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HQ:190pts


(1)Warboss-60pts
Power Klaw-25pts
Attack Squig-15pts
Cybork Body-5pts

(1)Weirdboy-55pts
Warphead-30pts


ELITES:480pts


(15)Tankbustas-225pts
Nob w/ Bosspole-15pts
x2 Tankhammers-Free

(15)Tankbustas-225pts
Nob w/ Bosspole-15pts
x2 Tankhammers-Free


TROOPS:1329pts


(10)Nobz-200pts
Painboy-30pts
x10 Cybork Bodies-50pts
x9 Big Choppas-45pts
Waaagh! Banner-15pts
Bosspole-5pts

(30)Choppa Boyz-180pts
Nob w/ PK,Bosspole-40pts

(30)Choppa Boyz-180pts
Nob w/ PK,Bosspole-40pts

(30)Choppa Boyz-180pts
Nob w/ PK,Bosspole-40pts

(30)Choppa Boyz-180pts
Nob w/ PK,Bosspole-40pts

(28)Grotz-84pts
x2 Runtherds-20pts


TOTAL:1999pts



What do you guys think?

Foot slogging nobs are hard to get into a fight where they will truly be worth their points. On that topic obviously on bikes they become awesome.

Foot slogging boys need a kff to stay alive.

Tank bustas could do with a klaw maybe a hammer or two and definitely bomb squigs.

Big shootas and shoota boys are what you are looking for. I would accept big shootas and sluggas boyz just as AOBR guys are cheap.

Even then you'll only win by hoping the enemy can not possibly kill that many models, when out of cover boyz die a little bit too easily.
Then you will get bored playing that many models.

Opps! I meant to include the tankhammers I forgot lol, I don't think the squigs will be necessary, and don't have the room for points (30 shots something will hit.) The nobz will be behind the boyz so they're in cover and I'm not too worried about them. A KFF will only cover the boyz within the 6" perameter and we're talking 120 boyz, not worth the points IMO. The grots will do some covering for the boyz. Yes, my opponent cannot possibly kill that many models before I can reach him, and that's the point! EVERYTHING is footloggy about this army and that's the tactic. Run up, Waaagh!, and clobber da lot (with enough tankbusting for those pesky Land Raiders and Leman Russ's).

I believe the kff covers units not models within 6".

Your not meant to post individual upgrade costs, just unit totals.

Kendowned wrote:Your not meant to post individual upgrade costs, just unit totals.

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Good army list, but unless you're against lots of tanks (e.g Imperial Guard) cut out a squad of tankbustas and put in a cheap(ish) transport for the nobs then give 'em an extra Waaagh! Banner and a Power Klaw. If any spare points, get a big gunz battery. Good choice with the tankhammers though.

This looks like a fun foot-slogging list. I'm not sure if the Tank Bustas will be worth it, but it'd be fun to try it out a few times and see.

The only thing I'm really confused about is the Warphead. Why not a KFF Mek?

I'd also give at least ONE Nob in the Nob squad a Power Klaw. 9 Big Choppas is pretty cool for such a large group of Nobz, I like it. The Power Klaw is to give them some killing power in case they run into Terminators or a Vehicle they can't hurt with Big Choppas, like a Dreadnaught.

I'd give the Warboss Evy armour and an Cybork body

souplljk wrote:I believe the kff covers units not models within 6".

Not in 6th edition. Cover saves only for the individual models in cover. KFF grants a 5+ cover save.

pazukei wrote:

souplljk wrote:I believe the kff covers units not models within 6".

Not in 6th edition. Cover saves only for the individual models in cover. KFF grants a 5+ cover save.

It grants the any friendly ork models with a 5+ cover. As long as the modle within the 6" radious of the KFF it recieves a 5+ cover if it doesnt have a save availiable thats better than 5+.


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For the list above, drop the weirdboy for a big mek with KFF as this will help you while footslogging.
Dont take sluggas in 6th ed. Shoota boys are better all around. They can shoot twice as many shots at 18" range, 6" better than a slugga, and with those shots have better chance at softening up a unit before they charge and have a better chance for more hits/wounds in overwatch before they get charged.

The FAQ clearly states UNITS within 6'' not models.
Without kff you will have too many dead ork boyz as they rush out of terrain towards the enemy and objectives.

If you read further it also clarifies vehicles. Units + vehicles= modles.

drop the tankbustas and take stormboyz, rush them first turn and by moving12+D6 and you might get the 2D6 charge of first turn, besides that it makes your opponent have to kill the stormboyz while the rest of your army moves forward. basicly sacrifice the 40 stormboys for the 120 boyz and nobz to get to H2H. This is also providing cover save and 4 Str 9 atks from nobz with PK on vehicles hurts people more than they realize.

I honestly think a listlike this would be better with sluggas. He is not trying to shoot them, he is trying to assault them.

With the shooting you will kill models to stop you from being able to charge. That could/is a bad thing. I do agree that a KFF would be a bit better. And it would be a simple swap as there points are the same. I like the idea of nobs on foot. Makes a nice clean up unit that should survive pretty much the whole way acrossed the field. I do however think they don't need all the BChoppa's. I would give them a couple PK and thats it for weapons. The banner and pole is a must along with the CBB's.

Anyways, not my style of list for Orks, but I think it will do fine.

 Gutstuf Ugfang wrote:
If you read further it also clarifies vehicles. Units + vehicles= modles.

That seems like an unusual interpretation. Vehicles are not units, unless they are in a squadron, that's why they clarified that in the following sentence. Because it said units and not models in the preceding sentence, the whole unit gains the 5+ cover save. Models make up units, not the other way around. At least this is the interpretation that seems to be generally accepted here, and in my LGS. Is there a topic on this in YMDC?

EDIT: Heres a link to it http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/459384.page#4480753

Its not my intreptation of the rule its in the faq. It first list units then later it faqs the KFF for vehicles.


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"A kustom force field gives all units within 6" of the mek a cover save of 5+. Friendly vehicles within 6" are counted as being obscured and have a 5+ cover save."
Hence why i said units + vehicles = models, not models in the context of individual models inside the KFF bubble get the cover save.

Pg 3 of the BRB under units. "A unit usually consists of several models that have banded together, but a single, powerful model, such as a lone character, a tank, a war engine or a rampaging monster, is also considered to be a unit in its own right."

So by that I take vehicles such as walkers or tanks to be units as well.

What the FAQ does is set a example as it says friendly vehicles so it by passes this units rule normally.

FAQ:"A kustom force field gives all units within 6" of the mek a cover save of 5+. Friendly vehicles within 6" are counted as being obscured and have a 5+ cover save."
Hence why i said units + vehicles = models, not models in the context of individual models inside the KFF bubble get the cover save.

Fair one, that makes more sense. So to clarify, only the vehicles in a squadron who are in the bubble receive the save, but all models in a unit which has at least one model in the bubble receive cover saves?

yes.