be enough to tarpit and kill his firewarrior squads.
If you give them Haywire Grenades they'll kill just about any vehicle they touch.

Running the Archon barebones with PGL, Venom Blade and Shadowfield is a nice point saving measure, but I think Haemonculi would benefit the wyches more.

I think ultimately, you want to make all your Bloodbrides regular wyches, give them a transport probably raiders these days) to get to the enemy, then take a ravager or razorwing to deal with armour. (Razorwing would be favourite as it can deal with the Firewarriors quite nicely too.)

Running the Warriors as Warriors with JUST a lance, or 2-3 squads of Trueborn with 2 lances each would be more effective, unless you want to do 5 man warrior squads in a raider.

   
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