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Recently I have been really surprised, (I just started fantasy so I don't exactly know the trends but..) it seems that the posts in this section of the forum usually tend to sit for long periods of time. Where as if you look at the 40k section they fly through. Now, I was always under the impression that fantasy was more popular, not to mention the fact that it has been around longer. Am I right? Or is 40k really taking over?

The answer to your question is simple.
Dakka is primarily a 40k forum, there just happen to be sections on other games WHFB being one of the bigger ones.

Goes to show how much I actually know about this site's origins

40k is bigger in America as far as I can tell and WHFB is the dominant system in Europe. In Oz its about 50/50 (well in my meta it is)

We have a lot of great generals in the WHFB forums on dakkadakka, however 90% of threads seem to be "Hey I am new to WHFB and need help choosing an army because I am to fething stupid and lazy to use google"

Yes 40k dose have more players here on Dakka. But here in the old world Fantasy is more popular it seems, at least in my part of the world

Trondheim wrote:Yes 40k dose have more players here on Dakka. But here in the old world Fantasy is more popular it seems, at least in my part of the world

Here too.
My closest store recently got away all their space marines.

thenoobbomb wrote:

Trondheim wrote:Yes 40k dose have more players here on Dakka. But here in the old world Fantasy is more popular it seems, at least in my part of the world

Here too.
My closest store recently got away all their space marines.

wOOt! Damn and I who intended to aquier more power armourd men. But yes fantasy is much bigger here in Europa, it may have to do with the fact that fantasy games/books in general at most times, have a distinc European feel to them

As an American who has been to at least both costs and saw the start of GW in this country, 40K was always vastly more popular. I didn't even know they had fantasy for quite a while. D&D really dominated everything fantasy, even though it was an RPG, they still had offshoots. So I think GW make a conscious effort not to compete with that. We went to our GW store as kids and bought our Dragon magazone (TSR, aka D&D) and adventure books. And all the 40K stuff was on the other side. I remember bloodbowl. But I can't recall fantasy.

It seems like it is that way, although the active WHFB players are really good for tactics. As for the balance of 40K/WHFB, at my local store there are more 40K players than WHFB players, but most of the vets play both.

Alternatively it could be that WFB players are less interested in ripping apart their hobby than 40k players.

Trondheim wrote:

thenoobbomb wrote:

Trondheim wrote:Yes 40k dose have more players here on Dakka. But here in the old world Fantasy is more popular it seems, at least in my part of the world

Here too.
My closest store recently got away all their space marines.

wOOt! Damn and I who intended to aquier more power armourd men. But yes fantasy is much bigger here in Europa, it may have to do with the fact that fantasy games/books in general at most times, have a distinc European feel to them

I like Space Marines, so wasn't really happy with that, since it got replaced by LARP gear, and not Skaven or Warriors of Chaos. *bursts out in tears*

LARP gear is never a good replacement. I do not think Fantasy is in decline. If anything I think the fan base is actually growing. It just depends on the ebb and flow of what GW decides to release at any given point. 40k is larger in the States, Fantasy is larger in Europe. However, my FLGS has a huge following of both.

I'd say cost is a factor as well. With fantasy you need blocks of troops you need at least 2 large 40 man blocks in 8th on average for a cost of now $25-$30 for 10 models well over $200 just for your infantry blocks add in rares, specials, heroes and so on and it adds up. I would be able to get a lot more people into this hobby if it wasn't so expensive. Only 2 years ago when I became involved in the hobby it was expensive but I could pick up a box of something or a model here and there when I went into the store now it's just crazy expensive.

Rivet wrote:LARP gear is never a good replacement. I do not think Fantasy is in decline. If anything I think the fan base is actually growing. It just depends on the ebb and flow of what GW decides to release at any given point. 40k is larger in the States, Fantasy is larger in Europe. However, my FLGS has a huge following of both.

This describes how it is in Norway I think, although Fantasy will always have a slight upper hand I think. Since fantasy allows for more implements of Scandinavian lore/ themes.

Hargus56 wrote:I'd say cost is a factor as well. With fantasy you need blocks of troops you need at least 2 large 40 man blocks in 8th on average for a cost of now $25-$30 for 10 models well over $200 just for your infantry blocks add in rares, specials, heroes and so on and it adds up. I would be able to get a lot more people into this hobby if it wasn't so expensive. Only 2 years ago when I became involved in the hobby it was expensive but I could pick up a box of something or a model here and there when I went into the store now it's just crazy expensive.

