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2011/11/06 13:06:01
Subject: Re:Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
Big problem there, your grenade could easily cause the death of a few other APOC survivors. How? It will probably kill a couple shamblers, but the majority will just lose limbs, and those bastards that drag themselves around without legs are the really deadly ones, because you just dont see them under cars and such.
Bullets, best way to go for everybody
2011/11/06 16:00:33
Subject: Re:Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
KingCracker wrote:Yup, thats one sad fact about the Z APOC. Always keep 1 bullet for that very reason. Quick way out instead of being torn apart
That is what grenades are for! If I am going out, I am taking some of them with me!
Well, you might "take some with you" and then again you might not...grenades kill ( smoke and chem excluded) by producing high velocity fragments which cause massive trauma to the victim(s), most often to their bodies.
As damage to internal organs doesn't result in a zombie kill, and unless some of the grenade fragments were to penetrate the zombie(s) skull and destroy the brain within...you'd most likely just leave this world with a big boom...surrounded by a few shredded ..but otherwise unaffected ,zombies.
EDIT: KC has the jist of it.
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2011/11/06 16:02:54
Subject: Re:Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
Explosives are pretty piss-poor weapons to use against zombies. Non-fragmenting grenades and conventional explosives could be used to destroy parts of structures to create chokepoints, and they can all find use against hostile humans.
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There are some who walk until their legs fail them and they fall to the ground. I find that respectable.
Then there are those who drag themselves further. I find that admirable.
2011/11/06 16:12:00
Subject: Re:Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
Nerivant wrote:Explosives are pretty piss-poor weapons to use against zombies. Non-fragmenting grenades and conventional explosives could be used to destroy parts of structures to create chokepoints, and they can all find use against hostile humans.
Well yes, for their conventional use ( taking out humans) grenades are a handy ( ) tool to have....and I could see how they'd be worthwhile as far as use in demolition...or even improvised traps.
But as far as " pull the pin...toss at zombies"...well, you may slow them down...but your "kill" ratio isn't going to be that high.
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2011/11/06 16:35:54
Subject: Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
2011/11/07 08:28:38
Subject: Re:Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
KingCracker wrote:Big problem there, your grenade could easily cause the death of a few other APOC survivors. How? It will probably kill a couple shamblers, but the majority will just lose limbs, and those bastards that drag themselves around without legs are the really deadly ones, because you just dont see them under cars and such.
Bullets, best way to go for everybody
Assuming I am in the situation where I would be willing to kill myself, I would have told my fellow survivors to move on and leave me. But, as for Grenades and killing Zombies, Grenades have a pretty wide kill zone, and while the shrapnel needs a hit in the head to kill, the odds of it taking out even one zombie is pretty good. Which means that it has a higher chance of killing a zombie than just shooting myself, which makes it the better way to go. Take some with me when I go. But really, the odds of taking multiple zombies out from shrapnel and the pressure from the explosion itself incapacitating them, really helpful way to go.
On top of that, while my fellow survivors are making a run for it, Zombies will be drawn to my location because of the explosion and the sound of it. Really, all in all, a much better decision.
2011/11/07 14:33:11
Subject: Re:Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
Yea, zombies will be coming to the sound for sure, better hope that while your friends are running, ALL the zombies infront of them have a sudden case of no hearing. Really I think using a grenade in that way is just bad all around. But you go ahead and have one with your name scratched itno it. If our parties ever meat, Ill make sure Im never on patrol with you thats all
2011/11/07 15:28:08
Subject: Re:Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
well, as expected...a very character focused episode last night..not that that's a bad thing, and the " well zombie" was sort of cool ( even if the entire scene was a bit predictable in it's outcome).
Spoiler:
Clearly Lori has turned out to indeed be pregnant...which was no big surprise ( and I'm willing to bet that Rick already knows thanks to the Dr. back at the CDC, so the "reveal" should be amusing).
Also betting that there's going to be at least a nod to the comics as to why Hershel doesn't want Rick's group carrying their guns on his property, and why he didn't want them near the barn..( Might explain "well zombie" as well).
