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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/15 22:50:38
Subject: How would I make enemies Abbadon hope?
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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I believe I may be picking up these following models second-hand from a friend of mine: 1 Abbadon the Despoiler 1 Ahriman 40 Khorne Beserkers 20 Plague Marines 10 Thousand Sons 15 Chosen Chaos Space Marines 1 Defiler What tactics, armylists, etc could I use to make my enemies Abbadon hope? I am quite new to Chaos.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/08/15 23:03:23
Why buy expensive 40k at retail price?
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/469464.page#4727302
See the link above and get decent 40k armies for a decent price.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/15 22:59:25
Subject: How would I make enemies Abbadon hope?
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
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Wait another month.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/15 23:03:11
Subject: How would I make enemies Abbadon hope?
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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GreyChaos wrote:Wait another month.
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Why buy expensive 40k at retail price?
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/469464.page#4727302
See the link above and get decent 40k armies for a decent price.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/15 23:16:30
Subject: Re:How would I make enemies Abbadon hope?
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
In your squads, doing the chainsword tango
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Oh god that pun hurts...
also- wait another month. IF you build an army now and a new codex comes out (which it does in mmm about a month  ), you might find yourself disappointed with what you've assembled, and you may....
...Abbadon hope
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/15 23:21:40
Subject: Re:How would I make enemies Abbadon hope?
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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Jihallah wrote:Oh god that pun hurts...
also- wait another month. IF you build an army now and a new codex comes out (which it does in mmm about a month  ), you might find yourself disappointed with what you've assembled, and you may....
...Abbadon hope
OOOH. New Chaos Marine Codex coming out... didn't think of that... well, thanks for the heads up!
btw, gotta love those signatures.
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Why buy expensive 40k at retail price?
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/469464.page#4727302
See the link above and get decent 40k armies for a decent price.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/15 23:28:43
Subject: How would I make enemies Abbadon hope?
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Agile Revenant Titan
In the Casualty section of a Blood Bowl dugout
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You should really stop with these puns guys, else the thread will descend into utter Chaos.
Ahem
Anyway, what the other posters have said is true. I'd wait for the new codex. That said, if you're itching to get started, purchasing a Land Raider would be a good start.
It's rather unlikely that GW would stray from the standard Land Raider rules, save for perhaps giving it a rule which makes it go crazy and do donuts or something. The LR could be used to transport those Beserkers you have into the fray and, if that fails, some Terminators or Chosen would work nicely with it too. I also reckon it's unlikely Chosen will get nerfed, due to them featuring in the new Starter Set.
So yeah, don't hold me to it, but a Land Raider is a decent bet if you really want to get started.
But basically I posted to join in with the puns
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/16 00:40:14
Subject: How would I make enemies Abbadon hope?
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
In your squads, doing the chainsword tango
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The Shadow wrote:You should really stop with these puns guys, else the thread will descend into utter Chaos.
Ahem
But basically I posted to join in with the puns
If it descends into utter chaos, does that mean chaos is begin to grow again?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/16 00:46:24
Subject: How would I make enemies Abbadon hope?
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Fixture of Dakka
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I'd hold off on the land raider for now. Everyone seems to be stocking up on flyers instead.
PS - Ahriman ber that there are going to be some pretty cool walkers coming out as well, if you kharne wait another month.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/16 03:33:45
Subject: How would I make enemies Abbadon hope?
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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..... you guys are Fabiusly bad at makes puns...... I should just ig-nur--(gle) you guys..... Anyways... thanks for the heads off- I mean up about the new Codex. I guess I'll keep the models and strap myself in until a month passes. As always.... BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/08/16 03:34:05
Why buy expensive 40k at retail price?
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/469464.page#4727302
See the link above and get decent 40k armies for a decent price.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/16 03:53:21
Subject: Re:How would I make enemies Abbadon hope?
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
In your squads, doing the chainsword tango
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Those are some  Ing bad puns.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/16 04:03:28
Subject: Re:How would I make enemies Abbadon hope?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I thought the puns were pretty Tauriffic myself...
Out of what you got there, it looks like you have a nice 1250 point army to play with. I would add a Land raider and get some games in. get used to their feel.
They are getting a new codex soon, but they are marines. the basic tactics will most likely carry over from one book to the next.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/16 04:07:52
Subject: How would I make enemies Abbadon hope?
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Beserkers: Good for assaulting via rhino rush.
