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Well lads, Im sorry, but mine beats the last two hands down.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20054737

For those of you that cant see the vid in the US...




fething brilliant!

God wants you to get raped?

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Why are there so many threads about rape on dakka?

It seems all of our culture is collectively obsessed with sexual violence lately. I was with my friend (or rather, "friend") on the weekend, we were making jokes about rape all the time...and then it'd be on tv, rape this and rape that.

There was even a rape reference in Madagascar 3 that made us both piss outselves.

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jcress wrote:Seem super off topic to complain about epistemology on a thread about tactics.
 
   
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Social moderation.

Win all 50 states.

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 Testify wrote:
Why are there so many threads about rape on dakka?

It seems all of our culture is collectively obsessed with sexual violence lately. I was with my friend (or rather, "friend") on the weekend, we were making jokes about rape all the time...and then it'd be on tv, rape this and rape that.

There was even a rape reference in Madagascar 3 that made us both piss ourselves.


To be fair, I just think its because its almost election time in the States, and they have Republicans.


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 Seaward wrote:
Fiscal conservatism.

Social moderation.

Win all 50 states.

What is so goddamn hard about that formula?


Exactly. Why did they let Jesus hijack the party? Most people are socially moderate, most people are fiscally conservative. I'm conservative here, but in America I'd vote democrat because it's those guys or nuts about Jesus conservatives.

You need some nice normal conservatives, maybe you can steal Boris Johnson he was born in America!

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Seaward wrote:Fiscal conservatism.

Social moderation.

Win all 50 states.

What is so goddamn hard about that formula?

Jesus Christ.
who aside from being a social radical, wasn't very fiscally conservative either. No wonder it doesn't fit well into the Republican platform and just makes them look like gakkers.

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How good is that though?

God WANTS you to get raped? :S

If you think that God has planned out everything in your life, isn't that just a recipe for misery? I mean, something happens every single day that sucks right? Even if its trivial.

Missed bus? Gods plan.

Lost wallet? Gods plan.

Gang raped by pirates? Uh-oh..

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 Seaward wrote:
Fiscal conservatism.

Social moderation.

Win all 50 states.

What is so goddamn hard about that formula?


Completely pissed away what could have been a slam-dunk, own the House and Senate and White House because these candidates keep pandering to the far right AND saying stupid gak that the rest of us don't believe or want. Why are you talking about abortion and rape? Pound home jobs and economy. It doesn't matter if you're right or wrong, the current President get's hammered if the unemployment is high and the people will eat it up.

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Obviously you missed what he meant. Not that I blame anyone for missing it. Its rather badly explained.

He means that if someone concieves from rape, God has a plan and purpose of some sort. "all things work together for the good of those that serve him" God will use this horrific thing for good.

Even the Holocaust had a purpose. It paved the way for the refounding of Israel as a political state.


That said, this was a very bad thing to say from a political stand point. They should have just stayed quiet.


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 Grey Templar wrote:
Obviously you missed what he meant.

He means that if someone concieves from rape, God has a plan and purpose of some sort. "all things work together for the good of those that serve him" God will use this horrific thing for good.

Even the Holocaust had a purpose. It paved the way for the refounding of Israel as a political state.


That said, this was a very bad thing to say from a political stand point. They should have just stayed quiet.


This is also coming from the same source that promised the end to wicked people...

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It's clear that he means God creates life and can bring good out of an evil situation.

Man the obsession with bashing republicans, abortion and rape on wargaming fora is scary!
   
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 Phototoxin wrote:
It's clear that he means God creates life and can bring good out of an evil situation.

Man the obsession with bashing republicans, abortion and rape on wargaming fora is scary!


It just shows how people will take any chance they can to take something out of context. And people need to be VERY careful with what they say to avoid this thing.


Like Mitt Rommny being accused of being sexist or something after his reply to the question about equal rights for women. IIRC, he said he had an employee who was married and he offered to let her leave work early so she could get home and cook for her family. Man did people run with that.

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mattyrm wrote: How good is that though?

