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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 02:46:38
Subject: starting warhammer 40k rouge trader and need help starting
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i would like to be a kroot mercenary that has the equipment to deal with anything, but is good sniper with a pulse rifle, can kill groups with auto pistols and can go toe - to - toe with any enemy in agility and melee
can you help me what i should do to to make him this way? with skills and what not and im a noob so can you tell me with what does what?
also for sake of dice rolls lets say i just roll advrige dice rolls
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we dunno wot you been told,
our Stormboyz here are mighty bold,
we da best of da lot,
we make yins look like grots
 I am White/Black Take The Magic Dual Colour Test - Beta today! <small>Created with Rum and Monkey's Personality Test Generator.</small>I'm both orderly and selfish. I act mostly for my own benefit, but I respect and help my community - Specially when it helps me. At best, I'm loyal and dedicated; at worst, I'm elitist and shrewd. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 13:29:26
Subject: starting warhammer 40k rouge trader and need help starting
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Pretty sure you can't start with a talent to use a pulse rifle, but I am not home with my books. I think you get a Kroot rifle. You can be a melee monster, though, as you start with unnatural strength.
You only get 400-500 xp to start, so aside from your choice of "clan" of Kroot, and a couple of skills or talents (I like Nymune Organ, giving you an extra reaction a turn) you pretty much are who you are.
You can use your starting aquisitions to get a pulse rifle (whether or not you can use it) and a power weapon for melee. Power sword is good for parrying, Power Maul hits real hard, power fist hits like a truck with Unnatural Strength.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 14:39:18
Subject: Re:starting warhammer 40k rouge trader and need help starting
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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so just start with a kroot rifle and use the melee end of it can i upgrade that end to a power weapon? and how hard is it to get something like duel wielding flame swords ( if there is such a thing )
and thanks for the assistence
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we dunno wot you been told,
our Stormboyz here are mighty bold,
we da best of da lot,
we make yins look like grots
 I am White/Black Take The Magic Dual Colour Test - Beta today! <small>Created with Rum and Monkey's Personality Test Generator.</small>I'm both orderly and selfish. I act mostly for my own benefit, but I respect and help my community - Specially when it helps me. At best, I'm loyal and dedicated; at worst, I'm elitist and shrewd. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 14:47:17
Subject: starting warhammer 40k rouge trader and need help starting
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Wait, are you starting a Rouge Trader game, or a Rogue Trader game?
Just need to know how much camp I should suggest you put in.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 15:09:10
Subject: Re:starting warhammer 40k rouge trader and need help starting
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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you just repeated yourself and i know how to make a charicter but i know nothing about the skills and what not, but i know what the stats are ( mostly thanks to i actually play the table top game ) and im just reading the book on scribd ( because im broke and dont have the money to buy it yet ) and there is a group at my local gaming center that plays it and did sort of a "demo" version for me and i would like to play and get more into it Automatically Appended Next Post: so pretty much i am just starting both the game and learning how to play basicly
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/08/09 15:10:02
we dunno wot you been told,
our Stormboyz here are mighty bold,
we da best of da lot,
we make yins look like grots
 I am White/Black Take The Magic Dual Colour Test - Beta today! <small>Created with Rum and Monkey's Personality Test Generator.</small>I'm both orderly and selfish. I act mostly for my own benefit, but I respect and help my community - Specially when it helps me. At best, I'm loyal and dedicated; at worst, I'm elitist and shrewd. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 15:22:16
Subject: starting warhammer 40k rouge trader and need help starting
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Repeat myself? What?
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 15:26:07
Subject: Re:starting warhammer 40k rouge trader and need help starting
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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nvm Automatically Appended Next Post: i bascily to put it short know nothing of this if you needed to help me
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/08/09 15:34:10
we dunno wot you been told,
our Stormboyz here are mighty bold,
we da best of da lot,
we make yins look like grots
 I am White/Black Take The Magic Dual Colour Test - Beta today! <small>Created with Rum and Monkey's Personality Test Generator.</small>I'm both orderly and selfish. I act mostly for my own benefit, but I respect and help my community - Specially when it helps me. At best, I'm loyal and dedicated; at worst, I'm elitist and shrewd. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 15:56:34
Subject: starting warhammer 40k rouge trader and need help starting
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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I was just poking fun at your misspelling, it's one of my pet peeves.
Rouge = a cosmetic, used to redden one's cheeks to create a blushing effect.
Thus, rouge trader = really camp gay guy who goes around selling makeup.