T-Sons: great objective sitters with their AP3 bolters
Plague Marines: good for objective sitting and drive-by's with their extra heavy/special weapons
Chosen: Infiltrate with special weapons to make your opponent potentially have a not-too-good start, bit too expensive for what they do though (enjoy it while it lasts, rumored to lose infiltrate). Probably better played as regular marines or something :/
Defiles: from what I've seen, best in pairs lobbing shots at your opponent. I suppose you can do it with one but don't expect anything amazing to happen.
Abaddon: Currently has issues as he isn't as killy as he was in 5th Ed. possibly best foot slogging with your Zerkers. However, if you can, get some Termi's to stick him with (I prefer MoT for them but everyone has different preferences)
Ahriman; Not much experience with him, can't help you there.
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Gods? There are no gods. Merely existences, obstacles to overcome.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/16 04:18:15
Subject: How would I make enemies Abbadon hope?
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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King Pariah wrote:Beserkers: Good for assaulting via rhino rush.
T-Sons: great objective sitters with their AP3 bolters
Plague Marines: good for objective sitting and drive-by's with their extra heavy/special weapons
Chosen: Infiltrate with special weapons to make your opponent potentially have a not-too-good start, bit too expensive for what they do though (enjoy it while it lasts, rumored to lose infiltrate). Probably better played as regular marines or something :/
Defiles: from what I've seen, best in pairs lobbing shots at your opponent. I suppose you can do it with one but don't expect anything amazing to happen.
Abaddon: Currently has issues as he isn't as killy as he was in 5th Ed. possibly best foot slogging with your Zerkers. However, if you can, get some Termi's to stick him with (I prefer MoT for them but everyone has different preferences)
Ahriman; Not much experience with him, can't help you there.
Thanks for the general guideline, I appreciate it... sets some basic Rules as to how I should play Chaos Mahreens. Well, I hope the new Codex doesn't turn out to be a Crisis or else I'll have to Move Through some troubling Cover in order to reorganize my traitor scumbags.
also..... feel free to put up bad puns......
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Why buy expensive 40k at retail price?
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/469464.page#4727302
See the link above and get decent 40k armies for a decent price.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/16 05:42:01
Subject: How would I make enemies Abbadon hope?
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
In your squads, doing the chainsword tango
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King Pariah wrote:Beserkers: Good for assaulting via rhino rush.
T-Sons: great objective sitters with their AP3 bolters
Plague Marines: good for objective sitting and drive-by's with their extra heavy/special weapons
Chosen: Infiltrate with special weapons to make your opponent potentially have a not-too-good start, bit too expensive for what they do though (enjoy it while it lasts, rumored to lose infiltrate). Probably better played as regular marines or something :/
Defiles: from what I've seen, best in pairs lobbing shots at your opponent. I suppose you can do it with one but don't expect anything amazing to happen.
Abaddon: Currently has issues as he isn't as killy as he was in 5th Ed. possibly best foot slogging with your Zerkers. However, if you can, get some Termi's to stick him with (I prefer MoT for them but everyone has different preferences)
Ahriman; Not much experience with him, can't help you there.
Bezerkers: Cannot assault out of rhino's
T-Son's- chew marines harder than before, have better saves than cover. Quite strong.
Plague marines- Good all rounders. Suffer from I3 in melee, and cost more than regular marine, but the toughness and double special weapons more than makes up for it. Really solid troops.
CSM- Tac marines that punch harder in melee and can get double special weapons. Good and reliable, cult troops are considered better due to specializing.
Chosen: Nuff said above. They can also use icons to daemonbomb the enemy (summoned lesser daemon blobs)
Defiler- You really want pairs of defilers. They are large targets which doesn't help, but also have medium armor and there is a significant lack of armor in your army. in other words- Every. single. AT weapon will be pointed at it. It will die FAST. You need some more armor for target saturation.
Abaddon: He's still killy. He still beats face. Doesn't slap terminators as hard as before.
Ahriman: Expensive for a mediocre named sorcerer. I'd field him as a normal sorc myself.
P.s these puns are really getting bad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/16 07:36:17
Subject: How would I make enemies Abbadon hope?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Jihallah wrote:announce it in your head like a movie "this year the imperium will kneel to one man, when they...
ABBADON HOPE
I hear the original KILLED at Caennes...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/16 11:52:46
Subject: Re:How would I make enemies Abbadon hope?
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
In your squads, doing the chainsword tango
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I laughed so hard it brought tears to my eyes.
"In a world where one man fails 13 times, but never abaddons hope..."
-edit- I am going to create accounts to give that post the exaltation it deserves.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/16 17:04:19
Subject: Re:How would I make enemies Abbadon hope?
