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ghosty wrote:Surely though, if governed by the Monty Python laws, surely if said zombie whom before being a zombie couldn't even have one wafer thin mint, surely eating a waiter would cause him to explode :?

Well...perhaps you have a point,but even after the zombie exploded...it would still attempt to bite/eat any who ventured near...assuming it's head was intact.

On a Python related side note...if John Cleese were to become a zombie...would he have a silly shamble??

ghosty wrote:Surely though, if governed by the Monty Python laws, surely if said zombie whom before being a zombie couldn't even have one wafer thin mint, surely eating a waiter would cause him to explode :?

You seem to forget that having an exploded stomach doesn't really matter to a zombie

Though it would cause them some postural problems as the abdominal muscles stabilise the torso.

My problem with people always thinking the military would crush the zombies is thus

Yes they have the means to blow the gak out of zombies. The problem is, they will ALSO be taking in casualties from the zombies attacking people. So wounded and ready to turn, they will potentially have a gak load of soon to be zombies in their safe zones, as well as fighting them out in the warzone. And seriously if a real life zombie outbreak happened, they wouldnt be prepared for something like that. All those wounded and bitten people would then turn, and lash out and bite/wound others inside. It would spread like wild fire in the safe zones.

Thats where the whole zombie thing gets its strengths. Sure they are slow (talking old school of course) but they are pretty much with out number, and they spread faster then a cold. So even after a short time frame the small well equipped military forces would be over run with thousands of zombies. That would be crushing just with the amount of bodies.

I also doubt whether the UK has 65+ odd million bullets on hand if the worst case happened and most of the UK population became infected.

I have no doubt as to whether the US has 250+ million bullets (as we all know the US likes blowing the crap out of things ).

SilverMK2 wrote:I also doubt whether the UK has 65+ odd million bullets on hand if the worst case happened and most of the UK population became infected.

I have no doubt as to whether the US has 250+ million bullets (as we all know the US likes blowing the crap out of things ).

250MM bullets, thats just a good afternoon shooting.

ON the positive, its my understanding there are exactly 2.7878689 cricket bats per person in the UK. As Shawn of the Dead has shown us, no Brit need fear the Zombiepocalypse once equipped with a right proper cricket bat.

I don't think chocolate M&M bullets would be very good against the zombie horde - though they would be nommy

SilverMK2 wrote:I don't think chocolate M&M bullets would be very good against the zombie horde - though they would be nommy

250MM = 250,000,000

on the other hand, M&M bullets agreed NOMNOMNOM!!!

Frazzled wrote:ON the positive, its my understanding there are exactly 2.7878689 cricket bats per person in the UK. As Shawn of the Dead has shown us, no Brit need fear the Zombiepocalypse once equipped with a right proper cricket bat.

The sad thing is that the majority of them will be cheap cricket bats that break after a couple of skulls. I've broken at least 2 bats playing cricket (one really cheap bat and one cheap-ish bat). And that was just hitting a cricket ball

Plus most people don't treat their bats properly - oiling and tempering them before use, etc.

No wonder we don't have an Empire any more *tears barely restrained*

Sgt_Scruffy wrote:
As for The Walking Dead, I liked the show. I hope it doesn't devolve into a "Lost" type experience where the humans are busier bickering and getting caught up in love triangles than surviving.

I doubt it will turn into Lost, but you realize that the core zombie genre (and most great zombie movies) is actually more about the human interaction and how human's handle the zombies, than the zombies themselves, right?

The question of zombie outbreaks comes up with my friends every now and then. Maybe years ago there might have been more of a problem but I feel that these days, with so much zombie fiction out there, I think the zombies wouldn't get far. The initial wave would no doubt take a few, but all it would take would be a news story or two, and people would be like "hey just like the movies, shoot them in the head, no problem."

After reading the first part of the comic, and watching the first episode of the show I think that this is a fairly realistic portrayal of what could happen during a zombie apocalypse. I look forward to both watching and reading more.

Because they filmed it in Atlanta, it was both eerie and awesome that I recognized the locations.

I'm only half way through the first episode (I apparently have a much lower threshold to horror than I used to ) but it is pretty good.

It is interesting trying to figure out what kind of zombies these are.

SilverMK2 wrote:I'm only half way through the first episode (I apparently have a much lower threshold to horror than I used to ) but it is pretty good.