No more so than any other GW game. I think that many people look at it and see it as more work than 40k. Instead of that huge landraider you have 30-40 more guys to paint. It's all preference. I never subscribed to the WFB is more expensive than 40k arguement.

Stoupe wrote:

Hargus56 wrote:I'd say cost is a factor as well. With fantasy you need blocks of troops you need at least 2 large 40 man blocks in 8th on average for a cost of now $25-$30 for 10 models well over $200 just for your infantry blocks add in rares, specials, heroes and so on and it adds up. I would be able to get a lot more people into this hobby if it wasn't so expensive. Only 2 years ago when I became involved in the hobby it was expensive but I could pick up a box of something or a model here and there when I went into the store now it's just crazy expensive.

No more so than any other GW game. I think that many people look at it and see it as more work than 40k. Instead of that huge landraider you have 30-40 more guys to paint. It's all preference. I never subscribed to the WFB is more expensive than 40k arguement.

And whatever the answer to that riddle it has little to do with the OP's question.

My point being you lower cost you increase demand. In my area it's a fine line, within my driving distance there are 3 gaming stores, 2 independent and 1 GW. Fantasy is not played at the independent stores, if GW closes that store I would hope the fantasy players would be active at the other stores but who knows, people may not want to drop $300 on a fantasy army that if one store gets cut it is not supported in the area by other players or stores.

A majority of my posts regard rules debates, and focusing more on Fantasy has seen a marked decline in my posting.

Even the debatable rules are more clearly non-sense; instead of technically parsing multiple ways, the bunk just does not make ANY sense.

Hargus56 wrote:My point being you lower cost you increase demand. In my area it's a fine line, within my driving distance there are 3 gaming stores, 2 independent and 1 GW. Fantasy is not played at the independent stores, if GW closes that store I would hope the fantasy players would be active at the other stores but who knows, people may not want to drop $300 on a fantasy army that if one store gets cut it is not supported in the area by other players or stores.

And what has that got to do with this thread?

There are plenty of threads that discuss price, this ain't one.

You're right, bottom line this is a 40k forum, I do find the individual armies forums to be pretty active and if you are new to fantasy I would look there as well.

marielle wrote:Alternatively it could be that WFB players are less interested in ripping apart their hobby than 40k players.

I can agree w/ this. For a variety of pscyhoanalytical reasons I won't go in to, dedicated 40k players and dedicated WHFB players are simply different, in general (not always, though). Anyone who argues otherwise (usually 40k players it seems) is naive or blind or a fool. Or some combo of the 3.

marielle wrote:

Hargus56 wrote:My point being you lower cost you increase demand. In my area it's a fine line, within my driving distance there are 3 gaming stores, 2 independent and 1 GW. Fantasy is not played at the independent stores, if GW closes that store I would hope the fantasy players would be active at the other stores but who knows, people may not want to drop $300 on a fantasy army that if one store gets cut it is not supported in the area by other players or stores.

And what has that got to do with this thread?

There are plenty of threads that discuss price, this ain't one.

he basically stated price directly affects demand. Demand directly affects popularity which then indirectly affects activity. So, the connection between cost (Fantasy is more expensive than 40k if you plan to play at the generally accepted pt values) and forum activity, while only a correlation, isn't so faulty.

I became a mod on the vampire forums so I have begun to neglect Dakka.

Wich vampire forums?
There are more, iirc.

Johnny-Crass wrote:I became a mod on the vampire forums so I have begun to neglect Dakka.

I do not see much life... (hahahahaha) over there... I still check it but yeah...

Carpe Noctem. We are insanely active over there

Johnny-Crass wrote:Carpe Noctem. We are insanely active over there

I guess I am just not checking the parts that are active :(

Fantesy is a more experienced players game IMO.

Many 40k players will eventually move on to Fantesy(and play both games)

As such its a more methodical crowd. hence why posts sit for a longer time. That and this is a primarily 40k forum.

I really am not active on Dakka anymore at all. Thus the less posts about Metal and my Beastmen and Harad.

Grey Templar wrote:Many 40k players will eventually move on to Fantesy(and play both games)

I... i never did that.

Grey Templar wrote:Fantesy is a more experienced players game IMO.

Many 40k players will eventually move on to Fantesy(and play both games)

As such its a more methodical crowd. hence why posts sit for a longer time. That and this is a primarily 40k forum.

This, I think a lot of players eventually move from 40k to Fantasy but maintain playing both. However, I have not gone back and played 40k since I started Fantasy... but I intend to! Just want my new CSM codex. heh.

Anyways, something, something, Vampire Counts, something else.