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Trying to gather some info on the UK Gamesday here. Sadly, PhilBrad is not attending this year, so one source less.
Major news:
- Digital products will not be Apple exclusive, other formats will follow.
- GW Plastic Blood Knights.
- GW Eldar Avatar new sculpt.
- FW Angron (~400 points) plus Abaddon vs Loken shown
- FW more Chaos Legion specific Marines and Contemptors
- IA12 on Necrons nearly done. All Xeno races will get a book eventually (well, only Dark Eldar missing).
- New BigFGun Landraider variant
- New Lightning flyer variant
- Warhammer Quest iPad App
- New IoM artbook (40k)
Art Is Resistance over at Warseer wrote:Well I'm in - design studio is next to GD which I've entered.
(On GW Eldar Avatar)The pose is dynamic, has a wailing doom in sword form, knees bent. Face is a lot more expressive.
Not as big as the FW version, but a little... Chunkier?
Of course it could be just a test piece?
Forgeworld Abaddon!
Legion specific Contemptor Dreads
Legion specific Marines!
Emperors children assault squad, auto cannon squad, command squad....
Same for death guard, sons of horus and world eaters.
Oh, and Loken....
Will post what pics I have later today.
Lightning two spotted
Lightning two is a new imperial variant - large turbine in place of the nose.
HH book is lovely - full army
Lists for 4 legions and there's also mechanicus units in there....
Best book FW have ever done.
Horus Heresy, will be probably be doing an Emperor model.
My sources tell me this is AT LEAST 3 years away. As is Horus. They're saving them 'for something big'.
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Rylanor wasn't on show, and I forgot to get pics of the other two - sorry. Needless to say, they're covered in iconography like the Ven. Chuck. Rylanor's load out has changed from the old ills - he's now got an assault cannon in the rules, rather than t.l hey bolters.
Seems that the legion specific squads will be sold like that to make it easier to purchase full squads.
No bloody EC transfers on show tho ;-(
Mournival and Phoenix Guard are done already and waiting to go.
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New Avatar at the back - is that a 'sorry for doubting you' from Eldargal I hear?
The New Chaos Sculpts
Mutiliators
Abaddon v Loken
Emperor's Children with Autocannon
Sons of Horus Assault Squad
Here's another one for you - the Lightning II:
Baraqiel over at Warseer wrote:So far all i have seen are plastic blood knights for VC.
75hastings69 wrote:Glad these have shown up, think I mentioned these about 12 months back
Eldargal wrote:Stolen from a Facebook page, new IoM artbook:
For Chaos Dwarfs (Tamurkhan book list):
Dan Comeau on Twitter wrote:K'daii Destroyer at Gamesday. A little bit different to what's expected
More pics posted by Da Crusha over at Warseer:
Neil Challis on Twitter wrote:New FW Landraider variant:
Greg Dann on Twitter wrote:Abaddon old school style :
He seems to be fighting Loken.
Angron seems to be around 400 points according to ACE01 over at BOLS.
ACE01 wrote:Not had much chance to look through it yet, but the Primarchs seem powerful but killable. If you're thinking the invincible beings described by the novels, this is not for you. Angron is akin to Mephison on roids, V.High WS and S, High T, W, I, A. Sv 3+4++
Play wise, it's designed 30k vs 30k, with the above force org (unless under 1500), and primarch/super heavy type units (Lords of Battle) above 2k only.
There are 6 Isstvaan III battle missions, using the 6e ruleset and adding a couple of conditions.
Designed for 1500-2500/3000 point games.
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Lots of old school weapon options in here, along with some new squad types to make use of them.
Anyone wondering about Cataphractii Armour - 2+4++ swapping relentless for S&P
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Cow - Horus, Angron, Fulgrim and Mortarion are IN.
PS. Horuswing anyone... One last one...
RanaldLoec over at Warseer wrote:From the forge world seminar
IA 12 is nearly done all the necrons good dream of is in there, confirmed that each xenos race will gets its own book. Looking to add to the existing range rather than cover non codex races.
Sorry squats.
Horus Heresy, will be probably be doing an Emperor model.
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Digital products will NOT be limited to apple products they where just the first.
Android and windows digital media products will follow.
A new Empire FAQ and errata is soon to be released its gone for translation.
