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Ok so i have a question cant find an answer for that a guy i play with is swearing on but i cannot find where he is referencing.

so here is the set up
Ahriman and his t-suns and sorce get charged,
the sorc has doom bolt,
Ahriman has Breath(that i am gonna use for this moment)
can i use a warp charge to use breath and being a templete weapon get d3 hits with it during the over watch.
i am not sure how beam would work i assume not at all sense its not a standard shooting weapon profile.

he argued that sense psychic shooting says
manifested instead of shooting regular weapon
i wondered if sense it dose not say anywhere that you "cant" over watch a psker shooting that you could.
i am not a rule lawyer anymore and i couldn't find anything on this form or the book.(not that it is not there)
please help
and thank you very much

RAI, I would say no. There might be an argument RAW, but I will let someone else voice it

Q: Can psychic shooting attacks be fired as Snap Shots (assuming
that the Psyker has enough Warp Charge available and requires a
roll to hit)? (p13)
A: Yes, but only in your own Shooting phase. This means that
psychic shooting attacks cannot be made when firing
Overwatch.

I wish this was the case, so I could shoot my zoanthropes in overwatch but unfortunately I don't believe you can use psychic powers in overwatch and even on the slim chance you can you must have the warp charge to use the abilities since you only gain warp charge at the start of your turn.

You gain Warp Charge at the start of each turn, not each of your turns, so having Warp Charge won't be the problem. The unmentioned problem with that situation is that because some of the models in the unit are Slow and Purposeful (namely everyone bar Ahriman) none of them may fire Overwatch at all.

Yep, no PSA's for overwatch. As overwatch is snapfire

Wow that was fast you guys are awesome thank you

You can Snapfire PSAs, so that's not the problem. The problem is that PSAs are limited to your Shooting phase, which it obviously isn't if you're being assaulted.

Chrysis wrote:
You can Snapfire PSAs, so that's not the problem. The problem is that PSAs are limited to your Shooting phase, which it obviously isn't if you're being assaulted.

Hmm left out an important tidbit, thanks. My bad for quick replies. However even that being the case it is clear cut.

Yeah, basically boils down to two problems.

1) You cannot overwatch Witchfire powers, because Witchfire powers must be manifested in your shooting phase and Overwatch happens in your opponents Assault phase.

And even if you could Overwatch Witchfire powers:

2) The unit contains models with the Slow and Purposeful rule. This conveys the Slow and Purposeful rule to the entire unit, and the rule prohibits models with it from firing Overwatch. So no one in the unit may fire Overwatch anyway, no matter what they're trying to fire.

From the FAQ:

Q: Can you use a witchfire power when resolving Overwatch? (p21)
A: No.

Yeah lemmie just use JOTWW in overwatch. PLEASE LET ME DO IT PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.

Yeah, no.

Monasou wrote:
Yeah lemmie just use JOTWW in overwatch. PLEASE LET ME DO IT PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.

Yeah, no.

Doesn't roll to hit, couldn't snapfire it anyway.

Slow and purposeful units cannot overwatch... why are we discussing this?

edit

Fragile wrote:

edit, had said "where'd you get SnP from"

Thousand Sons are SnP


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silly ninja edit

 juraigamer wrote:
Slow and purposeful units cannot overwatch... why are we discussing this?

The title of the thread is "overwatch and psykers". The OP involved 1ksons but that doesn't mean the question is restricted to just them.
Especially since he says "i wondered if sense it dose not say anywhere that you "cant" over watch a psker shooting that you could. "

See how it's broader than just "LOL DEY R SNP"?