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There have been a few very interesting posts centreing around what would happen if a primarch returned and how the Imperium would react to this. My question is slightly different.
How would a primarch react to his vastly changed chapter(a long period of time will have passed) and would both sides be able to interact with each other? I can't see it being plain sailing as the primarch would have lost all that was familiar and the chapter(especially the new masters) would be very wary of their famed leader, simply because they will have built up an impression of the character of the primarch and as you know meeting your heroes may well turn into a disappointment.
The 2 that come to mind for me are Guilleman and Johnson. I think Guilleman may have the easier ride and would adjust quickly and his chapter would follow, and a little blindly maybe? . I also think that he would start trying to control the imperium and with the Ultras successor chapters in support, he may well do so.
In the case of the Dark Angels Johnson is a more complicated character and perhaps cause confusion with the present leadership, what would his objectives be? I can't see him pursuing the fallen apart from Cipher(even then for some reason I think Cipher would return to the chapter). Would he bother about the Imperium? Personally I don;t think he would. The chapter might even be left in disarray as to how they go forward; what are their goals/objectives with Johnson back in command?

Slipstream wrote:
...simply because they will have built up an impression of the character of the primarch and as you know meeting your heroes may well turn into a disappointment.

I think this is the main focus of 40k Space Marines, attempting to live up to the hype of the legend of their Primarchs, who have been elevated to demigodhood in the eyes of their chapters. Introducing flawed characters back into the Primarch position would not work well in the setting so it won't happen.

Suddenly I have an image of the White Scars meeting up with their Primarch.

Jaghatai Khan: Lost? I wasn't lost! I was on vacation! Man let me tell you, those Dark Eldar girls REALLY know how to turn a man on!
White Scars: *Horrified Expressions*
Jaghatai Khan: Just kidding. Thanks for rescuing me from those evil, horrific monsters.
*Mimics making a phone call and mouths to a hidden Dark Eldar* Call me!

Leman Russ might have a decent time of it...
It's not like the SW have changed all that much.

Slipstream wrote:
There have been a few very interesting posts centreing around what would happen if a primarch returned and how the Imperium would react to this. My question is slightly different.
How would a primarch react to his vastly changed chapter(a long period of time will have passed) and would both sides be able to interact with each other? I can't see it being plain sailing as the primarch would have lost all that was familiar and the chapter(especially the new masters) would be very wary of their famed leader, simply because they will have built up an impression of the character of the primarch and as you know meeting your heroes may well turn into a disappointment.
The 2 that come to mind for me are Guilleman and Johnson. I think Guilleman may have the easier ride and would adjust quickly and his chapter would follow, and a little blindly maybe? . I also think that he would start trying to control the imperium and with the Ultras successor chapters in support, he may well do so.
In the case of the Dark Angels Johnson is a more complicated character and perhaps cause confusion with the present leadership, what would his objectives be? I can't see him pursuing the fallen apart from Cipher(even then for some reason I think Cipher would return to the chapter). Would he bother about the Imperium? Personally I don;t think he would. The chapter might even be left in disarray as to how they go forward; what are their goals/objectives with Johnson back in command?

Knowing Lion, his primary goal would probably be to attempt to assume control of the Imperium, at least as far as its forces go. I mean, he really did want that position of Warmaster back in the Heresy.

Plus, he would really not like being under the thumb of the High Lords of Terra.

As for the Fallen, while i doubt he would be open to the rest of the Imperium about it, I think he's too pragmatic to focus on keeping chasing down traitors as a priority, so he might make the Dark Angels stop suddenly leaving in the middle of battle to chase a Fallen sighting half way across the galaxy. If there's any reason he would have to chase the Fallen, it would probably be due to the insult of his pride.

 purplefood wrote:
Leman Russ might have a decent time of it...
It's not like the SW have changed all that much.

They are probably drinking much more because of the soul chrushing imperium....

 DMajiko wrote:
Suddenly I have an image of the White Scars meeting up with their Primarch.

Jaghatai Khan: Lost? I wasn't lost! I was on vacation! Man let me tell you, those Dark Eldar girls REALLY know how to turn a man on!
White Scars: *Horrified Expressions*
Jaghatai Khan: Just kidding. Thanks for rescuing me from those evil, horrific monsters.
*Mimics making a phone call and mouths to a hidden Dark Eldar* Call me!

Considering how Jaghatai is based off of Genghis, I would not be surprised at all.

What about Vulcan from the salamanders?

I doubt Guilliman would try to assume control of the Imperium. He held that post for a time but specifically wrote the Codex Astartes with the Marines as the defenders of the Imperium, not the leaders. The Lion would probably try to take over, after all in my eyes he's more a traitor than Luther ever was.

_Apollo_ wrote:
What about Vulcan from the salamanders?

They'd likely be a bit annoyed he pissed off with all those cool toys instead of leaving them on Nocturne where they can actually use them...

Guilliman: You imbeciles, it was not meant to be followed to the letter on every occasion!