Rogue, meanwhile, is a vagrant or wanderer in this context. Thus, Rogue Trader would be a wandering trader.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 15:59:25
Subject: starting warhammer 40k Rogue Trader and need help starting
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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Melissia wrote:I was just poking fun at your misspelling, it's one of my pet peeves.
Rouge = a cosmetic, used to redden one's cheeks to create a blushing effect.
Thus, rouge trader = really camp gay guy who goes around selling makeup.
Rogue, meanwhile, is a vagrant or wanderer in this context. Thus, Rogue Trader would be a wandering trader.
* facepalm* ok thanks for helping me on that Automatically Appended Next Post: so is anyone able to help me with this? on what i should do to start with ?
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/08/09 16:35:10
we dunno wot you been told,
our Stormboyz here are mighty bold,
we da best of da lot,
we make yins look like grots
 I am White/Black Take The Magic Dual Colour Test - Beta today! <small>Created with Rum and Monkey's Personality Test Generator.</small>I'm both orderly and selfish. I act mostly for my own benefit, but I respect and help my community - Specially when it helps me. At best, I'm loyal and dedicated; at worst, I'm elitist and shrewd. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 16:50:45
Subject: starting warhammer 40k rouge trader and need help starting
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I've given all the help I can give, without being at home with my books. I prefer to spend starting xp on Hyperactive Nymune Organ than on skills or talents, though, based on the fact that 2 reactions a turn is awesome.
Beyond starting xp, I like the Stalker clan, that gives concealment as a free action usable even while observed, but there is one that gives a bonus to ballistic skill, which sounds like the one you'd prefer for your character.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 17:03:08
Subject: starting warhammer 40k rouge trader and need help starting
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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Poison wrote:I've given all the help I can give, without being at home with my books. I prefer to spend starting xp on Hyperactive Nymune Organ than on skills or talents, though, based on the fact that 2 reactions a turn is awesome.
Beyond starting xp, I like the Stalker clan, that gives concealment as a free action usable even while observed, but there is one that gives a bonus to ballistic skill, which sounds like the one you'd prefer for your character.
2 reactions mean? and ill go with the stalker then so i can basically turn invisible on the spot :3
and thank you for all your help
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we dunno wot you been told,
our Stormboyz here are mighty bold,
we da best of da lot,
we make yins look like grots
 I am White/Black Take The Magic Dual Colour Test - Beta today! <small>Created with Rum and Monkey's Personality Test Generator.</small>I'm both orderly and selfish. I act mostly for my own benefit, but I respect and help my community - Specially when it helps me. At best, I'm loyal and dedicated; at worst, I'm elitist and shrewd. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 17:15:21
Subject: starting warhammer 40k rouge trader and need help starting
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Deadly Dire Avenger
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Normally, you can dodge or parry 1 attack between your turn and your next turn. If you get attacked a second time, you take it.
With Hyperactive Nymune Organ, you can dodge or parry a second attack.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 17:37:27
Subject: starting warhammer 40k rouge trader and need help starting
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Same with the Leap Aside talent.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 17:41:20
Subject: Re:starting warhammer 40k rouge trader and need help starting
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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so with all of those i can technically dodge 3 attacks?
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we dunno wot you been told,
our Stormboyz here are mighty bold,
we da best of da lot,
we make yins look like grots
 I am White/Black Take The Magic Dual Colour Test - Beta today! <small>Created with Rum and Monkey's Personality Test Generator.</small>I'm both orderly and selfish. I act mostly for my own benefit, but I respect and help my community - Specially when it helps me. At best, I'm loyal and dedicated; at worst, I'm elitist and shrewd. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 17:44:09
Subject: starting warhammer 40k rouge trader and need help starting
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jbsnv wrote:i would like to be a kroot mercenary that has the equipment to deal with anything, but is good sniper with a pulse rifle, can kill groups with auto pistols and can go toe - to - toe with any enemy in agility and melee
can you help me what i should do to to make him this way? with skills and what not and im a noob so can you tell me with what does what?
also for sake of dice rolls lets say i just roll advrige dice rolls
Ok. Not trying to be a turkey here...
In Rogue Trader- You don't want to do this. Seriously, in all honesty.
Not trying to discourage you, but your just going to end up getting wacked as fast as you get into the thick with something. As a suggestion, pick one or the other as a start off, add in the extra bennies as you gain a few levels, then top off, later. Don't try to do it all in one go, or you are missing out on part of the fun. Especially when your sniper loses an eye, or you lose an arm when you are supposed to be a hand to hand combat specialist.
