Prison With Lowest Reoffending Rate in The World

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**LoneLictor**

Would be a good vacationing spot if it wasn't a prison. They took the worst of the worst, rapists and murderers of different nationalities and put them on a little island with no prison cells. The prisoners wear nice clothes and work normal jobs. After spending a few years there, they're are allowed back into regular society, which is pretty much the same except their neighborhood isn't full of criminals.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18121914

And, for the work blocked...

There has been a lot of introspection in Norway in the year following the attacks carried out by Anders Behring Breivik.

The country's justice system has been subject to intensive scrutiny, and foreigners might be forgiven for assuming that public opinion on crime and punishment had hardened.

But according to the junior minister for justice, Kristin Bergersen, it has not.

"I think the debate we are seeing in Norway right now establishes that we have the right values and the right system for punishment here," she says.

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If this wasn't a prison, the Norwegian government could rent it out for holidays”

Morten
Inmate
It is highly unlikely that Breivik will ever set foot on the prison island of Bastoey. Norway does have solitary confinement cells and high-security wings.

But although it is only one, liberal, end of a penal spectrum, the open prison where inmates wander woods, fields and beaches unhindered is still an important symbol of the Norwegian system. Indeed, to many, it is the jewel in its crown.

"Fundamentally, we believe you have to start with prisoner rehabilitation on day one," Ms Bergersen. "Everybody knows that when you are released in Norway you can be somebody's neighbour.

"It is in the public interest, when it comes to security, that you receive rehabilitation when you are inside the prison system so that you can go out and lead the life that everybody else takes for granted."

Bastoey might be seen as the softest option by some. Its inmates are among the most hardened criminals.

Prisoners are learning new skills
Typically, they are serving long sentences - by Norwegian standards - for the most serious crimes.

Murderers and sex offenders of many different races and nationalities are expected to live peacefully together in small chalets that dot the island.

'In training'
Of course, prisoners who go to Bastoey are carefully selected. Often they are approaching the end of their sentence and release.

In all cases, they are individuals who have decided they could benefit from the lifestyle.

"It's difficult to say that I like being here," says Morten, a 29-year-old Danish man serving a sentence of nearly three years. "But I think if this wasn't a prison, the Norwegian government could rent it out for holidays.

"You are not free, of course. If you tried to escape you would be put back in a normal prison immediately. But if you have to be in prison, this is a good place to be.

"You can do almost whatever you want to. You can walk around the island, play football or hockey or go fishing. In the summer, we have our own beach and you can go there and enjoy the sun."

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Lamin
Inmate
Morten is in the middle of a training session, learning how to cut planks of wood from the tree trunks he and others have felled in the forest.

Next to him, Lamin, a 30-year-old originally from The Gambia, is wielding a large metal hook and a hammer, jamming the logs into position against a circular saw.

"I used to be a boxer," he says. "I was angry every day, stressed. But since I've come here, I am calm and relaxed.

"I feel like I'm in training - practical job training, but also training to be a better person. It's like a test they are giving me and when I go outside and try to live a normal life I will see if I have passed."

The atmosphere on the island does seem relaxed, almost to the point of sleepiness. An occasional prisoner in jeans and sweatshirt cycles past fields of grazing sheep. There is not a raised voice.

Domestic pride
For the prison's governor, Arne Kvernvik-Nilsen, Bastoey is a personal project, the embodiment of an ethos in which he has the belief of the evangelical.

"If this were a holiday camp for criminals, what's the problem if I can show you the result?" he asks.

The result he refers to is a 16% re-offending rate among former Bastoey inmates. It is by far the lowest in Europe, quite possibly the lowest in the world.

"This island is supposed to be as much as possible like an ordinary small, local Norwegian community. This prison is in many ways the opposite of an ordinary prison. Here, as an inmate, you have to be in charge of your own life, take responsibility.

"I do not believe in this old way of thinking that you should respect me. In order for you to do this, you first have to learn to know what respect is, starting with respect for yourself. Then I can start to talk to you about why you should respect me and my neighbour and your neighbour too."

It would be hard to attack the prison on grounds of expense. Bastoey is significantly cheaper to run than conventional penal institutions. Its proportion of guards to inmates is much lower.

At night, it is normal for four or five unarmed guards to be in charge of 114 inmates. And costs are kept down by the fact that prisoners are expected to manage so many aspects of their own lives, from rubbish collection to cooking and cleaning.