 FinalAnswer wrote:

Slipstream wrote:
There have been a few very interesting posts centreing around what would happen if a primarch returned and how the Imperium would react to this. My question is slightly different.
How would a primarch react to his vastly changed chapter(a long period of time will have passed) and would both sides be able to interact with each other? I can't see it being plain sailing as the primarch would have lost all that was familiar and the chapter(especially the new masters) would be very wary of their famed leader, simply because they will have built up an impression of the character of the primarch and as you know meeting your heroes may well turn into a disappointment.
The 2 that come to mind for me are Guilleman and Johnson. I think Guilleman may have the easier ride and would adjust quickly and his chapter would follow, and a little blindly maybe? . I also think that he would start trying to control the imperium and with the Ultras successor chapters in support, he may well do so.
In the case of the Dark Angels Johnson is a more complicated character and perhaps cause confusion with the present leadership, what would his objectives be? I can't see him pursuing the fallen apart from Cipher(even then for some reason I think Cipher would return to the chapter). Would he bother about the Imperium? Personally I don;t think he would. The chapter might even be left in disarray as to how they go forward; what are their goals/objectives with Johnson back in command?

Knowing Lion, his primary goal would probably be to attempt to assume control of the Imperium, at least as far as its forces go. I mean, he really did want that position of Warmaster back in the Heresy.

Plus, he would really not like being under the thumb of the High Lords of Terra.

As for the Fallen, while i doubt he would be open to the rest of the Imperium about it, I think he's too pragmatic to focus on keeping chasing down traitors as a priority, so he might make the Dark Angels stop suddenly leaving in the middle of battle to chase a Fallen sighting half way across the galaxy. If there's any reason he would have to chase the Fallen, it would probably be due to the insult of his pride.

Hm, I don't think Lion would won't the throne - during heresy he was just paranoid...

 DarthMarko wrote:

 FinalAnswer wrote:

Slipstream wrote:
There have been a few very interesting posts centreing around what would happen if a primarch returned and how the Imperium would react to this. My question is slightly different.
How would a primarch react to his vastly changed chapter(a long period of time will have passed) and would both sides be able to interact with each other? I can't see it being plain sailing as the primarch would have lost all that was familiar and the chapter(especially the new masters) would be very wary of their famed leader, simply because they will have built up an impression of the character of the primarch and as you know meeting your heroes may well turn into a disappointment.
The 2 that come to mind for me are Guilleman and Johnson. I think Guilleman may have the easier ride and would adjust quickly and his chapter would follow, and a little blindly maybe? . I also think that he would start trying to control the imperium and with the Ultras successor chapters in support, he may well do so.
In the case of the Dark Angels Johnson is a more complicated character and perhaps cause confusion with the present leadership, what would his objectives be? I can't see him pursuing the fallen apart from Cipher(even then for some reason I think Cipher would return to the chapter). Would he bother about the Imperium? Personally I don;t think he would. The chapter might even be left in disarray as to how they go forward; what are their goals/objectives with Johnson back in command?

Knowing Lion, his primary goal would probably be to attempt to assume control of the Imperium, at least as far as its forces go. I mean, he really did want that position of Warmaster back in the Heresy.

Plus, he would really not like being under the thumb of the High Lords of Terra.

As for the Fallen, while i doubt he would be open to the rest of the Imperium about it, I think he's too pragmatic to focus on keeping chasing down traitors as a priority, so he might make the Dark Angels stop suddenly leaving in the middle of battle to chase a Fallen sighting half way across the galaxy. If there's any reason he would have to chase the Fallen, it would probably be due to the insult of his pride.

Hm, I don't think Lion would won't the throne - during heresy he was just paranoid...

Nah, Lion was pretty much buttmad ever since the Emperor chose Horus as Warmaster over him. This went to the extent, that he almost stopped the Heresy before it began, but gave a bunch of essential stuff the traitors needed that he won from them to Perturabo, who promised to support him for his bid as the new Warmaster.

Not to mention, the Lion is too prideful a person to ever let ordinary humans hold rule over him.

I can't see any of the Primarchs kowtowing to the High Lords in any case. They might treat the Fabricator-General and whoever's there for the Navigators as equals, but I doubt they'd be impressed by any of the others.

 DMajiko wrote:
Suddenly I have an image of the White Scars meeting up with their Primarch.

Jaghatai Khan: Lost? I wasn't lost! I was on vacation! Man let me tell you, those Dark Eldar girls REALLY know how to turn a man on!
White Scars: *Horrified Expressions*
Jaghatai Khan: Just kidding. Thanks for rescuing me from those evil, horrific monsters.
*Mimics making a phone call and mouths to a hidden Dark Eldar* Call me!

Y'know, the funniest stuff is always read when i'm in the middle of the library.
But if i had to guess
Vulcan= Salamanders get a bunch of new toys.
Lion=Would be pissed that his chapter turned into even bigger brooding morons then him
Gulliman= Ow, you thought he is dead, He is still alive, Just to ashamed in his chapter to come out
Russ=Lots of Beer, Beards and Broads.