Start out with your base Kroot, then add in what you can from breeding and the side stuff, then add in the exras in a few of the skills, not all- so you can at least have half a chance, and then as you progress, strip search, and eat your way to bonus material. Find yourself that sniper rilfe, upgrade that pulse rifle with some extras , change out that auto pistol for a las, or Bolt, stuff like that.
A basic new character doesn't start out like you want to do here. You start out with just enough to get yourself into trouble, then you have to RP a bunch of the secondary stuff in and earn the points to push that guy to how you want him to be.
As a New player- not a noob, you want to take your time, get used to the system, and have some leeway. If you try to do all of what you ask, your guy winds up dead, and you get hot, because it took at least an hour and a half to make that guy, and he got greased or maimed real good the first time in a scrap. Stuff doesn't fight the way you would think it does in the RP game... it fights a lot worse.
Depending oh how your GM is, as well? well- lets just say that the 4ok environment is a harsh teacher.
GL to you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 17:48:37
Subject: starting warhammer 40k rouge trader and need help starting
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Also what skills you use depends on the GM. But most GMs ask you to roll awareness a lot in my experience... bso that's really the most vital skill as far as passing the most tests goes. But usually all that matters is that at least one person passes it. Not always though, as I said, it depends on the GM.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 17:52:01
Subject: starting warhammer 40k rouge trader and need help starting
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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Grot 6 wrote:jbsnv wrote:i would like to be a kroot mercenary that has the equipment to deal with anything, but is good sniper with a pulse rifle, can kill groups with auto pistols and can go toe - to - toe with any enemy in agility and melee
can you help me what i should do to to make him this way? with skills and what not and im a noob so can you tell me with what does what?
also for sake of dice rolls lets say i just roll advrige dice rolls
Ok. Not trying to be a turkey here...
In Rogue Trader- You don't want to do this. Seriously, in all honesty.
Not trying to discourage you, but your just going to end up getting wacked as fast as you get into the thick with something. As a suggestion, pick one or the other as a start off, add in the extra bennies as you gain a few levels, then top off, later. Don't try to do it all in one go, or you are missing out on part of the fun. Especially when your sniper loses an eye, or you lose an arm when you are supposed to be a hand to hand combat specialist.
Start out with your base Kroot, then add in what you can from breeding and the side stuff, then add in the exras in a few of the skills, not all- so you can at least have half a chance, and then as you progress, strip search, and eat your way to bonus material. Find yourself that sniper rilfe, upgrade that pulse rifle with some extras , change out that auto pistol for a las, or Bolt, stuff like that.
A basic new character doesn't start out like you want to do here. You start out with just enough to get yourself into trouble, then you have to RP a bunch of the secondary stuff in and earn the points to push that guy to how you want him to be.
As a New player- not a noob, you want to take your time, get used to the system, and have some leeway. If you try to do all of what you ask, your guy winds up dead, and you get hot, because it took at least an hour and a half to make that guy, and he got greased or maimed real good the first time in a scrap. Stuff doesn't fight the way you would think it does in the RP game... it fights a lot worse.
Depending oh how your GM is, as well? well- lets just say that the 4ok environment is a harsh teacher.
GL to you.
thanks alot for the info.
so if that's the case what would be the easiest thing to start as?
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we dunno wot you been told,
our Stormboyz here are mighty bold,
we da best of da lot,
we make yins look like grots
 I am White/Black Take The Magic Dual Colour Test - Beta today! <small>Created with Rum and Monkey's Personality Test Generator.</small>I'm both orderly and selfish. I act mostly for my own benefit, but I respect and help my community - Specially when it helps me. At best, I'm loyal and dedicated; at worst, I'm elitist and shrewd. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 17:58:54
Subject: starting warhammer 40k rouge trader and need help starting
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Deadly Dire Avenger
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Awareness - Kroot also get Unnatural Perception at rank 2, boosting awareness again.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 18:03:29
Subject: starting warhammer 40k rouge trader and need help starting
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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Poison wrote:Awareness - Kroot also get Unnatural Perception at rank 2, boosting awareness again.
