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To unlock 1k sons as a troop in the new dex, you need either a Tzeentch marked sorcerer or ahriman. Ahriman's quite the pricey blighter, coming in at 230, but he's level 4 and has a pretty good weapon/buff set. Now the sorcerer is much cheaper, only 125 if you take him to level 3, but he is less survivable with his bad invuln and has one less power to roll for/use. At lvl 4 Ahriman can completely own the decently powerful tzeentch psychic discipline, or have almost total control of 3 others. So which should I take to be my warlord?

*nonchalantly strolls out to buy new codex*



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I'll be back

The only reason to take Ahriman is if you plan to use infiltrating warlord traits. Spending more 100 points for 1 mastery level and some still half-assed CC improvement isn't worth it. You can get a level 3 with MOT and another level 3 for the practically the same cost.

Thanks for the help

scimitar wrote:
The only reason to take Ahriman is if you plan to use infiltrating warlord traits. Spending more 100 points for 1 mastery level and some still half-assed CC improvement isn't worth it. You can get a level 3 with MOT and another level 3 for the practically the same cost.

Ahriman has more than just half a$$ed CC ability compared to a regular sorc.
Sorcs have 2 wounds and are at the point they can be sniped out of units pretty easily.
Ahriman is no CC beatstick but he wont die to a vindicare's hellfire round either.

I am; however, betting that the special characters in the new dex are going to be largely worthless unless you want fluff. Their rules are known, and phil kelly is not ward. Most of his special characters are just not worth the points.

Actually his special characters are actually pretty good this time around, even Huron is a bit worthwhile.

A sorcerer can also pick a spell familiar to re-roll casting spells, which is a good deal if you face lots of eldar and nids. And you get to pick what Force Weapon you want, meaning you can take a sword or axe; Ahriman's staff has high S but terrible AP.

What if the sorcerer had a Sigil of Corruption? Then he would have a 3+ invul

Another bonus of Ahriman is that he can use 3 witchfire powers in a turn rather than one.

I kinda like all of the HQs in CSM....there isn't a single one of them that's useless. They're all viable in one build or another as far as I can see.

What Ahriman has going for him is obviusly that he can shoot 3 times. He can also do it out of the top hatch of a rhino so you get a littlemore pop. Exspensive yes, but then he packs quite a big punch for an IC that you can add to a squad.