Glenn and Maggie's hook up again was no surprise, though the brief " condom" discussion was good for a laugh...expect tension between Hershel and Maggie in the next episode.. , actually expect conflict between most of the Rick group/Hershel group if things turn out as I suspect they will...I believe we may be seeing the end of " good guy" Rick soon...about fething time he realizes that he's not a cop anymore.
...Oh, and of course the " Sophie's lost" BS continues...though due to Daryl's discoveries at the abandoned house it would seem that she may still be alive ( or at least that's whats implied)...bit of a tough call as to what's going to happen with that story line, we could see a " happy reunion"...but I hope not.
... Also, the previews for next weeks show seem to indicate that Daryl will be getting into a pretty tight spot, and as he's a " non comic" character...that of course could go anyway...though I'd hate to see him die off.
It also appears that Meryl might be making a return as well...which should be very interesting...if he pop's back up I hope he kills T-Dog.
...All in all a " bridge episode"...not bad, but not much " action"....well, unless you count Glenn and Maggie's pharmacy romp.
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2011/11/07 18:15:06
Subject: Re:Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
KingCracker wrote:Yea, zombies will be coming to the sound for sure, better hope that while your friends are running, ALL the zombies infront of them have a sudden case of no hearing. Really I think using a grenade in that way is just bad all around. But you go ahead and have one with your name scratched itno it. If our parties ever meat, Ill make sure Im never on patrol with you thats all
If I were to be able to choose a way to go out it would involve a lot more explosives than just a grenade...of course the odds of having access to a large amount of explosives upon your untimely demise is very negligible, it would still make for a pretty awesome last hurrah...a big fireball being the legacy of Warork...
and possibly everyone with me at the time...
Blast...did not catch last episode...must track it down and watch it...as well as the premiere of Hell on wheels...
2011/11/07 21:04:13
Subject: Re:Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
FITZZ wrote: well, as expected...a very character focused episode last night..not that that's a bad thing, and the " well zombie" was sort of cool ( even if the entire scene was a bit predictable in it's outcome).
Spoiler:
Clearly Lori has turned out to indeed be pregnant...which was no big surprise ( and I'm willing to bet that Rick already knows thanks to the Dr. back at the CDC, so the "reveal" should be amusing).
Also betting that there's going to be at least a nod to the comics as to why Hershel doesn't want Rick's group carrying their guns on his property, and why he didn't want them near the barn..( Might explain "well zombie" as well).
Glenn and Maggie's hook up again was no surprise, though the brief " condom" discussion was good for a laugh...expect tension between Hershel and Maggie in the next episode.. , actually expect conflict between most of the Rick group/Hershel group if things turn out as I suspect they will...I believe we may be seeing the end of " good guy" Rick soon...about fething time he realizes that he's not a cop anymore.
...Oh, and of course the " Sophie's lost" BS continues...though due to Daryl's discoveries at the abandoned house it would seem that she may still be alive ( or at least that's whats implied)...bit of a tough call as to what's going to happen with that story line, we could see a " happy reunion"...but I hope not.
... Also, the previews for next weeks show seem to indicate that Daryl will be getting into a pretty tight spot, and as he's a " non comic" character...that of course could go anyway...though I'd hate to see him die off.
It also appears that Meryl might be making a return as well...which should be very interesting...if he pop's back up I hope he kills T-Dog.
...All in all a " bridge episode"...not bad, but not much " action"....well, unless you count Glenn and Maggie's pharmacy romp.
Ya, that was pretty awesome when the well zombie split in two. Totally gross. TWD still leading the world in gross zombie technology! Kind of a slow episode otherwise.
When I first heard about this show I figured each episode would cover multiple comic book issues. However, in season 1 each episode was like one issue. Now somehow each episode isn't even one issue. It's like 5 pages of a comic book somehow
At least Glenn got to shine this episode. both with Zombie wrangling and...other stuff.
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2011/11/07 22:45:13
Subject: Re:Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
Its obvious to me now that Tdog is going to die at the hands of Meryl. But at least Tdog said something that I finally agreed with and laughed at. After he beat the hell out of that zombie, and then said something like "yea, sure glad we spared a bullet for damn thing" hilarious.