It is interesting trying to figure out what kind of zombies these are.

Spoiler:

The little girl zombie at the start picked up a cuddly animal, so they obviously recognise certain things... the zombies locked in the hospital didn't just bull charge against the doors when they noticed the policeman standing outside, they just tried to reach through the gap in the chained doors, etc...

They seem to be similar to Romero zombies,particularly the ones depicted in "Day of the Dead" and to a lesser degree "Land of the Dead",in which zombies were shown to retain some memories/skills from when they had been alive.

FITZZ wrote:

SilverMK2 wrote:I'm only half way through the first episode (I apparently have a much lower threshold to horror than I used to ) but it is pretty good.

It is interesting trying to figure out what kind of zombies these are.

Spoiler:

The little girl zombie at the start picked up a cuddly animal, so they obviously recognise certain things... the zombies locked in the hospital didn't just bull charge against the doors when they noticed the policeman standing outside, they just tried to reach through the gap in the chained doors, etc...

They seem to be similar to Romero zombies,particularly the ones depicted in "Day of the Dead" and to a lesser degree "Land of the Dead",in which zombies were shown to retain some memories/skills from when they had been alive.

Like the zombie trying to use the door handle.

Ahtman wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

SilverMK2 wrote:I'm only half way through the first episode (I apparently have a much lower threshold to horror than I used to ) but it is pretty good.

It is interesting trying to figure out what kind of zombies these are.

Spoiler:

The little girl zombie at the start picked up a cuddly animal, so they obviously recognise certain things... the zombies locked in the hospital didn't just bull charge against the doors when they noticed the policeman standing outside, they just tried to reach through the gap in the chained doors, etc...

They seem to be similar to Romero zombies,particularly the ones depicted in "Day of the Dead" and to a lesser degree "Land of the Dead",in which zombies were shown to retain some memories/skills from when they had been alive.

Like the zombie trying to use the door handle.

Exactly,she retained the rudimentary knowledge that the door handle opened doors,as well as the knowledge that the house had been hers...or at least where she and her family had been hiding out.

I think if that really could happen, they would retain some type of reflex or strong memory of some kind. That stuff gets embedded into your brain that as I said, its a reflex or something along those lines. Weather or not a zombie would actually KNOW what its doing is another topic

So im halfway through the first episode. Seems ok in all honesty.

It's one of my favorite comics by far. As usual the book is better than the show/movie but I was pretty happy with the pilot.

pretre wrote:

Sgt_Scruffy wrote:
As for The Walking Dead, I liked the show. I hope it doesn't devolve into a "Lost" type experience where the humans are busier bickering and getting caught up in love triangles than surviving.

I doubt it will turn into Lost, but you realize that the core zombie genre (and most great zombie movies) is actually more about the human interaction and how human's handle the zombies, than the zombies themselves, right?

Yes, I do realize that - I guess what I was trying to say was that I hope we continue to get the story. I'm curious as to how the outbreak started, what's being done (if anything) to combat it, and are there safe zones? I actually have a great amount of faith in AMC as after Mad Men they can practically do no wrong.

Sgt_Scruffy wrote:

pretre wrote:

Sgt_Scruffy wrote:
As for The Walking Dead, I liked the show. I hope it doesn't devolve into a "Lost" type experience where the humans are busier bickering and getting caught up in love triangles than surviving.

I doubt it will turn into Lost, but you realize that the core zombie genre (and most great zombie movies) is actually more about the human interaction and how human's handle the zombies, than the zombies themselves, right?

Yes, I do realize that - I guess what I was trying to say was that I hope we continue to get the story. I'm curious as to how the outbreak started, what's being done (if anything) to combat it, and are there safe zones? I actually have a great amount of faith in AMC as after Mad Men they can practically do no wrong.

I own every issue and it doesn't really have flashbacks (so nothing about how the outbreak started - I just assume its a natural disease). As for safe zones an whatnot; well I won't ruin it for you.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:

Sgt_Scruffy wrote:

pretre wrote:

Sgt_Scruffy wrote:
As for The Walking Dead, I liked the show. I hope it doesn't devolve into a "Lost" type experience where the humans are busier bickering and getting caught up in love triangles than surviving.

I doubt it will turn into Lost, but you realize that the core zombie genre (and most great zombie movies) is actually more about the human interaction and how human's handle the zombies, than the zombies themselves, right?

