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So I just wanna see how many people think they should be able to add more models (and an FAQ will hopefully change it) or that they are and only will be 10 man strong forever...

and I dont want arguing/debating here, just voting

Before FAQ they will be 10, because those are the rules. It is difficult to wait for the FAQ?

no, I was just wonder how many people agree that the FAQ WILL change it, I know a few on another forum and local to me who say the FAQ will not change it and they will stay 10 man max....

I am bored of all those rules lawyers and that's the reason I hate competitive gaming. It's ok, we will play a ten man squad till the FAQ will be up and says something different. Then you will stop crying if he unit can get above ten and start crying again for how powerful and under costed it is. Then a new 6th edition codex will come out and it ll be a lot more overpowered than CSM dex. As it was back then in 4rth.
Oh and btw, haters hate. That's the reason they exist for.

 avedominusnox wrote:
I am bored of all those rules lawyers and that's the reason I hate competitive gaming. It's ok, we will play a ten man squad till the FAQ will be up and says something different. Then you will stop crying if he unit can get above ten and start crying again for how powerful and under costed it is. Then a new 6th edition codex will come out and it ll be a lot more overpowered than CSM dex. As it was back then in 4rth.
Oh and btw, haters hate. That's the reason they exist for.

hater's gonna hate, whiner's gonna whine.

after playing with them as 10/35 man squads the 35 is a bit unbalancing. I feel that in both RAW/RAI 10 man it is.

I cannot vote in this poll, as RAW and HIWPI are opposite of one another (mostly because I don't see 10 Zombies hanging together to be representative of what is traditionally referred to as a "horde").

 Darog wrote:
Before FAQ they will be 10, because those are the rules. It is difficult to wait for the FAQ?

It could be difficult depending on how long it will take for them to issue one!

At the moment I would have thought its pretty clear.

The unit is listed as 10 men. There is the option to add more. The Typhus entry says the unit can't take options.

If the unit was listed like say Grey Hunters with a pts per model and a minimum squad size then yes, it would be allowed. But its an OPTION and the unit can't take OPTIONS. Shrug.

I won't be surprised if they FAQ it in either direction. Flooding the board with 4pt fearless fnp scoring models is VERY powerful.

It's important to note that a poll, how you would play it, and RAI are not rules, RAW is rules.

That said, 10 men only. I can't wait for the crying like with the dantes axe FAQ when GW releases the new CSM FAQ.

Seeing how Tyhpus' rule says "may elect", I see it as an optional upgrade. Therefore, a unit with zombies has wasted its options buys, and may not have more options allocated to it. Sometimes you feel like zombies, and sometimes you don't...

juraigamer wrote:It's important to note that a poll, how you would play it, and RAI are not rules, RAW is rules.

Hmm...

BewareOfTom wrote:no, I was just wonder how many people agree that the FAQ WILL change it, I know a few on another forum and local to me who say the FAQ will not change it and they will stay 10 man max....

Looks like he's just trying to use a poll for it's most basic purpose, not to use it as proof.

I believe it will be changed. Not for any reason in particular, though. I definitely see the balance issues of it allowing over 10 though, and fully expect there to be crying from people saying that zombies are too powerful, and this will be the new Lash/Oblit spam where everyone criticizes you for taking anything else in the codex.

I voted 35, However after reading some of the well written concerns here I may sway on the side of 10 man squads also. Thats still 60 fearless fnp scoring units at a wopping cost of 300 points, typhus 230. In my standard games that leaves me with 1970 points for all the other goodies.

you math hammer dudes here what would it take say a death company assault squad of 10 dudes plus lemartes to destroy said unit of 35 zombies.

Also remember tough 3 so alot of str 6 will double tough and remove fnp.

Math it up

I refuse to call them zombies. True zombies kill other models and then make those zombies. These just shamble about and moan. At best they are quasi-zombies.

Aycee

35, as you are not allowed to buy zombies options, but you are allowed to buy cultists options

I also spoke to PK at GD, who was adamant he meant 35 (i had spotted this one in seconds, being an auditor )

While I want to take units of 35 in my army, I think that it will be safer to run units of 10 on open gaming nights.

Not so much because I play RAW, but I don't want to argue with someone over it.

Also, you can take double force organization and take 12 units of 10. I think that would be more annoying to play against than 6-12 units of 35.

nosferatu1001 wrote:
35, as you are not allowed to buy zombies options, but you are allowed to buy cultists options

I also spoke to PK at GD, who was adamant he meant 35 (i had spotted this one in seconds, being an auditor )

shoulda got him to write it out saying "yes your allowed 11-35 zombies, not just 10" have him sign it, picture of him holding it and him recorded on video saying it.... then maybe others would allow it

Yeah otherwise i could sit here and say...


"Actually, me and PK are best buddies and after i was having a pint with him last night, i asked him and he said 'Dude, its 10. Don't be fething stupid....'"

Simple

nosferatu1001 wrote:
35, as you are not allowed to buy zombies options, but you are allowed to buy cultists options

I also spoke to PK at GD, who was adamant he meant 35 (i had spotted this one in seconds, being an auditor )

I don't care if you get Phil Kelly to call me and personally tell me that it should be 35. RAW it is 10. Next time you see him tell him that if that is what he meant then GW should you know actually review and edit their stuff before it goes to the printer.

Aycee

p.s. Before I actually posted this I went back and made several edits because that's how I roll.

Write to GW at: gamefaqs@games-workshop.co.uk

I sent them this just now:

2. Typhus
His entry says that cultists become zombies, but may not take options. However, the ability to field more than 10 zombies in a unit is listed under options. Was that the intent? Was Typhus meant to limit zombie cultists to 10 models per squad or can they be increased to 35 like a normal squad of cultists but are prevented from taking weapon options?

I voted for 35, simply reading Typhus rules states " that you can nomiated a unit of cults" so therfore before you nomiated a unit you just purchase the maz size unit and then turn them into zombie.

 mrblacksunshine_1978 wrote:
I voted for 35, simply reading Typhus rules states " that you can nomiated a unit of cults" so therfore before you nomiated a unit you just purchase the maz size unit and then turn them into zombie.

Yes but also by this logic you can nominate at any point. Including in mid game?

jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:

 mrblacksunshine_1978 wrote:
I voted for 35, simply reading Typhus rules states " that you can nomiated a unit of cults" so therfore before you nomiated a unit you just purchase the maz size unit and then turn them into zombie.

Yes but also by this logic you can nominate at any point. Including in mid game?[/quote


That a great question, I hope that GW, would FAQ that , it doesn't states when you can, the rules are vague on that one. Players could really absue that rule.....

I voted 10, I think that 10-35 is game breaking at low points levels but not really OP when you hit 1500+ but at that points level and above you should take better troops than just cultists anyway.

I voted 10, because otherwise we're not using the "cannot purchase options" limit at all.
Strict RAW I agree that they can first purchase options and be nominated after that.
But strict RAW also means models without eyes cannot draw LOS. And huge amount of other plainly silly stuff.

iTS 35 PER faq

Indeed, so it seems there is an errata stating the may take the more cultist option.


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Wow, that seems almost too good to be true....

Looks like I'm running a zombie horde at my flgs tomorrow lol

A one page FAQ just to solve this problem. Brilliant.

I knew this would be the result based on the white dwarf batrep, some people just want to watch the world burn. 210 zombies is scary just based on being able to tarp it and hold objectives since they will never run.