if i can live to rank 2 that is
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we dunno wot you been told,
our Stormboyz here are mighty bold,
we da best of da lot,
we make yins look like grots
 I am White/Black Take The Magic Dual Colour Test - Beta today! <small>Created with Rum and Monkey's Personality Test Generator.</small>I'm both orderly and selfish. I act mostly for my own benefit, but I respect and help my community - Specially when it helps me. At best, I'm loyal and dedicated; at worst, I'm elitist and shrewd. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 18:10:48
Subject: starting warhammer 40k rouge trader and need help starting
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Deadly Dire Avenger
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Yes, surviving is a trick. I play an Arch Militant in my RT game, and I like to hide behind other, more gung-ho PC's, and then clean up with my Multi-melta. =)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 18:16:39
Subject: starting warhammer 40k rouge trader and need help starting
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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Poison wrote:Yes, surviving is a trick. I play an Arch Militant in my RT game, and I like to hide behind other, more gung-ho PC's, and then clean up with my Multi-melta. =)
so you just run around hideing behind " tank " pc and fire your mm on those sad saps :3
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we dunno wot you been told,
our Stormboyz here are mighty bold,
we da best of da lot,
we make yins look like grots
 I am White/Black Take The Magic Dual Colour Test - Beta today! <small>Created with Rum and Monkey's Personality Test Generator.</small>I'm both orderly and selfish. I act mostly for my own benefit, but I respect and help my community - Specially when it helps me. At best, I'm loyal and dedicated; at worst, I'm elitist and shrewd. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 18:37:23
Subject: starting warhammer 40k rouge trader and need help starting
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Deadly Dire Avenger
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I wouldn't call them Tank PC's. More like "Cannon Fodder" we usually bring a few armsmen, and I make em stand in front and take the gunfire
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 20:10:54
Subject: Re:starting warhammer 40k rouge trader and need help starting
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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your a nice person to play with i guess
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we dunno wot you been told,
our Stormboyz here are mighty bold,
we da best of da lot,
we make yins look like grots
 I am White/Black Take The Magic Dual Colour Test - Beta today! <small>Created with Rum and Monkey's Personality Test Generator.</small>I'm both orderly and selfish. I act mostly for my own benefit, but I respect and help my community - Specially when it helps me. At best, I'm loyal and dedicated; at worst, I'm elitist and shrewd. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 20:12:52
Subject: starting warhammer 40k rouge trader and need help starting
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Personally we use our techpriest/explorator for meat shielding.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 20:30:52
Subject: Re:starting warhammer 40k rouge trader and need help starting
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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what does he have to make him so tanky
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we dunno wot you been told,
our Stormboyz here are mighty bold,
we da best of da lot,
we make yins look like grots
 I am White/Black Take The Magic Dual Colour Test - Beta today! <small>Created with Rum and Monkey's Personality Test Generator.</small>I'm both orderly and selfish. I act mostly for my own benefit, but I respect and help my community - Specially when it helps me. At best, I'm loyal and dedicated; at worst, I'm elitist and shrewd. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 20:31:49
Subject: starting warhammer 40k rouge trader and need help starting
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Powered armor, lots of implants, very high level techpriest upgrades that give him natural armor which stacks with normal armor, and a ludicrously high toughness. But he's at about 27k xp or so, and, frankly, he's more machine than cyborg.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 20:34:00
Subject: starting warhammer 40k rouge trader and need help starting
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Tech Priests get +1 armor for every point of Machine they have, they are strong and can wear power armour, and they can get synth muscles for Unnatural Strength and Unnatural Toughness.
In my Black Crusade game, my Chaos Space Marine Sorcerer has an 18 soak (10 AP, 8 TB, and this is just starting out) and the Heretek has (8 AP, 1 Machine, 6 TB), and he'll pass me by in a few XP.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 20:39:14
Subject: starting warhammer 40k rouge trader and need help starting
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Mind you, in the same campaign my sniper needs to pass a stealth skill roll of 122 for a +0 test.
She can sneak past anything short of a psyker using detect life.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 21:05:48
Subject: Re:starting warhammer 40k rouge trader and need help starting
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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damn thats crazy Automatically Appended Next Post: is there an online community of Rogue Trader where you can play on there or do a demo and show me the ropes?
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we dunno wot you been told,
our Stormboyz here are mighty bold,
we da best of da lot,
we make yins look like grots
 I am White/Black Take The Magic Dual Colour Test - Beta today! <small>Created with Rum and Monkey's Personality Test Generator.</small>I'm both orderly and selfish. I act mostly for my own benefit, but I respect and help my community - Specially when it helps me. At best, I'm loyal and dedicated; at worst, I'm elitist and shrewd. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 22:46:37
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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There's people running games online at least. However, my GM doesn't recruit from this forum...
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog |
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