Yes, I do realize that - I guess what I was trying to say was that I hope we continue to get the story. I'm curious as to how the outbreak started, what's being done (if anything) to combat it, and are there safe zones? I actually have a great amount of faith in AMC as after Mad Men they can practically do no wrong.

I own every issue and it doesn't really have flashbacks (so nothing about how the outbreak started - I just assume its a natural disease). As for safe zones an whatnot; well I won't ruin it for you.

I wonder how "true" to the comics AMC plans to be,I imagine they will use the books as reference framework/basic plotting...but I assume they will deviate from time to time...

I do belive that at some point there will be "flash back" sequences in the series if for no other reason than to satisfy the curiosity of the viewers.

was it just me, or was anyone else struck by how similar the start of this seemed to "the Day of the Triffids?"...

man, now thats a book that deserves a modern makeover!

FITZZ wrote:

KamikazeCanuck wrote:

Sgt_Scruffy wrote:

pretre wrote:

Sgt_Scruffy wrote:
As for The Walking Dead, I liked the show. I hope it doesn't devolve into a "Lost" type experience where the humans are busier bickering and getting caught up in love triangles than surviving.

I doubt it will turn into Lost, but you realize that the core zombie genre (and most great zombie movies) is actually more about the human interaction and how human's handle the zombies, than the zombies themselves, right?

Yes, I do realize that - I guess what I was trying to say was that I hope we continue to get the story. I'm curious as to how the outbreak started, what's being done (if anything) to combat it, and are there safe zones? I actually have a great amount of faith in AMC as after Mad Men they can practically do no wrong.

I own every issue and it doesn't really have flashbacks (so nothing about how the outbreak started - I just assume its a natural disease). As for safe zones an whatnot; well I won't ruin it for you.

I wonder how "true" to the comics AMC plans to be,I imagine they will use the books as reference framework/basic plotting...but I assume they will deviate from time to time...

I do belive that at some point there will be "flash back" sequences in the series if for no other reason than to satisfy the curiosity of the viewers.

Betcha 5 bucks they won't.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

KamikazeCanuck wrote:

Sgt_Scruffy wrote:

pretre wrote:

Sgt_Scruffy wrote:
As for The Walking Dead, I liked the show. I hope it doesn't devolve into a "Lost" type experience where the humans are busier bickering and getting caught up in love triangles than surviving.

I doubt it will turn into Lost, but you realize that the core zombie genre (and most great zombie movies) is actually more about the human interaction and how human's handle the zombies, than the zombies themselves, right?

Yes, I do realize that - I guess what I was trying to say was that I hope we continue to get the story. I'm curious as to how the outbreak started, what's being done (if anything) to combat it, and are there safe zones? I actually have a great amount of faith in AMC as after Mad Men they can practically do no wrong.

I own every issue and it doesn't really have flashbacks (so nothing about how the outbreak started - I just assume its a natural disease). As for safe zones an whatnot; well I won't ruin it for you.

I wonder how "true" to the comics AMC plans to be,I imagine they will use the books as reference framework/basic plotting...but I assume they will deviate from time to time...

I do belive that at some point there will be "flash back" sequences in the series if for no other reason than to satisfy the curiosity of the viewers.

Betcha 5 bucks they won't.

Ooooh a challenge...ok, the bets on.

The production team (in collaboration with the comics team) has stated there will be similarities between the two but that they will be different. Some characters from the comic won't be in the show and the show will also have a few original characters. They want the show to be it's own entity and not just a carbon copy of the comics. Partially for artistic reasons and partially because they are very different mediums.

Yes but TWD is all about survival in the moment. We rarely know more about the larger world than what the charaters do.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:Yes but TWD is all about survival in the moment. We rarely know more about the larger world than what the charaters do.

This is true within the context of the books...but,with the transition to television,as Ahtman pointed out,there will surely be some differences.

The horse get's eaten?!

GOOD GOD NO!

ghosty wrote:The horse get's eaten?!

GOOD GOD NO!

Amusingly enough that was the second time I've seen zombies eat a horse...Mr.Ed had best beware.

How are zombies going to get a horse? They can run like mothers and a kicking horse will kick your arse hardcore.

Besides I thought zombies were after people? If generic mammals we need to get a cctv of the lion den at the local zoo, this could be good (but make some very very fat lions).