Black fire pass art work shows a warhammer squiggoth with howdah.
Tim Walker on Twitter wrote:Abaddon and Loken!
Necron realm of battle board work in progress
Knightly order half brothers mock up
Taken from Twitter without stating the source:
Fraggle 0ver at Warseer wrote:Wow not as much as I expected has found its way back here!
I'll try to redress that somewhat - apologies if I cover stuff someone else has already but I have scan read the thread.
Ok Horus Heresy -
Next book - 'Massacre' - including Iron hands, Salamanders, Night Lords and Word Bearers. In the 2nd seminar Alan Bligh explained a lot about how the Primarch rules were put together - the basic outline for them all is done.
New Mechanicus being worked on - they have a torso done. Mourneival (spelling?) the sons of Horus termies are almost ready and look very cool.
Primarchs/Character boxes - Angron then Abbadon vs Loken, then Fulgrim, the probably Horus. Some will get more than one version.
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Don't expect much from the CSM codex - only two copies where there as far as I saw and it was no photos. They did have some of the rules blown up on posters as the backdrops but it was cultists, and legion troops.
Two new necron craft, one a bomber based on the flyer chassis and one a hovering wheel thing a bit like a cross between a beefed up command barge and General Grevious' ride in Star Wars.
Horus Heresy - They are trying to get to everything most people can dream of, but as with everything it takes time. SOunds like it may be Prospero and Calth in one book and the next book 'Massacre' is the first part of Isstavan V. There will be a concluding part with the other chapters
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Timescale - the hope is the next one will be ready for this time next year at the latest but they have things to finish off first. They are aiming at a release every 6 months ideally (judging from informal chats).
Sorry - Mechanicus - first torso is for a heavy armourered troop, but the name escapes me. Its basically a power armoured robot with a spine and brain inserted. Model will be about Ogryn size.
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I asked Jez Goodwin about Eldar - he is thinking about them (described as always doing that!) - releases will 'fix obvious holes in the range'. They will look to release an Apoc size kit, but in general everyone was quite coy on the timescales.
IA 1 second edition will be like a summary book for Imperial Guard (all rules for current kits in one book). IA12 will be necrons (with a dynasty specific list), DKOK (with a '6th friendly' list) and Minotaurs.
HH - Legion specific contemptors - Death Guard and World Eaters appear to be finished.
Praetorians?
No, let me think. I hadn't heard of them before. They support legion troops in some instances. FW seem to hope to cover a lot of Mechanicum (Dark and Loyal) and are enthusiatic about different types of Skitaari, Knights etc.
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The new necron pylon is an anti-aircraft platform. - it seems there is more to come necron-wise to go with the book.
Seems that DE will be the focus of the next IA book.
Lorenzen over at B&C wrote:next primarch should be fulgrim, mark bedford will be modelling death shroud, next book is 1st half of istvaan 5 and includes night lords, word bearers, iron hands & salamanders.
simon egan wants to do mortarion."
Very interesting indeed, that demolishes the whole Calth book (with Ultramarines and Word Bearers being featured) idea. Great to know the Deathshroud are being scultped though, hopefully that means the bodyguards of other Legions will be done in the future.
Pushkin over at Warseer wrote:There was loads of new stuff but I didn't take any photos!
Heresy models:
Legion Cerebus heavy destroyer
WE & DG legion contemptors
WE with volkite chargers
We with heavy bolters
Ecs with autocannons - I presume this will be new heavy weapon kit
Abbadon duelling loken
Lightening 2 aircraft
SoH justaerin terminators
WF - Wip of bull centaurs, mourngul and another creature which I can't
Remember from monstrous arcanum
For IA 12
Necron flyer
Necron sentry pylon
Necron flying chariot thing
Another necron work in progress
Necron terrain board but I don't know if this will be for sale
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They are not legion cybernetics they are part of the mechanicum called
Mechanicum Thallax cohort. They are
Part of the mechanicum list in the book that loyalists can take as allies. But the list
Is very small,
1hq, Thallax as troops, then aircraft and titans as FA and heavy support.
However there going to more mechanicum as part of the heresy!
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From what I heard both this games Day and last gamesday lots of things are in progress, so whilst the next IA is Definately Necrons - there was a Big poster and necron work in progress on display, the next Couple of books after that are all change.