One tattooed inmate asks for a moment to comb his hair and change into a smarter shirt before he is filmed giving a tour of his living quarters with a touching sense of domestic pride.

Asked if he can cook, he replies: "Of course. All Norwegian men can cook." The humanising effects of Bastoey have an unnerving tendency to speak for themselves.

**d-usa**

Didn't we talk about this about a month or so ago?

Edit: I was the one who posted it, no wonder it seemed familiar

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http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/90/451107.page#4317920

Given, it was inside another thread though.

**generalgrog**

So it's basically a resort.

Nice...so if I ever wanted to commit a crime I would do it in Norway. I'd ask for dibs on the bungalow next to the ocean.

GG

**hotsauceman1**

Shocker, treat them like humans, and they are humans. Quite frankly the only reason we dont do this in america is because we look at it being soft on crime

**halonachos**

Demographics my man, demographics.

**sebster**

They select in-mates who are near the end of their sentence, and give them a prison that allows them to develop practical life skills before re-entering society.

The same 'we need to meaner to people who've committed crimes' make the same stupid noises they always make, happily ignoring the simple fact that it works.

**rubiksnoob**

Whenever I hear something like this, best prison system in the world, best education system, best transportation system, best use of renewable energy, it always seems to come form that part of the world (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland). Those darn Scandinavians just seem to be more rational and sensible than anyone else. Why is it that they just 'get it', yet no one else can?

**Fafnir**

Because the rest of society is still hell-bent on the idea of catharsis gained through the suffering of the people they view responsible for crime, rather than the actual betterment of society and the people within it.

**Bromsy**

I bet I could design a prison with a lower reoffending rate.

It would involve lots of grinders, and screaming.

**Ouze**

Wait, wait. How is Norway supposed to make any money off their prisons?

**Tibbsy**

Bromsy wrote:I bet I could design a prison with a lower reoffending rate.

It would involve lots of grinders, and screaming.

Exalted

I thought that was pretty funny.

Back OT though, I think this isn't too bad an idea. As it says in the article, for those inmates reaching the end of a sentence, this would be great for letting them integrate back into society. But I wouldn't want to see every prisoner getting sent to one of these places straight away. That would probably be a bad idea...

**Steve steveson**

rubiksnoob wrote:Whenever I hear something like this, best prison system in the world, best education system, best transportation system, best use of renewable energy, it always seems to come form that part of the world (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland). Those darn Scandinavians just seem to be more rational and sensible than anyone else. Why is it that they just 'get it', yet no one else can?

Because the culture of the Nordic countries is one of respect for other people no matter what they have done or who they are. They have a much lower disparity between rich and poor, more respect for one another as humans and a belief in society being more than what you can get for yourself.

Just look at the trial of Anders Breivik. If that trial was in the UK or the US there would be people braying for blood and calling for the return of hanging. In Norway they treated him as a human, excepted that what he had cone might have been driven by mental health problems, and waited in a dignified way to let the system work. "Stoltenberg further vowed that the attack would not hurt Norwegian democracy, and said the proper answer to the violence was "more democracy, more openness, but not naivety".[207] In his speech at the memorial service on 24 July 2011, he opined what would be a proper reaction: "No one has said it better than the AUF girl who was interviewed by CNN: 'If one man can show so much hate, think how much love we could show, standing together.'"

This attitude means criminals are treated as needing help rather than punishment, governments govern for all the people, and don't act as if the people are an intrusion who are to stupid to know what is good for them, the rich do not feel that they have no responsibility to others, companies do not feel that they have no responsibility to there workers etc etc.

It is all down to a cultural respect for others.

**Mr Hyena**

Steve steveson wrote:
rubiksnoob wrote:Whenever I hear something like this, best prison system in the world, best education system, best transportation system, best use of renewable energy, it always seems to come form that part of the world (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland). Those darn Scandinavians just seem to be more rational and sensible than anyone else. Why is it that they just 'get it', yet no one else can?

Because the culture of the Nordic countries is one of respect for other people no matter what they have done or who they are. They have a much lower disparity between rich and poor, more respect for one another as humans and a belief in society being more than what you can get for yourself.

