Menoth Colossal

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**Thanatos_elNyx**

I don't know if anyone has seen this:
Menoth Colossal

**Elemental**

Looks really nice. Can't see myself buying one as the rules don't really excite me, but hopes are high for the Galleon after seeing it.

**Grey Templar**

I'll get one, eventually.

stupid college.

**baritowned**

Definitely digging the exhaust on the Judicator, it's nice to see them do something different.

I might buy one just to paint it...

**happygolucky**

I like it... but it dose have the feel of "IMA FIRING MA LAZER!!!" sort of thing, not saying its a bad thing, in fact I like it but to me i can imagine a few internet Warmahorde memes going around with this in mind haha

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**Grey Templar**

Except in this case its "IMA FIRING MA NIPPLE FLAMERS!!!"

**happygolucky**

Grey Templar wrote:
Except in this case its "IMA FIRING MA NIPPLE FLAMERS!!!"

haha well played, well played

**gunslingerpro**

I actually like it a lot. Alternate color schemes will make it that much better.

**Avro**

Grey Templar wrote:
Except in this case its "IMA FIRING MA NIPPLE FLAMERS!!!"

How about, "MY NIPPLES ARE BURNING WITH ANTICIPATION!!!"

**Chongara**

While I was initially sour on the rules when i first heard them, they've really grown on me. I like everything about the Judicator and can't wait to get my hands on it.

**Time 2 Roll**

I like the look a lot.

**Surtur**

Gimmie.

**Grey Templar**

Anybody actually tried the Judicator out yet?

**Spyder68**

Ive used it with eFeora.

Its not bad, but not great. Its ok for what it does.

I feel i would of had better milage using other models

Judicator 18pts

Redeemer + Templar + Repenter(14pts)can do the same and be more versitile

**Grey Templar**

My guess is its better at higher points.

Doesn't it generate its own Focus too? So you can put more Focus into your other jacks.

**Zid**

This model looks amazing... my buddys getting one. I wanna see him paint it!

**Mordekiem**

Spyder68 wrote:
Ive used it with eFeora.

Its not bad, but not great. Its ok for what it does.

I feel i would of had better milage using other models

Judicator 18pts

Redeemer + Templar + Repenter(14pts)can do the same and be more versitile

It is good against Cryx with all the infantry we like to take. So much fire...

**Spyder68**

Honestly though..

I get more Fire out of a Bonded Redeemer and a Vanquisher then a Judicator.

The "Chain Blast" rule kinda blows.

Redeemer + Vanquisher + 2x Vassel + Choir = 4x 3" Blasts + 2x 4" Blasts
vs
Judicator + Choir + Vassel 6x 3" blasts of which 3x are from Chainblast with a luck chance of hitting.

**Dais**

When I first saw the rules for the judicator it struck me as the weakest colossal since it's offense is hampered by not being able to land direct shots with it's main weapon due to inaccurate. It is so good at anti-infantry that it may force the opponent into a higher armored list and drive itself out of work.

However, I now understand how silly it is to have something like a judicator - possibly with defender's ward on it- that can't be softened up by ranged attacks or weakened by debuff spells. This thing is a defensive brick that knows exactly where it's threats are coming from.

**Chongara**

Dais wrote:
When I first saw the rules for the judicator it struck me as the weakest colossal since it's offense is hampered by not bwing able to land direct shots with it's main weapon due to inaccurate. It is so good at anti-infantry that it may force the opponent into a higher armored list and drive itself out of work.

However, I now understand how silly it is to have something like a judicator - possibly with defender's ward on it- that can't be softened up by ranged attacks or weakened by debuff spells. This thing is a defensive brick that knows exactly where it's threats are coming from.

This mirrors my feelings in general.

What I like about it is that it brings just enough of everything to the party.It's honestly not very cost effective at any one job. However it's ability to transition between roles at different stages of the game is great. Heck, pair it with a Reckoner and your problems with direct hitting go away against heavies not from Cryx or Circle. With pSevvy and Flare you're hitting an an effective RAT 8 (5[Base] - 4[Inaccurate] +2[Choir] +2[Aiming] +2[Flare] + 1 [Eye of Menoth]), with other casters RAT 7 is perfectly respectable against DEF 10-13. You're generally going to be doing at least 1 Round of shooting with your reckoner before it engages anyway, so it's not like it's just dead weight you're packing to boost the Judicator. The reckoner is a genuinely awesome 'Jack you'd bring anyway, that just happens to sygnerize well with the big guy to allow a degree of long-range firepower we couldn't put on heavies before.

It hits like the Avatar (11pts)
Bombards infantry like a pair of redeemers (12pts)
It hits heavies at range like... nothing else really comparable in the faction.

I think it's going to be useful, but take some time to figure out how to utilize it. It's also nice it does the bombarding at zero focus, with a free boost. Redeemers are little piggies and focus always feels tight to me even with playing high-focus casters. Huge bases are certainly nice for hiding squishy casters too.