I think this next one is Necrons v minotours and DKK, don't know if DE is Defo next, the other thong that was talked about was tzeentxh cult raiding a prison asteroid.
What would a Volkite Charger be?
A volkite charger is a heresy era special weapon. Short range assault
Weapon with reasonable strength but low Ap.
Also had world eaters with plasma blasters which are like plasma guns but slightly better!
Crayg over at Warseer wrote:While I was flicking through Jes Goodwin's Dark Eldar sketch book I saw concept art for the Void Raven bomber. "Oops, I should probably have taken that out" he said with a wink.
No pictures were allowed, but it's larger than the raven wing, with an elongated nose. The nose looked like it had a pattern cut out of it, but when I asked Jes he said it was a canopy and the way he imagined it was the pilot would be in the nose section leaning forward like the reaver jetbike models. He wouldn't give anything away on whether a model was due or if such a model would even resemble this sketch.
When I returned in the afternoon to show a friend the sketch had been removed and replaced with a Web Way Gate sketch. I saw the sketch was dated 2006 and asked Jes how far in advance he knew about 6th edition and if this was intended to work as a fortification. He was, again, very tight lipped and only said that anything not already produced was just waiting for a big green GO button.
t-tauri's massive report on the FW seminar with loads of pics:
Spoiler:
t-tauri wrote:Forgeworld seminar.
New Imperial Armour One, second edition. All the FW Guard rules in one. Updated to 6th and without the Navy. Almost ready to go. Proofs on the FW table.
Imperial Armour 12. Necrons., Minotaurs, DKK. Mostly Necron stuff shown. Few more pictures of these from the Forgeworld stand to follow.
Betrayal. Absolutely loads of variants for all the chapters. Some beautiful Heresy era armies on display. The only question is what army to go for. Great homage to the Comms marine from Rogue Trader.
Torso of a mechanicum Thallax (on the right in the picture). Apparently an Ogryn sized power armour with only the central nervous system and a few internal organs running the armour. Think mini dreadnought. It looks as if Mechanicum units will be drip fed out over the heresy series and allow the fielding of Mechanicum allies by certain Legions. Think Thousand Sons in the HH novels.
Abaddon and Loken. A few more shots of Abbie from the FW stand to come. The Loken is a "stunt double" and not any sort of Loken sculpt. Plans to do a number of these characters both from the Heresy books and FW's own characters. Some of the army lists looks a little one-sided if you only allow BL characters so there will be sculpts of the FW guys as well. As Alan Bligh put it it's a bit unfair if the Luna Wolves have five characters to pick from and their opponents have none.
Justaerin termies. Sold armless. Use cataphractai arms and have their own specific weapons pack-with things like the multimelta and the axe. This seems to be a pattern for a lot of the releases.
Tony Cottrell suggested that some of the less martial characters might get their own sculpts as GD Event figures (Malcador was mentioned). All the primarchs will get done sooner or later, some in multiple versions as they change. I have the inkling that Ferrus Mannus might show up with the next volume as he will come with a magnet to attach his head (it was suggested..).
Horus Heresy Book 2-Massacre
Isstvan 5.
Four Legions-Iron Hands, Night Lords, Salamanders and Word Bearers IIRC.
More mechanicum units,
Question and answers. Took about a year to prep for the Heresy book and miniatures.
BFG and Epic support isn't planned by Forgeworld in the near future.
No new GW stuff at all. Only the known CSM on display. None for sale. Has to be said the CSM look better in the flesh than with the red background of the Dwarf photos. The Warpsmith is fantastic.
Night Lords in the second book pleases me immensely
That's if if I remember correctly. Tony Cottrell was fighting a deathmatch with his remote control and kept going backwards and forwards and I was trying to get a photo of each slide. I'm certain of the other three- I'm willing to be corrected on Night Lords.
Not sure of release order but Imperial Armour 1, Imperial Armour 12 and Black Fire Pass would all seem to be further along. Most of the planning for the HH was done as they roughed out the first book though. Judging by the number they sold this will be incredibly popular and the bean counters might have some input..