Just look at the trial of Anders Breivik. If that trial was in the UK or the US there would be people braying for blood and calling for the return of hanging. In Norway they treated him as a human, excepted that what he had cone might have been driven by mental health problems, and waited in a dignified way to let the system work. "Stoltenberg further vowed that the attack would not hurt Norwegian democracy, and said the proper answer to the violence was "more democracy, more openness, but not naivety".[207] In his speech at the memorial service on 24 July 2011, he opined what would be a proper reaction: "No one has said it better than the AUF girl who was interviewed by CNN: 'If one man can show so much hate, think how much love we could show, standing together.'"

This attitude means criminals are treated as needing help rather than punishment, governments govern for all the people, and don't act as if the people are an intrusion who are to stupid to know what is good for them, the rich do not feel that they have no responsibility to others, companies do not feel that they have no responsibility to there workers etc etc.

It is all down to a cultural respect for others.

Not very respectful towards victims.

**Grakmar**

So, Norway took all their criminals and sent them off to live on a island.

This is just another Hollywood remake of the British-Australia story.

**d-usa**

Mr Hyena wrote:
Steve steveson wrote:
rubiksnoob wrote:Whenever I hear something like this, best prison system in the world, best education system, best transportation system, best use of renewable energy, it always seems to come form that part of the world (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland). Those darn Scandinavians just seem to be more rational and sensible than anyone else. Why is it that they just 'get it', yet no one else can?

Because the culture of the Nordic countries is one of respect for other people no matter what they have done or who they are. They have a much lower disparity between rich and poor, more respect for one another as humans and a belief in society being more than what you can get for yourself.

Just look at the trial of Anders Breivik. If that trial was in the UK or the US there would be people braying for blood and calling for the return of hanging. In Norway they treated him as a human, excepted that what he had cone might have been driven by mental health problems, and waited in a dignified way to let the system work. "Stoltenberg further vowed that the attack would not hurt Norwegian democracy, and said the proper answer to the violence was "more democracy, more openness, but not naivety".[207] In his speech at the memorial service on 24 July 2011, he opined what would be a proper reaction: "No one has said it better than the AUF girl who was interviewed by CNN: 'If one man can show so much hate, think how much love we could show, standing together.'"

This attitude means criminals are treated as needing help rather than punishment, governments govern for all the people, and don't act as if the people are an intrusion who are to stupid to know what is good for them, the rich do not feel that they have no responsibility to others, companies do not feel that they have no responsibility to there workers etc etc.

It is all down to a cultural respect for others.

Not very respectful towards victims.

Speaking of the victims.

Do the people in this country have a problem with the prison? Are the victims offended by people being in this prison? Do they feel disrespected by this prison?

Or is it just the usual crowd on Dakka that has no iron in the fire complaining about a perceived injustice towards those affected?

**rubiksnoob**

d-usa wrote:
Mr Hyena wrote:
Steve steveson wrote:
rubiksnoob wrote:Whenever I hear something like this, best prison system in the world, best education system, best transportation system, best use of renewable energy, it always seems to come form that part of the world (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland). Those darn Scandinavians just seem to be more rational and sensible than anyone else. Why is it that they just 'get it', yet no one else can?

Because the culture of the Nordic countries is one of respect for other people no matter what they have done or who they are. They have a much lower disparity between rich and poor, more respect for one another as humans and a belief in society being more than what you can get for yourself.

Just look at the trial of Anders Breivik. If that trial was in the UK or the US there would be people braying for blood and calling for the return of hanging. In Norway they treated him as a human, excepted that what he had cone might have been driven by mental health problems, and waited in a dignified way to let the system work. "Stoltenberg further vowed that the attack would not hurt Norwegian democracy, and said the proper answer to the violence was "more democracy, more openness, but not naivety".[207] In his speech at the memorial service on 24 July 2011, he opined what would be a proper reaction: "No one has said it better than the AUF girl who was interviewed by CNN: 'If one man can show so much hate, think how much love we could show, standing together.'"

This attitude means criminals are treated as needing help rather than punishment, governments govern for all the people, and don't act as if the people are an intrusion who are to stupid to know what is good for them, the rich do not feel that they have no responsibility to others, companies do not feel that they have no responsibility to there workers etc etc.

It is all down to a cultural respect for others.

Not very respectful towards victims.

Speaking of the victims.