God WANTS you to get raped? :S

If you think that God has planned out everything in your life, isn't that just a recipe for misery? I mean, something happens every single day that sucks right? Even if its trivial.

Missed bus? Gods plan.

Lost wallet? Gods plan.

Gang raped by pirates? Uh-oh..

Im pretty sure he didn't mean God wants you to be raped, I think he just thinks life is a divine gift. Not exactly a view Christians hold a monopoly on, it's still a dumbgak( Edit whoops) thing to say.

kronk wrote:
Why are you talking about abortion and rape? Pound home jobs and economy.

Republicans fer Jebus, which is most of the party now, allow themselves to be goaded into those issues and beaten up. Even a vicious pro-lifer like Paul Ryan has basically called for the party to drop it.
Remember the good old days when Jimmy Carter was the face of American Jesus freaks? Where did that go?

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 mattyrm wrote:
Well lads, Im sorry, but mine beats the last two hands down.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20054737

For those of you that cant see the vid in the US...




fething brilliant!

God wants you to get raped?


Whats so awesome is how I didn't intentionally vote for any incumbent. Green Party 2012!

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The point abvout Jesus being a radical is not a valid one I'm sorry to say.

Radical either eventually become mainstream or remains radical and dies out.

Christianity became mainstream, and as such is the conservative viewpoint.

Its natural cycle really. Today's radical is tomorrow's conservative.


Thats why older people tend to become conservative. They may have been radical when they were young, but getting older tempers your viewpoint and/or your radical causes are now codified as the new norm.

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 AustonT wrote:
Republicans fer Jebus, which is most of the party now, allow themselves to be goaded into those issues and beaten up. Even a vicious pro-lifer like Paul Ryan has basically called for the party to drop it.
Remember the good old days when Jimmy Carter was the face of American Jesus freaks? Where did that go?

I still believe the majority of Republicans are moderates. It's just that they can either vote for a guy they mostly agree with but who's essentially taking his marching orders on a few key social issues from an imaginary friend, or they can vote for the guy who they largely don't agree with but who's not.
   
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Grey Templar wrote:The point abvout Jesus being a radical is not a valid one I'm sorry to say.

Radical either eventually become mainstream or remains radical and dies out.

Christianity became mainstream, and as such is the conservative viewpoint.

A resounding No.
And don't bother.

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 Grey Templar wrote:

Thats why older people tend to become conservative. They may have been radical when they were young, but getting older tempers your viewpoint and/or your radical causes are now codified as the new norm.


You know, Jesus never really actually had anything bad to say about anyone but the rich people. Strange when you consider Christianity and Republicans.

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Seaward wrote:
 AustonT wrote:
Republicans fer Jebus, which is most of the party now, allow themselves to be goaded into those issues and beaten up. Even a vicious pro-lifer like Paul Ryan has basically called for the party to drop it.
Remember the good old days when Jimmy Carter was the face of American Jesus freaks? Where did that go?

I still believe the majority of Republicans are moderates. It's just that they can either vote for a guy they mostly agree with but who's essentially taking his marching orders on a few key social issues from an imaginary friend, or they can vote for the guy who they largely don't agree with but who's not.

Religion really doesn't have a whole lot to do with the positions Republican evangelicals have taken. Part of the Voter ID/reform attacks by the Rs is aimed at preventing congregational voting; going straight from church to the polls. Which is a Democratic tool. It happens in conservative congregations it's just not as iconic. The difference is that Democrats don't go shovig it in everyone's face and planking it...until forced too.
Think about Barry's first big scandal, it was about his pastor. It's not like Ds are any less religious; they just aren't moronic enough to pretend its the reason behind thier policy.

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Come check out my Blood Angels,Crimson Fists, and coming soon Eldar
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 daedalus wrote:
 Grey Templar wrote:

Thats why older people tend to become conservative. They may have been radical when they were young, but getting older tempers your viewpoint and/or your radical causes are now codified as the new norm.


You know, Jesus never really actually had anything bad to say about anyone but the rich people. Strange when you consider Christianity and Republicans.


He didn't say rich people were bad because they were rich. He said it because their hearts were rotten, and he was referring to very specific people. it wasn't a blanket statement.

