Racism in Miniature Wargaming - Fanticide's Liberi Faction

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**CURNOW**

no differnt from makeing all dwarfs nordic is it ?
is that racist perpetuating the idea that everyone from the scandinavian states are short grumpy bearded people with axe's ?

or that people from south america are really laizards ?

name one game that dosnt use historical stereotypes in its races ?

its a game and i think you can read into it what you want to read in to it tbh.

**CURNOW**

weeble1000 wrote:Okay, let's try a similar example involving black people.

What if the faction was "Furtumi," (from the Latin for theft), and was composed of chimpanzees in blackface who lived in the ghetto, loved to eat watermelon, and were addicted to drugs?

Would that also not be racist?

punkow wrote:Does anybody has made a factionlike this? I don't think so... there are boundaries that nobody is willing to trespass...
Still the "Furtumi" could work in a very specific setting... Maybe a setting in which racial stereotypes are willfully used... Come on... I wouldn't be offended by the lazy and noisy Spaghezzis that form Mafiarious clans....

here ya go ! http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/miniatures/judge-dredd/apes-of-mega-city-one.html

**CURNOW**

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/landingArmy.jsp?catId=cat440014a&rootCatGameStyle=

poor french ! :[

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/landingArmy.jsp?catId=cat440023a&rootCatGameStyle=

poor germans ...

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/landingArmy.jsp?catId=cat720001a&rootCatGameStyle=

poor romanians !

i think your reading more into this than is there

**CURNOW**

pretre wrote:
That's not technically racism, CURNOW. As for the OP, I think you're stretching a bit here. The use of the 'noble savage' archetype far predates Fanticide and has little to do with racism at this point except when it is applied to real people.

im not sure what the differnce is ? bretonians could be considerd racist to the french /empire - germans in the same way this "could" be.
now if the fluff had said that the liberi had mutated in to the current centar form because of fire water induced horse bestiality i could see a problem but it dosnt they just share a common theme of being nomadic herd following people just like scores of other tribes around the world.
..if the figure painter had chosen a slightly differnt colour scheme then you wouldnt of even made the connection.

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Grimtuff wrote:
Weeble: Now we can't be having you calling them "American Indians" as that's racist too! If you want to be completely PC then you're going to have to call them "Native Americans"

non indigenous native americans !

**CURNOW**

mattyrm wrote:
shingouki wrote:

Matty you rock.I completely agree with what you are saying.

Hey ive just thought of something else that really offends me!

People taking the time to write letters and post posts and make blogs about being offended by not actually that offensive things.

This thread for example!

I mean, there are literally thousands of "good" causes.. my definition being simply "lessening the suffering of the aware" because I think its good for the world. Even supporting animals such as dogs and cats is noble, or what about all the oppressed women in the world, or victims of rape, or gay rights... in Saudi Arabia they still stone people to death. There are massacres in several African nations still going on. Uganda is fethed, as is Somalia.

But no, in our nice fat western nations we spend our time writing letters to politicians and the BBC... because a bloke said "tits" on the breakfast news.. or because they made a family friendly comedy about a British Muslim, or because Waitrose stops selling Salad Cream, or because they want to change the fething name of Coco Pops!

Or because possibly someone somewhere might be miffed about factions in hobby games.

THAT is fething offensive.. how we have become obsessed with "middle class arsehole" problems. Instead of.. you know.. not fething up the globe.

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kronk wrote:
I don't believe for a second that Weebie1000 is serious with this thread or believe that those are racists centaurs.

Don't use DAKKA for your social experiments or mental exercises, man.

Also a good hypothesis.

He is probably laughing his arse off right about now.

hoofin !