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So am I correct in my reading of the 6e rules (pg. 79) that a unit can only disembark from a transport if it has moved 6" or less that turn, regardless of whether or not it is a "fast" vehicle?

If so, does that mean a trukk has the same max distance as a battlewagon (or any open-topped vehicle) if the player wants to move (in the vehicle), disembark and charge?

in general, you are correct.

6" limitation... Yes.

Which sucks like a black hole, but we're stuck with it

yeah... my recommendation - take your maximum move on the first turn until you're near the enemy.

 Ascalam wrote:
Which sucks like a black hole, but we're stuck with it

And is exactly the same as 5th. You could not disembark over 12" in 5th, fast or not

nosferatu1001 wrote:

 Ascalam wrote:
Which sucks like a black hole, but we're stuck with it

And is exactly the same as 5th. You could not disembark over 12" in 5th, fast or not

Ehhh... no. 5th BRB page 67.

In 5th a fast trasport could move 12", the unit within could then deploy within 2" of the vehicles access points (or hull if open topped). They could then fire as normal after moving. (and assault if an assault vehicle / opentopped.).

I think under the new rules it should be fast transports may move 8 or maybe 9 inches, then they can disembark up to 6".

But ohwell, we work with what we've got.

 Byte wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:

 Ascalam wrote:
Which sucks like a black hole, but we're stuck with it

And is exactly the same as 5th. You could not disembark over 12" in 5th, fast or not

Ehhh... no. 5th BRB page 67.

Page 70 disagrees with you; you couldn't disembark if the fast transport moved (or was about to move) flat out, so Nos is right.

So you lose a whole 2" off your total disembarkation move, but the vehicle hasn't moved as far so can fire more weapons. A fair trade-off, for many vehicles.

But in 5th, 12'' wasn't flat out for a fast vehicle Over 12'' was impossible, sure, (if we don't count the 2'' disembark distance) but what i was saying was that not being able to disembark over 6'' sucks, because we used to be able to do it at 12'', then disembark 2'', then charge.


Look up fast vehicles, and then transports.

Fast vehicles in 5th could still shoot 1 gun at 12'' also, as that was their cruising speed, so no, it's not improved any for Raiders (which have one gun) or trukks (ditto)


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nosferatu1001 wrote:

 Ascalam wrote:
Which sucks like a black hole, but we're stuck with it

And is exactly the same as 5th. You could not disembark over 12" in 5th, fast or not

Except we are arguing that a 6'' max for disembarkation sucks. We used to have 12'', now we have 6''. Fast transport vehicles especially feel the pain.

We aren't saying that we could disembark from flat out, but that our cripplingly short 6th ed disembarkation sucks.

Well before you could move 12, disembark 2 and assault 6, for a max Non-fleet range of 20"

Now you move 6, disembark 6 assault 2d6 for a max range of 24, but an average range of 19. So again non-fleet lost 1". Not that big of a deal.

Now, you want to talk about fleet units getting hosed? I'm all ears.

That's not the point Byte was making. He was suggesting that units used to be able to disembark from a fast vehicle at moved >12", I was refuting that.

The point Nos and I are making is that the speed of a disembarking unit from a fast vehicle relative to a non-fast vehicle is the same as in 5th, so this issue is nothing new.


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jbunny wrote:
Now, you want to talk about fleet units getting hosed? I'm all ears.

Purely assaults fleet units, sure. But my Defiler is quite happy with the change

 Cheexsta wrote:

 Byte wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:

 Ascalam wrote:
Which sucks like a black hole, but we're stuck with it

And is exactly the same as 5th. You could not disembark over 12" in 5th, fast or not

Ehhh... no. 5th BRB page 67.

Page 70 disagrees with you; you couldn't disembark if the fast transport moved (or was about to move) flat out, so Nos is right.

So you lose a whole 2" off your total disembarkation move, but the vehicle hasn't moved as far so can fire more weapons. A fair trade-off, for many vehicles.

Yes, I missed the "over" I just saw 12".

Besides trukks gained 6" to their flat out distance, increasing the two turn threat radius of the unit inside by ~ 6" since 5th.