A person can be rich and still be a good person.

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To be fair to the member, if you believe that every pregnancy is sacred there is no more excuse for abortion after rape than any other case.


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 Seaward wrote:
 AustonT wrote:
Republicans fer Jebus, which is most of the party now, allow themselves to be goaded into those issues and beaten up. Even a vicious pro-lifer like Paul Ryan has basically called for the party to drop it.
Remember the good old days when Jimmy Carter was the face of American Jesus freaks? Where did that go?

I still believe the majority of Republicans are moderates. It's just that they can either vote for a guy they mostly agree with but who's essentially taking his marching orders on a few key social issues from an imaginary friend, or they can vote for the guy who they largely don't agree with but who's not.


GOod point.

The Democrats have their reverse of course. Thats why the Green Party is the way to go. Once you vote Green no oher color will do.

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I can't tell if you and Kronk are serious.

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You see, to Auston, everyone is a Death Star; there's only one way you can take it and that's through a small gap at the back.

Come check out my Blood Angels,Crimson Fists, and coming soon Eldar
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/391013.page
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 Kilkrazy wrote:
To be fair to the member, if you believe that every pregnancy is sacred there is no more excuse for abortion after rape than any other case.



Indeed,


The only sticky case is the case where the pregnancy threatens the life of the mother. Which is damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. Someone is possably going to die and nothing can really change it.

Fortunatly, with medical advancements this case is really rare in developed countries.

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 Phototoxin wrote:
It's clear that he means God creates life and can bring good out of an evil situation.

Man the obsession with bashing republicans, abortion and rape on wargaming fora is scary!


Children of unwanted pregnancies, from any reason, can feel unloved. The idea that God accepts you into his plans even if noone else did is a comfort.
It's a comment on human value, not on a doctrine of allegedly God endorsing rape.

No apology or shuffling was required over this one. The real problem is that to make a political issue of theological one you need to explain the theology, which often make more sense when looked at more deeply than the quickfire responses of a political debate will allow. If unable to explain the wisdom behind a deep comment, don't say anything. Jesus himself knew that one and even when He had something to say often did not do so if He lacked the platform to explain the context.

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 Grey Templar wrote:
 Phototoxin wrote:
It's clear that he means God creates life and can bring good out of an evil situation.

Man the obsession with bashing republicans, abortion and rape on wargaming fora is scary!


It just shows how people will take any chance they can to take something out of context. And people need to be VERY careful with what they say to avoid this thing.


Like Mitt Rommny being accused of being sexist or something after his reply to the question about equal rights for women. IIRC, he said he had an employee who was married and he offered to let her leave work early so she could get home and cook for her family. Man did people run with that.


I mean, damn, nobody ever takes what Democrats or Liberals say out of context and hammer them for it right? You guys might be on to something.

Oh and by the way, Photo, your statement makes it seem like you are against those that bash rape, does that mean you are pro-rape? You obviously mispoke. There it just happened again!

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Meh, context is important.

He was referring to the recent Republican/Rape threads. Of course he should have clarified.

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 AustonT wrote:
I can't tell if you and Kronk are serious.



HAHAHAHA!!!!

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 Orlanth wrote:
If unable to explain the wisdom behind a deep comment, don't say anything. Jesus himself knew that one and even when He had something to say often did not do so if He lacked the platform to explain the context.


Oh come on Orlanth, it wasn't a "deep" comment, it was a fething stupid comment.

feth me, when you are a politician and you know that every sentence is beamed around the world, you have to be an idiot to make such a statement.

Its only an acceptable comment to you because you are a full on Christian yourself, so you are biased in his favour. You can't possibly tell me that you are being objective when you say he said something deep there. He said something really silly considering the majority of people that are going to see it AREN'T proper happy clapping Christians that study the bible.

Even if I give you the benefit of the doubt and lets say it was a sage and wise thing to say, a mob is only as smart as its stupidest member, and politicians are addressing the mob. You keep gak simple, you don't say things like that, things that anyone who isn't a born again Christian will (perfectly logically) be really fething offended by what you said.

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