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So I am again playing a friend at my local club this week. His Eldar are tough to beat (it's a well oiled tourney list). I've finally shifted from the DA codex to the Vanilla SM book as I think the DA book has really started to show its age and want to take a Storm talon. I've settled on the list below having played around with a list earlier that had more Dreadnoughts to lay down even more fire. But Assault terminators will be more useful.

HQ
Librarian - Terminator armour w/ Storm Bolter

Elites
Assault terminators - 3x TH/SS, 2x LC
Assault terminators - 3x TH/SS, 2x LC

Troops 
Tactical squad - Plasma, ML - Rhino
Tactical squad - Plasma, ML - Rhino
Tactical squad - Plasma, ML
Scouts - Camo cloaks, ML
Scouts - Camo cloaks, ML

Fast Attack
Storm talon gunship - Typhoon ML

Heavy support 
Predator - w/ HB sponsons
Predator - w/ HB sponsons
Predator - w/ HB sponsons


I am happy with the amount of fire I am going to be able to lay down as I'll need to take out walkers, fire dragons and transports before they can do too much damage. I have around 35+ heavy weapon shots if my troops are static. But what do you think? Is this a decent all round list?

Thanks,

NW4NW

Thought so, just needed a second opinion. Do you like the list as it stands?

Thanks,

NW4NW

I didn't take anything over strength 10 as they can reduce its effectiveness to 8 anyway. So I have gone for weapons that could glance to death or simply lay down a lot of fire against troops (as well as a lot of Frag and Krak).

Thanks,

NW4NW

I had considered losing a Predator and an Assault Terminator squad in order to afford a Land Raider Crusader and an Aegis Defence line.

HQ
Librarian - Terminator armour w/ Storm Bolter

Elites
Assault terminators - 3x TH/SS, 2x LC

Troops
Tactical squad - Plasma, ML - Rhino
Tactical squad - Plasma, ML - Rhino
Tactical squad - Flamer, ML
Scouts - Camo cloaks, ML
Scouts - Camo cloaks, ML

Fast Attack
Storm talon gunship - Typhoon ML

Heavy support
Predator - w/ HB sponsons
Predator - w/ HB sponsons
Land Raider Crusader

Fortification
Aegis defence line

I sit the tac squad with the Flamer and no Rhino behind the Aegis defence line, Land Raider takes the terminators too them and I still have a load of fire power.

Failing that take Gate with the Lib and increase the size of the terminator squad to ten so they can move with him. The large amount of Storm shields would make the Terminators pretty robust to fire. And a focus away from other units.

What do you think?

Thanks,

NW4NW

So something a bit more like this? Won't the Sternguard be fairly easy pickings though?


HQ
Librarian - Terminator armour w/ Storm Bolter, Gate and Smite

Elites
Sternguard x6 - 3x combi weapons, 2x PF w/ Drop pod

Troops
Tactical squad - Plasma, ML - Rhino
Tactical squad - Plasma, ML - Rhino
Tactical squad - Flamer, ML
Scouts - Camo cloaks, ML
Scouts - Camo cloaks, ML

Fast Attack
Storm talon gunship - Typhoon ML

Heavy support
Predator - w/ HB sponsons
Predator - w/ HB sponsons
Land Raider

Thanks,

NW4NW

Sorted,

Librarian - Terminator armour w/ Storm Bolter, Gate and Smite

Elites
Sternguard x7 - 4x combi weapons w/ Drop pod

Troops
Tactical squad - Plasma, ML - Rhino
Tactical squad - Plasma, ML - Rhino
Tactical squad - Flamer, ML
Scouts - Camo cloaks, ML
Scouts - Camo cloaks, ML

Fast Attack
Storm talon gunship - Typhoon ML

Heavy support
Predator - w/ HB sponsons
Predator - w/ HB sponsons
Land Raider

Thanks everyone,

NW4NW

I had Terminators originally but they were swapped for the Sternguard. Thinking of bringing them back in as I lack the models for multiple combi-weapons (I only have three). So the current list stands as this.

HQ
Librarian - Terminator armour w/ Storm Bolter, Gate and Smite

Elites
Assault Terminators - 3x TH/SS, 2x LC

Troops
Tactical squad - Plasma, ML - Rhino
Tactical squad - Plasma, ML - Rhino
Tactical squad - Plasma, ML - Rhino
Scouts - Camo cloaks, ML w/ Telion

Fast Attack
Storm talon gunship - TL Lascannon

Heavy support
Predator - w/ Lascannon sponsons
Predator - w/ HB sponsons
Land Raider


Thinking of testing Telion and just one Scout squad. What do you guys think? I have 35 points knocking around, 85 if you think Telion is a no go.

With the Sternguard I have it looks like this.

HQ
Librarian - Terminator armour w/ Storm Bolter, Gate and Smite

Elites
Sternguard - 3x combi weapons, 2x PF in Drop Pod

Troops
Tactical squad - Plasma, ML - Rhino
Tactical squad - Plasma, ML - Rhino
Tactical squad - Plasma, ML - Rhino
Scouts - Camo cloaks, ML w/ Telion

Fast Attack
Storm talon gunship - TL Lascannon
Attack Bike Squadron (3) w/ Multi-melta

Heavy support
Predator - w/ Lascannon sponsons
Predator - w/ HB sponsons
Predator - w/ HB sponsons

Thanks,

NW4NW

How do you feel about locator beacons? Add that to the Drop pod for my Sternguard and the Terminators can zero in and make a real impact alongside them the next round.

More feet on the ground, I lose the Land Raider but that was a big points sink and unlikely to last the first round.

HQ
Librarian - Terminator armour w/ Storm Bolter, Gate and Smite

Elites
Sternguard - 3x combi weapons, 2x PF in Drop Pod w/ locator beacon
Terminators - Assault cannon, 2 Chain fists

Troops
Tactical squad - Plasma, ML - Rhino
Tactical squad - Plasma, ML - Rhino
Tactical squad - Plasma, ML - Rhino
Scouts - Camo cloaks, ML

Fast Attack
Storm talon gunship - TL Lascannon

Heavy support
Predator - w/ HB sponsons
Predator - w/ HB sponsons
Predator - w/ HB sponsons

Cheers,

NW4NW

I was planning to use the scouts with Sniper rifles. Static in cover and hopefully causing problems for a couple of turns.

Good idea on the Termies, imagine he'll have Eldrad though so may deny a lot of my moves, hopefully get lucky. Does gate home in on the locator beacon?

Cheers,

NW4NW

Like it, will have to use 'counts as, for the Thunderfire but will give it a go.

Thanks,

NW4NW

Is there any way to combat Eldrad?