Do the people in this country have a problem with the prison? Are the victims offended by people being in this prison? Do they feel disrespected by this prison?

Or is it just the usual crowd on Dakka that has no iron in the fire complaining about a perceived injustice towards those affected?

I think possibly the latter.

**Goliath**

Mr Hyena wrote:
Steve steveson wrote:
rubiksnoob wrote:Whenever I hear something like this, best prison system in the world, best education system, best transportation system, best use of renewable energy, it always seems to come form that part of the world (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland). Those darn Scandinavians just seem to be more rational and sensible than anyone else. Why is it that they just 'get it', yet no one else can?

Because the culture of the Nordic countries is one of respect for other people no matter what they have done or who they are. They have a much lower disparity between rich and poor, more respect for one another as humans and a belief in society being more than what you can get for yourself.

Just look at the trial of Anders Breivik. If that trial was in the UK or the US there would be people braying for blood and calling for the return of hanging. In Norway they treated him as a human, excepted that what he had cone might have been driven by mental health problems, and waited in a dignified way to let the system work. "Stoltenberg further vowed that the attack would not hurt Norwegian democracy, and said the proper answer to the violence was "more democracy, more openness, but not naivety".[207] In his speech at the memorial service on 24 July 2011, he opined what would be a proper reaction: "No one has said it better than the AUF girl who was interviewed by CNN: 'If one man can show so much hate, think how much love we could show, standing together.'"

This attitude means criminals are treated as needing help rather than punishment, governments govern for all the people, and don't act as if the people are an intrusion who are to stupid to know what is good for them, the rich do not feel that they have no responsibility to others, companies do not feel that they have no responsibility to there workers etc etc.

It is all down to a cultural respect for others.

Not very respectful towards victims.

So what in yor opinion counts as "respect towards the victims"?

**Chongara**

I think stuff like this makes sense. The vast majority of people who commit crimes don't do it because they're psychopath who get their jollies from hurting people, or are lazy bums afraid to work for living. Crime comes about when people don't feel like they have other options to reasonably meet their needs, because they don't feel invested in society and they lack other ways to gain prosperity or be part of a group. They're not fundamentally different from any of the rest of us, given some opportunity to get practical skills, and ways to get invested society it naturally follows they wouldn't re-offend.

It's really good to see an approach like this being taken. It seems more effective at keeping criminals off the streets in the long term (by virtue of turning people into non-criminals) and it understands that these offenders aren't monsters that need to be hunted down and shoved in a dark pit, they're still people even they have done terrible things. Harming people who harm us neither does anything to undo that original harm nor does it create any capacity for good, it's just yet another increase to the misery in the world.

Wait. No. That's not remotely close to a rational response. What I meant to say is.

What utter gakky nonsense. I guess if everyone just gets to go to an island vacation when you killl people, I should just start mugging people. Then using their money to buy like diamond encrusted baseball bats that I beat them to death with. That means i'll get the cool vacation and then get to keep all my stuff and they'll give me a "Very best criminal award" an tons of taxpayer money to roll around in, while I give the middle finger to the victim's family. Oh yeaaah.

SOooooooooo stupid. I know a way of dealing with criminals that has a zero percent re-offending rate, and it doesn't even cost $1.00. Yeeeeehaw, kerblammo. These idiots need to stop all their bleedin' harts so they ain't SOFT ON CRIME.

**Mr Hyena**

Goliath wrote:
Mr Hyena wrote:
Steve steveson wrote:
rubiksnoob wrote:Whenever I hear something like this, best prison system in the world, best education system, best transportation system, best use of renewable energy, it always seems to come form that part of the world (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland). Those darn Scandinavians just seem to be more rational and sensible than anyone else. Why is it that they just 'get it', yet no one else can?

Because the culture of the Nordic countries is one of respect for other people no matter what they have done or who they are. They have a much lower disparity between rich and poor, more respect for one another as humans and a belief in society being more than what you can get for yourself.

Just look at the trial of Anders Breivik. If that trial was in the UK or the US there would be people braying for blood and calling for the return of hanging. In Norway they treated him as a human, excepted that what he had cone might have been driven by mental health problems, and waited in a dignified way to let the system work. "Stoltenberg further vowed that the attack would not hurt Norwegian democracy, and said the proper answer to the violence was "more democracy, more openness, but not naivety".[207] In his speech at the memorial service on 24 July 2011, he opined what would be a proper reaction: "No one has said it better than the AUF girl who was interviewed by CNN: 'If one man can show so much hate, think how much love we could show, standing together.'"

