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So, I assault my friend's vehicle, and I get some glancing and some penetrating hits (let's say I'm using infantry, no power weapons) - do my hits suffer the -1 on the vehicle damage table for AP-?

No, because there is no rule stating this anywhere anylonger

@janerowdy AP- is different from no AP. In 5th CC weapons didn't have an AP value so no -1 on the damage table.

copper.talos wrote:
@janerowdy AP- is different from no AP. In 5th CC weapons didn't have an AP value so no -1 on the damage table.

There's also the fact that AP- doesnt matter anymore. There is no more -1 on the table for not having an ap value

(5th edition) in title. I managed ti miss it!

jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:

copper.talos wrote:
@janerowdy AP- is different from no AP. In 5th CC weapons didn't have an AP value so no -1 on the damage table.

There's also the fact that AP- doesnt matter anymore. There is no more -1 on the table for not having an ap value

In 6th true, but this thread was a question on 5th edition (see thread title).

 grendel083 wrote:

jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:

copper.talos wrote:
@janerowdy AP- is different from no AP. In 5th CC weapons didn't have an AP value so no -1 on the damage table.

There's also the fact that AP- doesnt matter anymore. There is no more -1 on the table for not having an ap value

In 6th true, but this thread was a question on 5th edition (see thread title).

Whoa, how dare they!! Just when I've gotten most of that useless garbage outta my head >.<
Nice catch

janerowdy wrote:
So, I assault my friend's vehicle, and I get some glancing and some penetrating hits (let's say I'm using infantry, no power weapons) - do my hits suffer the -1 on the vehicle damage table for AP-?

It wouldn't matter what weapon they were using, if memory serves correctly there were absolutely no CC weapons in 5th that had an AP value. They either ignored armor or they did not.

That being said, not having an AP value and having AP - are two different things. So, in short, no.

Alright, thanks very much everybody - we're just starting out and all of our stuff is 5th

LOL Disregard that I Suckz ork fungus, edited stupid post.

 Grey elder wrote:

 Kevin949 wrote:

janerowdy wrote:
So, I assault my friend's vehicle, and I get some glancing and some penetrating hits (let's say I'm using infantry, no power weapons) - do my hits suffer the -1 on the vehicle damage table for AP-?

It wouldn't matter what weapon they were using, if memory serves correctly there were absolutely no CC weapons in 5th that had an AP value. They either ignored armor or they did not.

That being said, not having an AP value and having AP - are two different things. So, in short, no.

Fist of Dorn buddy, Fist of Dorn.

What about it? From 5th edition?