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Situation:
Leman Russ fires battle cannon at one of my vehicles next to a bastion. It scatters to a different vehicle wholly behind the bastion. The leman russ can't see anything of the vehicle that's hit. Since it's not a barrage weapon LoS applies.

Which facing do we use? Do I get a cover save? Do I get the +1 for the facing being wholly out of line sight (although that only seems to apply when you can see a different facing at the same time)? Can the vehicle even be hit?

It's not like wounds against infantry, which have allocation rules and where you can argue that you can't allocate out of LoS so no wounds are caused. Do you 'allocate' glancing/penentrating hits the same way?

In my view the vehicle can be hit as the scatter rules are supposed to account for ricochets and blasting through stuff thats in the way.

You will get a cover save as the vehicle that has been hit is in cover from the firing unit. The +1 thing could possibly be debateable, but seems reasonable that you get the better save as the conditions for it are met.

Here's the RAW for the situation:

The rules actually don't have any strict proviso about not causing damage on vehicles out of line of sight like they do with regular units. Yes, you must be able to see the unit you're firing at with the blast, but if it scatters and ends up over a vehicle that is completely out of LOS there is nothing I can find in the rules that says this damage wouldn't be resolved normally.

Now, when you get to taking a cover save, the boosted +1 cover save does require the firer to see a different arc of the vehicle than they're facing (and yes, you always use the Armor Arc that the firing model is in regardless of where the blast ends up)...which doesn't apply in this situation (as you can't see any part of the vehicle being hit). Although, the Armor Facing that the firer is in is most definitely at least 25% obscured, so a normal obscurement save would be used RAW.

So that's the RAW:

A vehicle out of LOS can be hit and damaged by an errant blast and it gets a regular obscured cover save.


However, I think RAI it should probably get the boosted cover save in this case. That's how I'd lobby to play it regardless of the RAW.

Yeah, in the end we diced it and decided I got the normal obscured bonus + 1, since we didn't want discuss what kind of cover a Bastion provides either.