This attitude means criminals are treated as needing help rather than punishment, governments govern for all the people, and don't act as if the people are an intrusion who are to stupid to know what is good for them, the rich do not feel that they have no responsibility to others, companies do not feel that they have no responsibility to there workers etc etc.

It is all down to a cultural respect for others.

Not very respectful towards victims.

So what in yor opinion counts as "respect towards the victims"?

An understanding that murder, rape and assorted crimes higher than petty theft is actually morally wrong and that sentencing should reflect the severity of the crime, rather than ignoring that anything wrong was done.

Only after this is dealt with should rehabilitation be considered.

**xole**

I imagine it isn't as successful with sex offenders, especially pedophiles. Some things are just a part of the brain.

Usually, you only get pissed off enough to murder someone once, so I don't consider that population relevant. The only types of crimes where "fixing" the criminal is worth doing/possible, is with arsonists/property destruction, thieves, and people involved in violent crime(not murder).

Personally, I'm kind of for turning prisons into factories. They make goods, they get goods. Only have guards on the outside, only use them for transfer of goods. Let the prisoners figure out how to run a society on their own.

I think it would be a fun experiment. Would make for a good tv show.

**LoneLictor**

Mr Hyena wrote:
Goliath wrote:
Mr Hyena wrote:
Steve steveson wrote:
rubiksnoob wrote:Whenever I hear something like this, best prison system in the world, best education system, best transportation system, best use of renewable energy, it always seems to come form that part of the world (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland). Those darn Scandinavians just seem to be more rational and sensible than anyone else. Why is it that they just 'get it', yet no one else can?

Because the culture of the Nordic countries is one of respect for other people no matter what they have done or who they are. They have a much lower disparity between rich and poor, more respect for one another as humans and a belief in society being more than what you can get for yourself.

Just look at the trial of Anders Breivik. If that trial was in the UK or the US there would be people braying for blood and calling for the return of hanging. In Norway they treated him as a human, excepted that what he had cone might have been driven by mental health problems, and waited in a dignified way to let the system work. "Stoltenberg further vowed that the attack would not hurt Norwegian democracy, and said the proper answer to the violence was "more democracy, more openness, but not naivety".[207] In his speech at the memorial service on 24 July 2011, he opined what would be a proper reaction: "No one has said it better than the AUF girl who was interviewed by CNN: 'If one man can show so much hate, think how much love we could show, standing together.'"

This attitude means criminals are treated as needing help rather than punishment, governments govern for all the people, and don't act as if the people are an intrusion who are to stupid to know what is good for them, the rich do not feel that they have no responsibility to others, companies do not feel that they have no responsibility to there workers etc etc.

It is all down to a cultural respect for others.

Not very respectful towards victims.

So what in yor opinion counts as "respect towards the victims"?

An understanding that murder, rape and assorted crimes higher than petty theft is actually morally wrong and that sentencing should reflect the severity of the crime, rather than ignoring that anything wrong was done.

Only after this is dealt with should rehabilitation be considered.

So you would prefer spending more money and time on prisoners just to inflict suffering, when the evidence has shown that approach is bad for society?

Okay.

**Goliath**

Mr Hyena wrote:
Goliath wrote:
Mr Hyena wrote:
Steve steveson wrote:
rubiksnoob wrote:Whenever I hear something like this, best prison system in the world, best education system, best transportation system, best use of renewable energy, it always seems to come form that part of the world (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland). Those darn Scandinavians just seem to be more rational and sensible than anyone else. Why is it that they just 'get it', yet no one else can?

Because the culture of the Nordic countries is one of respect for other people no matter what they have done or who they are. They have a much lower disparity between rich and poor, more respect for one another as humans and a belief in society being more than what you can get for yourself.

Just look at the trial of Anders Breivik. If that trial was in the UK or the US there would be people braying for blood and calling for the return of hanging. In Norway they treated him as a human, excepted that what he had cone might have been driven by mental health problems, and waited in a dignified way to let the system work. "Stoltenberg further vowed that the attack would not hurt Norwegian democracy, and said the proper answer to the violence was "more democracy, more openness, but not naivety".[207] In his speech at the memorial service on 24 July 2011, he opined what would be a proper reaction: "No one has said it better than the AUF girl who was interviewed by CNN: 'If one man can show so much hate, think how much love we could show, standing together.'"