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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I Kharn't believe noone brought this pun up yet. All the other puns were Khorney, after all...
*ahem*
New Codex or not - one way or another, you're going to want a way to get those Berzerkers into combat. 40 of them isn't a bad way to go about it(!), but for smaller games where you can't squeeze them all in, may I suggest a Land Raider.
Now then, more puns, more puns. I'll need enough to make A hriman' couplet...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/16 21:54:44
Subject: How would I make enemies Abbadon hope?
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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We really need to b*tch-slap ourselves and repent for our Taurribly bad puns....
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Why buy expensive 40k at retail price?
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/469464.page#4727302
See the link above and get decent 40k armies for a decent price.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/18 03:53:20
Subject: Re:How would I make enemies Abbadon hope?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Super Ready wrote:I Kharn't believe noone brought this pun up yet. All the other puns were Khorney, after all...
*ahem*
New Codex or not - one way or another, you're going to want a way to get those Berzerkers into combat. 40 of them isn't a bad way to go about it(!), but for smaller games where you can't squeeze them all in, may I suggest a Land Raider.
Now then, more puns, more puns. I'll need enough to make A hriman' couplet...
Ahem....from several posts above:
jy2 wrote:I'd hold off on the land raider for now. Everyone seems to be stocking up on flyers instead.
PS - Ahriman ber that there are going to be some pretty cool walkers coming out as well, if you kharne wait another month.
This is the typhus pun that makes me sick to my stomach and wanna puke putrid pus.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/18 04:03:40
Subject: How would I make enemies Abbadon hope?
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Dour Wolf Priest with Iron Wolf Amulet
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Just Huron all these puns is driving me berzerk. Kharn't you think of up anything better?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/18 04:33:48
Subject: How would I make enemies Abbadon hope?
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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These puns are just maLucius.
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Gods? There are no gods. Merely existences, obstacles to overcome.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/18 05:44:48
Subject: How would I make enemies Abbadon hope?
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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This thread is getting too Defiled.... perhaps as the creator I should take responsibility to Obliterate this.....
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Why buy expensive 40k at retail price?
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/469464.page#4727302
See the link above and get decent 40k armies for a decent price.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/18 05:49:42
Subject: How would I make enemies Abbadon hope?
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Fixture of Dakka
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And you are the Chosen One to do so....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/18 07:02:04
Subject: Re:How would I make enemies Abbadon hope?
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Paladin of the Wall
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You should review your Rubric to see what is required.
 we're horrible people. Don't we have a duty to stop this plague of marine puns?
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From 3++
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/18 07:13:03
Subject: Re:How would I make enemies Abbadon hope?
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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Maybe we should abbadon these puns. If we kharn't then the whole universe will be Defil(er)ed and will desend into utter chaos.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/18 08:34:08
Subject: How would I make enemies Abbadon hope?
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Charging Wild Rider
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Please stop now! I almost CRiEED, when read these puns.
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Looking to trade away 15mm Forged in Battle Pumas (still in the box). |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/18 08:57:25
Subject: Re:How would I make enemies Abbadon hope?
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
In your squads, doing the chainsword tango
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I am weeping tears of blood from the horribleness of these puns. Mine included.
Make it stop
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/18 09:07:37
Subject: How would I make enemies Abbadon hope?
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Sword-Bearing Inquisitorial Crusader
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Well, you can't assault out of rhinos anymore, so khorne berserkers have to be on foot.
You know, they are now land raiders.
Tears of blood? emo marines? Angry zerkers in emo positions? Do we call those movies...
Tear 'zerkers?
Edit: Make it stop he says. To stop khorne rush, you need to pop the rhinos.
They just won't stop...until you pop.
My elite marines rolled scout after I deployed them! But they suck, because I can't use scout to outflank after I deploy them. Damn it, I can't control them, they must be possessed.
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"There is no limit to the human spirit, but sometimes I wish there was."
Customers ask me what army I play in 40k. Wrong Question. The only army I've never played is orks.
The Connoisseur of Crap.
Knowing is half the battle. But it is only half. Execution...application...performance...now that is the other half.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/18 09:30:39
Subject: Re:How would I make enemies Abbadon hope?
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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I'm trying to stop the puns, but I just kharn't!
But, yeah rhino rush is no more, so 'zerkers + landraider
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/18 10:06:27
Subject: Re:How would I make enemies Abbadon hope?
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
In your squads, doing the chainsword tango
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we need a mod to kill this.
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