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Hey all

So I am developing a background for my DIY SM Chapter and had a quick question regarding Elder Craftworlds.

Does anyone know if craftworlds have ever fell to chaos? Do you think it would be possible for elder craftworlds to be taken by Chaos? 40k Wiki states the following:

The massive psychic shockwave of Slaanesh's awakening caught some of the Craftworlds and destroyed them alongside the Eldar homeworlds, while others were pulled into orbit around the newly-formed Eye of Terror Warp rift at the moment of the Prince of Pleasure's birth.


could some of those that were pulled into the warp could have been captured and altered by Chaos? The issue I see is that Chaos would then have access to the Webway, unless this link was severed or destroyed somehow (or do Chaos already have access to the Webway noting they are tunnels through the warp?)

My army background involves the SM Chapter surviving on a Nurgle infested world and I would like it to be a craftworld (as it would aid in the story) - unfeasible?

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There are no chaos eldar.

There are no chaos craftworlds.

Those who were pulled into the eye would have died.

It's possible the craftworld structure could survive, but no living thing on it. It would simply be a ruin.


Also, not even space marines could survive a nurgle infeted world, unless they were followers of nurgle themselves, sorry


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Yeah. The only chaos craftworlds were likely pulled into eye of terror, and there they stay. But even an entire chapter of marines would struggle to adequately crew a craftworld even if they could.

However a nurgle infested spacehulk or derelict is possible. Although would also probably mean a untimely end for the marines. I'd say chaos infested is best bet. But then you have to explain why your chapter arnt shot on sight for being renegades and heretics.

Would be a good background for a Chaos Warband however.

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Thanks heaps guys for the help. I will modify my ideas
   
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Pretty unfeasible, yup. I'd advise picking a Crone World instead, those are the original homeworlds and colonies of the Eldar within what is now the Eye of Terror that are now uninhabited. You'd get a similar concept, but it'd make a lot more sense.

Also, Chaos already has access to the Webway, since the structure itself is broken and Daemons can find their way in through the cracks; the issue is whether they can find anything within it, since the last proper Eldar God is busy making the Webway more trouble than it's worth for anyone who isn't an Eldar.

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Hey cheers for the additional info AnomanderRake - very helpful.

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Although the problem with having a crone world is that it IS in the Eye of terror.
Why would a Marine Chapter be there? How do they survive on the surface? Its not exactly inviting.

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Mmm good points Eetion... let me expand a bit to see if you think the idea is ultimately feasible.

My idea was they became trapped their after being ambushed in a space engagement by Chaos.

The Chaos Fleet forces them to make an emergency jump into the warp, at which time their sorcerers direct them into the Eye of Terror (or some other Chaos held region) where their remaining fleet crashes on the occupied world.

Thoughts?
   
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There's a story in the daemon codex about a craftworld that gets taken over by Slaaneshi daemons.

Just my 2 cents.

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Hmmm I will have to give it a read, thanks Bores

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Tracer-Actual wrote:
Mmm good points Eetion... let me expand a bit to see if you think the idea is ultimately feasible.

My idea was they became trapped their after being ambushed in a space engagement by Chaos.

The Chaos Fleet forces them to make an emergency jump into the warp, at which time their sorcerers direct them into the Eye of Terror (or some other Chaos held region) where their remaining fleet crashes on the occupied world.

Thoughts?


Rather than a Sorceror, I'd just say the tides of warp/warp storm forced them off course in their hasty escape. Their ship war damaged venting atmosphere and limping in space.

You can then have them find a 'Space Hulk' Capture a small chaos escort/Croneworld whatever to survive along witrh remains of their crew.

Personally I'd say capture a escort or hulk, as strolling around on the surface can be somewhat hazardous to health.
Keep in mind a good portion of SM vessels are hardwiured servitors, so maybe having to utilise a chaos crew?

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Guys, I'm surprised no one mentioned Altansar.

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Altansar

These eldar lived for 10k years in the warp, I'd say there are probably some others if they can survive for that long relatively safely.

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I think Altansar is more of a special snow flake.
As far as I know they didn't fall to chaos. But were 'trapped' within the eye.
Now 'trapped doesn't nessacerily mean 10000 years, but 1 extremely harrowing minute, or maybe no discernable passage of time was noticed at all, and from Altansars point of view they made it out 'just in time'

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According to the Eldar 4th edition codex, Altansar didn't exactly get through the warp unscathed. Maugan Ra collected what was left of the craftworld that hadn't been perverted by Chaos and led them out of the Eye of Terror. The Rest?...well, it's best not to think about it.

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Even still, the SM chapter in question could in theory be trapped in the warp on some demon infested craftworld left by the long dead Eldar. Their main objective would be to fight a desperate battle off said world struggling against the corruption from within as well as without before they are all lost to Chaos. Though radical, by trying to figure out how to activate the Eldar warding technologies, they could buy themselves more time - ultimately not to survive, but to pass their geneseed to the outside world uncorrupted so the Chapter may one day continue again.

It's not Mary Sue, and it's acceptable. Frankly i think this idea is plausible and very very cool.

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 ENOZONE wrote:
Even still, the SM chapter in question could in theory be trapped in the warp on some demon infested craftworld left by the long dead Eldar. Their main objective would be to fight a desperate battle off said world struggling against the corruption from within as well as without before they are all lost to Chaos. Though radical, by trying to figure out how to activate the Eldar warding technologies, they could buy themselves more time - ultimately not to survive, but to pass their geneseed to the outside world uncorrupted so the Chapter may one day continue again.

It's not Mary Sue, and it's acceptable. Frankly i think this idea is plausible and very very cool.


Thanks Endzone - this is exactly what I was going for!
   
 
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