This attitude means criminals are treated as needing help rather than punishment, governments govern for all the people, and don't act as if the people are an intrusion who are to stupid to know what is good for them, the rich do not feel that they have no responsibility to others, companies do not feel that they have no responsibility to there workers etc etc.

It is all down to a cultural respect for others.

Not very respectful towards victims.

So what in yor opinion counts as "respect towards the victims"?

An understanding that murder, rape and assorted crimes higher than petty theft is actually morally wrong and that sentencing should reflect the severity of the crime, rather than ignoring that anything wrong was done.

Only after this is dealt with should rehabilitation be considered.

I think I see what you're trying to say. So they should only go to this training island place if they're on short sentences for less severe crimes, or if they've already served almost all of a much longer sentence (so they can be re-integrated with society on release)?

**DiAF**

rubiksnoob wrote:Whenever I hear something like this, best prison system in the world, best education system, best transportation system, best use of renewable energy, it always seems to come form that part of the world (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland). Those darn Scandinavians just seem to be more rational and sensible than anyone else. Why is it that they just 'get it', yet no one else can?

Vikings, that's why.

**Howard A Treesong**

rubiksnoob wrote:Whenever I hear something like this, best prison system in the world, best education system, best transportation system, best use of renewable energy, it always seems to come form that part of the world (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland). Those darn Scandinavians just seem to be more rational and sensible than anyone else. Why is it that they just 'get it', yet no one else can?

Their driving lessons and test are probably among the most rigorous too. Why do you think they produce so many top rally drivers? It's because they have to learn to drive in those conditions just to get to work in the winter.

**dogma**

Mr Hyena wrote:
An understanding that murder, rape and assorted crimes higher than petty theft is actually morally wrong and that sentencing should reflect the severity of the crime, rather than ignoring that anything wrong was done.

Only after this is dealt with should rehabilitation be considered.

Interestingly you never once mentioned the interests of the victim, only your own. This tells me you don't care about the victim at all, but your own catharsis, which is selfish in the extreme.

**Gitzbitah**

DiAF wrote:
rubiksnoob wrote:Whenever I hear something like this, best prison system in the world, best education system, best transportation system, best use of renewable energy, it always seems to come form that part of the world (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland). Those darn Scandinavians just seem to be more rational and sensible than anyone else. Why is it that they just 'get it', yet no one else can?
Vikings, that's why.

Actually, I think that's pretty close to the truth of the matter. Remember, the Vikings were brutal raiders who plundered anything that wasn't nailed down- but they also were perfectly willing to be bought off, and ended up settling and intermarrying with every population they encountered. They were willing to fight in a brutal age- but they just didn't go in for the genocidal warfare or oppression you saw in other countries or the Crusades. As far back as the early middle ages, they have been models of acceptance and tolerance when they weren't actively battling an opposing force.

**youbedead**

Howard A Treesong wrote:
rubiksnoob wrote:Whenever I hear something like this, best prison system in the world, best education system, best transportation system, best use of renewable energy, it always seems to come form that part of the world (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland). Those darn Scandinavians just seem to be more rational and sensible than anyone else. Why is it that they just 'get it', yet no one else can?

Their driving lessons and test are probably among the most rigorous too. Why do you think they produce so many top rally drivers? It's because they have to learn to drive in those conditions just to get to work in the winter.

If you want to win get a finn

**generalgrog**

If they really wanted to reform inmates..all they would have to do is spend 1 summer with frazz and his weiners. That would be enough to scare people off of crime..

GG

**Fafnir**

Or what if it inspired them to commit crimes in order to go to prison in order to ensure their safety from the weiners?

**sebster**

Mr Hyena wrote:Not very respectful towards victims.

The most respectful thing for victims is to do whatever makes repeat offence least likely. If giving a criminal a good chance of a normal life upon re-entering society is the best option, then so be it.

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xole wrote:I imagine it isn't as successful with sex offenders, especially pedophiles. Some things are just a part of the brain.

That's actually not true. Depending on the nature of the sex offence, and the circumstances of the individual, the chance of re-offence is often extremely low.