I hope Darrel doesnt die, honestly hes such a badass! I hope he ends up killing his own brother or something awesome cool. It would fit his character. Hell, maybe Meryl has the girl, and thats how Darrel finds her
Also, am I the only one that thinks the group abuses/uses Glenn?
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2011/11/07 22:56:51
Subject: Re:Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
KingCracker wrote:Its obvious to me now that Tdog is going to die at the hands of Meryl. But at least Tdog said something that I finally agreed with and laughed at. After he beat the hell out of that zombie, and then said something like "yea, sure glad we spared a bullet for damn thing" hilarious.
I hope Darrel doesnt die, honestly hes such a badass! I hope he ends up killing his own brother or something awesome cool. It would fit his character. Hell, maybe Meryl has the girl, and thats how Darrel finds her
Also, am I the only one that thinks the group abuses/uses Glenn?
Ya, for some reason when they say "we need some live bait" they all immediately looked at Glenn.
2011/11/08 02:03:20
Subject: Re:Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
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2011/11/08 06:51:03
Subject: Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
Poor Glenn, dont they realize that his skills, are an important skill set to have in a group? Sheesh, lets just waste the good shooter as well, I mean, surely anyone can be a good shot when it counts
2011/11/08 13:09:55
Subject: Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
Not that keen on seeing Meryl show up. This could get soap operaish.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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2011/11/08 16:33:54
Subject: Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
Frazzled wrote:Not that keen on seeing Meryl show up. This could get soap operaish.
Merle popping back up is almost a certainty at some point this season
Spoiler:
I'd say it's a forgone conclusion that there will be some sort of conflict between Merle and Daryl revolving around Daryl's " loyalty" to the group and "loyalty" to his brother
...And I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to discover that Merle has Sophie.
What ever happens, it's a sure bet that TWD producers didn't hire a talent like Michael Rooker and set up the whole "He cut off his own hand to escape" bit just to have Merle fade away with out a whimper
...He'll definitely be back.
...Soap opera...yeah, but then again the whole series has been a bit of a "dark soap opera" from it's start.
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2011/11/08 16:38:00
Subject: Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
Frazzled wrote:Not that keen on seeing Meryl show up. This could get soap operaish.
Merle popping back up is almost a certainty at some point this season
Spoiler:
I'd say it's a forgone conclusion that there will be some sort of conflict between Merle and Daryl revolving around Daryl's " loyalty" to the group and "loyalty" to his brother
...And I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to discover that Merle has Sophie.
What ever happens, it's a sure bet that TWD producers didn't hire a talent like Michael Rooker and set up the whole "He cut off his own hand to escape" bit just to have Merle fade away with out a whimper
...He'll definitely be back.
...Soap opera...yeah, but then again the whole series has been a bit of a "dark soap opera" from it's start.
That whole "cut off his hand" thing annoys me.
The metal that the cuffs were attached to was as thick around as a pensil.
If the blade was to dull to cut through that little bit of metal then he would have had a heck of a time cutting through the bone.
Exactly. Its a soap, with zombies, death, and bullets, but its still a soap
But yea, Im wondering if Meryl is going to be closer to the end of the season though, I think the mystery at the homestead is going to take up a few episodes, I mean the old man, doesnt want anyone armed on his property, and he has mentioned he lost a few of his own to the plague, or whatever you want to call the Zombie epidemic, AND not wanting them near the barns. I think they kept them in there, and hes trying to maybe find a cure for it, and doesnt want them to get shot
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Ma55ter_fett wrote:
FITZZ wrote:
Frazzled wrote:Not that keen on seeing Meryl show up. This could get soap operaish.
Merle popping back up is almost a certainty at some point this season
Spoiler:
I'd say it's a forgone conclusion that there will be some sort of conflict between Merle and Daryl revolving around Daryl's " loyalty" to the group and "loyalty" to his brother
...And I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to discover that Merle has Sophie.
What ever happens, it's a sure bet that TWD producers didn't hire a talent like Michael Rooker and set up the whole "He cut off his own hand to escape" bit just to have Merle fade away with out a whimper
...He'll definitely be back.
...Soap opera...yeah, but then again the whole series has been a bit of a "dark soap opera" from it's start.
That whole "cut off his hand" thing annoys me.
