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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/13 04:48:30
Subject: Scoring vehicles from both sides at the same objective - points all around?
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Tough-as-Nails Ork Boy
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Scenario:
Playing Big Guns Never Tire, a Leman Russ and a Battlewagon (bought as Heavy Support) both drive up to the same objective.
At the end of the game neither is Immobilised, and there are no other units from either side near enough to contest.
Three points for both, for controlling the same objective!
Relevant quotes:
BRB, p. 123, Controlling objectives wrote:You control an objective if there is at least one model from one of your scoring units, and no models from enemy denial units, within - -
BRB, p. 123, Denial Units wrote:- - all units are denial units, save for a few exceptions given below:
* If it is a vehicle - -
BRB, p. 128, Heavy Metal wrote: Unlike other missions, in Big Gun Never Tire, your heavy support units are scoring units - - even your vehicles are scoring units - -
Did I miss anything?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/13 04:50:26
Subject: Scoring vehicles from both sides at the same objective - points all around?
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Thinking of Joining a Davinite Loge
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From the provided snippets it would look like each side would get 3 points. Personally I would just give both sides 0 as a contest. In the end its the same thing.
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Jidmah wrote:That's why I keep my enemies close and my AOBR rulebook closer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/13 04:54:28
Subject: Scoring vehicles from both sides at the same objective - points all around?
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Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver
Oklahoma
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Nope. Checked it myself and it looks like you can score but not deny objectives in the Big guns never tire mission with vehicles.
chalk up yet one more thing for the new FAQ!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/13 05:03:00
Subject: Scoring vehicles from both sides at the same objective - points all around?
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Tough-as-Nails Ork Boy
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According to the BRB, you need double victory points for a crushing victory (p. 122), both sides getting the points makes crushing victories more difficult to achieve.
Where it matter more, is when a scoring vehicle and an infantry scoring unit meet up at the same objective.
Because the vehicle isn't a Denial Unit despite being a Scoring Unit, the points go to the infantry unit.
Could be even RAI for all I know...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/13 05:09:00
Subject: Scoring vehicles from both sides at the same objective - points all around?
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Killer Klaivex
Oceanside, CA
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Warbrucey wrote:According to the BRB, you need double victory points for a crushing victory (p. 122), both sides getting the points makes crushing victories more difficult to achieve.
Where it matter more, is when a scoring vehicle and an infantry scoring unit meet up at the same objective.
Because the vehicle isn't a Denial Unit despite being a Scoring Unit, the points go to the infantry unit.
Could be even RAI for all I know...
So Tanks score, but infantry are more scoring.
Works for me.
-Matt
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/13 05:19:53
Subject: Scoring vehicles from both sides at the same objective - points all around?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Fits with the rest of the rules in how they are constructed - vehicles have massive drawbacks in all areas of the game, compared to 5th
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/13 07:13:53
Subject: Scoring vehicles from both sides at the same objective - points all around?
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Dakka Veteran
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RAW, it's exactly as you've said:
Vehicles, even if Scoring, are not Denial units.
Personally I think this is yet another oversight from GW and will likely be changed when FAQ arrives.
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