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Stoic Grail Knight






Yendor

There should be another option,

"ambivalent"

Honestly I don't particularly care for it any more or any less than the old 4th edition codex, and it really feels incredibly similar to that book as well.

looking at the big rulebook, I don't think CSM was even meant to be a stand alone codex. They seem like a book that is designed to play along side chaos daemons- or at least guard to create a truly thematic looking army.

Sure if has a lot of options if you play the "chaos rainbow" but a lot of people want to build legion specific builds, or worship a specific chaos god. In which case they will always feel extremely limited unless they ally with Chaos Daemons, to get the corresponding options from that book too.

As has been said all over, it would really have been nice to have marks unlock new wargear options to help personalize things.

so I don't like it, but I don't dislike it either. I am ambivalent.
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Stoic Grail Knight






Yendor

 Testify wrote:

Chaos Marine players seem to think that they alone have the sacred right to collect a competative army from the specific legion of their choice...nevermind that vanilla marines, guard and chaos deamons don't get this luxury, if it's even possible to create essentially 6 or so sub-codexes within the book.

It's a good 'dex, and Chaos are competative again now. I also lolled at someone complaining about flying deamon princes costing more. 6s to hit, brah. Take it from someone who's run flying circus with chaos deamons, it makes them damn hard to kill


I think you are a bit confused about what people are actually complaining about. The valid complaint isn't that chaos cannot make a competitive list out of the specific legion of their choice as you are posing, but rather that all of the god specific wargear has pretty much been removed. There are exactly 2 generic daemon weapons. In the gavdex you at least had the god specific daemon weapons. This was not replaced with more options, either. Its not that chaos players are worried about "competitve" so much as they would like a bit more to differentiate their marked lord than a tatoo. Some token wargear would have been nice.

Also people aren't complaining about Daemon Princes because they are flying, they are complaining about them because they cost an arm and a leg and live in eternal fear of Railguns and other such weaponry. Its not a big deal if you don't play against Tau, but its not fun watching your 250 points of Daemon Prince get punked by the first (twin linked) railgun shot to roll a 6. You'll notice that CD Princes have Eternal Warrior, and I'll tell you right now that my current DP model will probably be switched over to an allied Chaos Daemons Heavy Support Slot for that reason alone- the other being that pavane rocks.

You are making it sound like Chaos Space Marine Players are all just a bunch of whiners because they didn't get a codex on par with necrons. This just isn't true and its fundamentally unfair. Chaos players have some legitimate complaints about the restrictiveness of the new codex. Sure it may be competitive, but that was never what most people were complaining about in the first place.
 
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