Brother Garrod wrote:heres part 1 of a ( very brief) rundown of the full crusade list
legion praetor ( equivilant of chapter master , can take rites of war which change how army functions , armoured spearhead , orbital assault, angels wrath or pride of the legion )
legion centurion ( a catch all hq choice , 50 pts basic , but can be upgraded to one of NINE different specialisations . chaplain , master of signals , legion champion , vigilator , librarian , forge lord , primus medicae , siege breaker or moritat )
legion command squad ( pretty much same , 3 man strong with able to add 2 more)
veteran tactical squad ( ten strong only , can add one of a list: fearless , sniper , furious charge, outflank or tank hunters )
legion destroyer squad (uses proscribed weapons , Rad missiles , phosphex bombs )
legion terminator squad ( can count as scoring units)
techmarine covenant (1-3 techmarines as a single elite choice, each can have 4 servitors with them )
apothecarion detatchment ( 1-3 apothecaries ,each MUST be attatched to a squad)
legion dreadnought talon (1-3 dreads )
contemptor dreadnought talon (1-3 contemptors )
legion rapier battery ( 1-3 rapier destroyers , can be upgraded to thudd gun or graviton cannon)
legion tactical squad ( 10-20 marines , fury of the legion special rule )
legion assault squad ( yes , troops choice lol , 10-20 marines , 1 in every 5 marines can take power wep orhand flamer / plasma pistol )
legion siege breaker squad ( 10-20 marines , boarding shields , 1 in every 5 can take a special wep , graviton gun , lascutter etc, all have void hardened armour )
legion tactical support squad (5-10 marines , all marines except sergeant , yes all 9, have flamers , can be upgraded a different special wep. squad cant be used to fill compulsory troops choices )
legion recon squad ( 5-10 marines in power armour , scout , outflank and acute senses , may have sniper rifles . can remove power armour for scout armour and gain move through cover and infiltrate )
rhino ( as before but can take pintle mounted h. bolter , h. flamer or havoc launcher )
drop pod ( unchanged )
thats hq , elites and troops , ill do fast attack , heavy support and ' gods of war , in a bit
Pirate Vampire Counts - WIP
Feastmaster Ogre Kingdoms - WIP
Fire Lords Space Marines - working towards 1500pts
Word Bearers Chaos Space Marines - Modelling project
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2012/09/23 11:01:52
Subject: Games Day UK 2012 (a.o. Warhammer Quest revealed!)
RanaldLoec@Warseer wrote:
From the forge world seminar
IA 12 is nearly done all the necrons good dream of is in there, confirmed that each xenos race will gets its own book. Looking to add to the existing range rather than cover non codex races.
Sorry squats.
Horus Heresy, will be probably be doing an Emperor model.
Abbadon looks great from what I can see of him. A new art book could be nice as well. I loved collected visions so hopefully this compares somewhat to that.
That's a WHQ iPad game. Hopefully Kroothawk will fix the title to stop crushing people's hopes soon.
What are you fellers talking about wallet pressure is now up to 11, if that's the closest to Warhammer Quest we will get I'll have to get a fething iPad!
Looks like the Mrs is getting an iPad for christmas then; she can get me the HH and IA Books!
...and an apple store voucher of course!
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That artbook isn't exactly new, it has been announced months ago and will go on official sale this November, it is a follow-up to the Emperor's Will artbook done last year.
Every time I hear "in my opinion" or "just my opinion" makes me want to strangle a puppy. People use their opinions as a shield that other poeple can't critisize and that is bs.
If you can't defend or won't defend your opinion then that "opinion" is bs. Stop trying to tip-toe and defend what you believe in.
New Necron stuff... 'Night Shroud' based off Scythe chassis, but seeming to have some kind of bulk on the edges. 'Sentry' Pylon, and something else in the back I can't make up.
Lightning II fighter much more in-line with new aesthetic for imp flyers
MAGUS! WOW!
But honetsly, I hope all that stuff on the right is just test sculpts.. the Magus isn't that great, and that Avatar looks horrible compared to the FW one... it just looks like a lumpy and out of proportion re-pose of the original to me.. .
Pirate Vampire Counts - WIP
Feastmaster Ogre Kingdoms - WIP
Fire Lords Space Marines - working towards 1500pts
Word Bearers Chaos Space Marines - Modelling project
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