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Why on earth do Space Wolves Drop Pods have a ten-model capacity and Vanilla Marines (and, I assume, BA) have a 12-model limit?

Pick your answer:

1) So you can't have 2 specials and a wolf guard PL in a GH pack and a drop pod.

2) SW drop pods use the antiquated Mark IV drop pod design which sacrificed space for additional heat shielding and a small set of boosters to make landings harder and faster. Vanilla marines often use the Mark V or Mark VI drop pods which use lighter materials in order to afford more room inside the pod. Largely, this makes the pods the same except for the slight difference in tranport capacity.

3) Because Phill Kelly said so.

Have to make room for SW's beards and wolf pelts.

Worms4u wrote:Have to make room for SW's beards and wolf pelts.

Room for their ego, more like.

No, the Beer Kegs

Vanilla Smace Marines are the only army that has a capacity of 12 on their drop pods. No other chapter is mean enough to force the two youngest squad members to drop without restraint harness.

Because they do...

pretre wrote:Pick your answer:

1) So you can't have 2 specials and a wolf guard PL in a GH pack and a drop pod.

2) SW drop pods use the antiquated Mark IV drop pod design which sacrificed space for additional heat shielding and a small set of boosters to make landings harder and faster. Vanilla marines often use the Mark V or Mark VI drop pods which use lighter materials in order to afford more room inside the pod. Largely, this makes the pods the same except for the slight difference in tranport capacity.

3) Because Phill Kelly said so.

Howzibout the real reason.

Matt Ward screwed up. Matt made Drop Pods and the basic landraider hold 12 guys when he wrote the C:SM codex to allow for full squads of 10 guys + special characters. However, he even admitted, that he got chewed out for it by the higher ups. Those vehicles never should have held more than 10 guys.

So all drop pods and basic landraiders after that got bumped back down to 10 guys as they should be. Just think of it as an accidental perk for playing C:SM codex.

And this never got errata'ed? Huh.

Veldrain wrote:Vanilla Smace Marines are the only army that has a capacity of 12 on their drop pods. No other chapter is mean enough to force the two youngest squad members to drop without restraint harness.

I like this answer best

Ach laddie ye canne do a drop without taking some ale with ya do ye ken?

Jayden63 wrote:

pretre wrote:Pick your answer:

1) So you can't have 2 specials and a wolf guard PL in a GH pack and a drop pod.

2) SW drop pods use the antiquated Mark IV drop pod design which sacrificed space for additional heat shielding and a small set of boosters to make landings harder and faster. Vanilla marines often use the Mark V or Mark VI drop pods which use lighter materials in order to afford more room inside the pod. Largely, this makes the pods the same except for the slight difference in tranport capacity.

3) Because Phill Kelly said so.

Howzibout the real reason.

Matt Ward screwed up. Matt made Drop Pods and the basic landraider hold 12 guys when he wrote the C:SM codex to allow for full squads of 10 guys + special characters. However, he even admitted, that he got chewed out for it by the higher ups. Those vehicles never should have held more than 10 guys.

So all drop pods and basic landraiders after that got bumped back down to 10 guys as they should be. Just think of it as an accidental perk for playing C:SM codex.

Citation needed.

I like the idea of Space Wolves dropping into battle with a keg of ale strapped into both spare seats. Or they replaced them with pet carriers for the wolves.

pretre wrote:

Jayden63 wrote:

pretre wrote:Pick your answer:

1) So you can't have 2 specials and a wolf guard PL in a GH pack and a drop pod.

2) SW drop pods use the antiquated Mark IV drop pod design which sacrificed space for additional heat shielding and a small set of boosters to make landings harder and faster. Vanilla marines often use the Mark V or Mark VI drop pods which use lighter materials in order to afford more room inside the pod. Largely, this makes the pods the same except for the slight difference in tranport capacity.

3) Because Phill Kelly said so.

Howzibout the real reason.

Matt Ward screwed up. Matt made Drop Pods and the basic landraider hold 12 guys when he wrote the C:SM codex to allow for full squads of 10 guys + special characters. However, he even admitted, that he got chewed out for it by the higher ups. Those vehicles never should have held more than 10 guys.

So all drop pods and basic landraiders after that got bumped back down to 10 guys as they should be. Just think of it as an accidental perk for playing C:SM codex.

Citation needed.

None needed, its common knowledge now, proven by every other dex only having caps of 10

What's with the whining puppies? Both here and YMDC has threads with SW players complaining about vanilla marine toys. Its like trust-fund kids complaining that they never had the fun of manual labor in high school.

pretre wrote:

Jayden63 wrote:

pretre wrote:Pick your answer:

1) So you can't have 2 specials and a wolf guard PL in a GH pack and a drop pod.

2) SW drop pods use the antiquated Mark IV drop pod design which sacrificed space for additional heat shielding and a small set of boosters to make landings harder and faster. Vanilla marines often use the Mark V or Mark VI drop pods which use lighter materials in order to afford more room inside the pod. Largely, this makes the pods the same except for the slight difference in tranport capacity.

3) Because Phill Kelly said so.