The metal that the cuffs were attached to was as thick around as a pensil.
If the blade was to dull to cut through that little bit of metal then he would have had a heck of a time cutting through the bone.
Not necessarily, just because the metal was thin, doesnt mean it wasnt a dense metal like carbon steel or something similar. And even a dull saw has a better chance of hacking through bone then metal, all you really need is some nubs like a butter knife, to saw through bone. Besides, Meryl was about the be eaten alive, that fear/panic kicks in, he would of gnawed the damn hand off
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2011/11/08 16:57:46
Subject: Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
Frazzled wrote:Not that keen on seeing Meryl show up. This could get soap operaish.
Merle popping back up is almost a certainty at some point this season
Spoiler:
I'd say it's a forgone conclusion that there will be some sort of conflict between Merle and Daryl revolving around Daryl's " loyalty" to the group and "loyalty" to his brother
...And I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to discover that Merle has Sophie.
What ever happens, it's a sure bet that TWD producers didn't hire a talent like Michael Rooker and set up the whole "He cut off his own hand to escape" bit just to have Merle fade away with out a whimper
...He'll definitely be back.
...Soap opera...yeah, but then again the whole series has been a bit of a "dark soap opera" from it's start.
That whole "cut off his hand" thing annoys me.
The metal that the cuffs were attached to was as thick around as a pensil.
If the blade was to dull to cut through that little bit of metal then he would have had a heck of a time cutting through the bone.
Perhaps so...but, the scene was played for dramatic effect...and clearly it's much more of a "holy gak" moment for the group to have discovered Merle's severed hand rather than discovering half a set of handcuffs dangling from a pipe.
... And it of course set's up the whole previously mentioned " Revenge of the one handed Red neck" story line as well...a man's going to be much more vicious when doling out " justice" if those he's after placed him in a position in which he had to grieviously injure himself to escape.
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2011/11/08 17:03:22
Subject: Re:Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
KingCracker wrote:Agreed, I know if I were in Merles situation, and wanted revenge, Id be 10x more dangerous, specially at that group, just for pure vengeance sake
... My Missus still speculates that it was Merle who led the walkers back to the groups first base in season one, which makes some sense to me...
If I were an injured and pissed off one handed red neck, with no weapons and an ax to grind...bread crumbing a group of zombies to where I knew the people I was miffed at where camped would be at the top of my " ways to extract revenge" idea list.
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2011/11/09 04:13:21
Subject: Re:Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
KingCracker wrote:And before that "Hey we need supplies, GLENN!!! Get over here your going to town" Seriously?! Dont even ask the fething guy
Well...being the "go to town" guy has been shown to have the added perk of...privacy...
*coughcough*
I could have easily seen a guy in a suit come onto the screen after the scene with the pregnancy test and say "You see kids, this is what happens when you don't use protection, remember, only you can prevent unwanted apocalypse pregnancy."
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2011/11/09 14:19:49
Subject: Re:Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
KingCracker wrote:And before that "Hey we need supplies, GLENN!!! Get over here your going to town" Seriously?! Dont even ask the fething guy
Well...being the "go to town" guy has been shown to have the added perk of...privacy...
*coughcough*
I could have easily seen a guy in a suit come onto the screen after the scene with the pregnancy test and say "You see kids, this is what happens when you don't use protection, remember, only you can prevent unwanted apocalypse pregnancy."
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Ahn, but Glenn did have a box of condoms in his hand...in fact it was the package ( ) that sparked the whole " Apoc bop" lead in conversation between him and Maggie to begin with, so the " commercial" would have been more like...
" That's right kids...the last thing you need during the zombie apocalypse is a screaming brat giving away your hiding place to a swarm of hungry walkers...so, the next time you reach for that special someone to provide a few moments of comfort and pleasure in a world gone mad...make sure to reach for Trojans first."
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2011/11/09 22:00:54
Subject: Re:Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
) tool to have....and I could see how they'd be worthwhile as far as use in demolition...or even improvised traps.
, actually expect conflict between most of the Rick group/Hershel group if things turn out as I suspect they will...I believe we may be seeing the end of " good guy" Rick soon...about fething time he realizes that he's not a cop anymore.