Howzibout the real reason.

Matt Ward screwed up. Matt made Drop Pods and the basic landraider hold 12 guys when he wrote the C:SM codex to allow for full squads of 10 guys + special characters. However, he even admitted, that he got chewed out for it by the higher ups. Those vehicles never should have held more than 10 guys.

So all drop pods and basic landraiders after that got bumped back down to 10 guys as they should be. Just think of it as an accidental perk for playing C:SM codex.

Citation needed.

Here are a few links to a different threads/boards where someone else posted it.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/407846.page?userfilterid=6772
http://warhammer.org.uk/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=76621

Lobukia wrote:What's with the whining puppies? Both here and YMDC has threads with SW players complaining about vanilla marine toys. Its like trust-fund kids complaining that they never had the fun of manual labor in high school.

Most of did not whine, we looked, went WTF! Oh that space is for the Chain Swords and the Cask Goes there , we’re good.

Anpu42 wrote:

Lobukia wrote:What's with the whining puppies? Both here and YMDC has threads with SW players complaining about vanilla marine toys. Its like trust-fund kids complaining that they never had the fun of manual labor in high school.

Most of did not whine, we looked, went WTF! Oh that space is for the Chain Swords and the Cask Goes there , we’re good.

Atta boy! My SW are for when I feel like kicking a puppy or beating someone down. My vanillas are for when I'm collected enough to want to out think someone. Tau are for humility, and Orks are to relax.

AegisGrimm wrote:I like the idea of Space Wolves dropping into battle with a keg of ale strapped into both spare seats. Or they replaced them with pet carriers for the wolves.

Both I'd think

I have this great mental picture of a giant Fenrisian wolf at the vet's office in a massive pet carrier now XD

So basically "some guys said it in MW bitch threads so it must be true"? Riiiight.

just wish I could put Canis and his 2 wolves on a Pod.
I can do Ragnar his 2 wolves and 5 Wolf Guard in one

Why would you deep strike TWC? Defeats the purpose.

pretre wrote:Why would you deep strike TWC? Defeats the purpose.

Just for the look on that Tau Etherials Face

Anpu42 wrote:

pretre wrote:Why would you deep strike TWC? Defeats the purpose.

Just for the look on that Tau Etherials Face

Who takes an Etherial?

Shrike325 wrote:

Anpu42 wrote:

pretre wrote:Why would you deep strike TWC? Defeats the purpose.

Just for the look on that Tau Etherials Face

Who takes an Etherial?

Thats why there are no TWC in Pods

Jayden63 wrote:
Howzibout the real reason.

Matt Ward screwed up. Matt made Drop Pods and the basic landraider hold 12 guys when he wrote the C:SM codex to allow for full squads of 10 guys + special characters. However, he even admitted, that he got chewed out for it by the higher ups. Those vehicles never should have held more than 10 guys.

So all drop pods and basic landraiders after that got bumped back down to 10 guys as they should be. Just think of it as an accidental perk for playing C:SM codex.

I cannot believe what I'm going to say... I think Ward was right. It is bloody annoying that you cannot fit joined ICs in to the transports.


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Also, of the all the things Ward has done, this was what he got chewed out for. Really?

Rule of cool says TWC in drop pods would be awesome, men riding giant death wolves rocketing in from orbit and exploding on to the foe form their metal death eggs.

Crimson wrote:

Jayden63 wrote:
Howzibout the real reason.

Matt Ward screwed up. Matt made Drop Pods and the basic landraider hold 12 guys when he wrote the C:SM codex to allow for full squads of 10 guys + special characters. However, he even admitted, that he got chewed out for it by the higher ups. Those vehicles never should have held more than 10 guys.

So all drop pods and basic landraiders after that got bumped back down to 10 guys as they should be. Just think of it as an accidental perk for playing C:SM codex.

I cannot believe what I'm going to say... I think Ward was right. It is bloody annoying that you cannot fit joined ICs in to the transports.


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Also, of the all the things Ward has done, this was what he got chewed out for. Really?

IIRC you used to be able to fit them in a standard land raider by taking a 4 man terminator command squad+IC, but BT are the only army still with termie command squads I think

pretre wrote:So basically "some guys said it in MW bitch threads so it must be true"? Riiiight.

I found two refrences in 5 minutes with a google search. I'm sure a longer search would get more results.

But I'm don't feel the need. Seriously, ask yourself, how come the three SM based codexs that have been released (two of which by Ward) since C:SM don't have 12 man drop pods or Landraiders? I think its a little obvious where the mistake was made.

Jayden63 wrote:

pretre wrote:So basically "some guys said it in MW bitch threads so it must be true"? Riiiight.

I found two refrences in 5 minutes with a google search. I'm sure a longer search would get more results.

But I'm don't feel the need. Seriously, ask yourself, how come the three SM based codexs that have been released (two of which by Ward) since C:SM don't have 12 man drop pods or Landraiders? I think its a little obvious where the mistake was made.

...or the codex that needs 10 men in a squad to get toys might need something different the magpie toy hording puppy dogs?!