Competitive Tier4 Harbinger list

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**Grey Templar**

Harbinger -5 pts

4 Crusaders 20 pts

Heirophant 2 pts

Avatar 10 pts

Min choir 2 pts

Max Temple Flameguard with UA 8 pts

Max Temple Flameguard 6 pts

High Paladin Vilmon 3 pts

2 Paladins of the Wall 4 pts

Total = 50 pts

This is kind of a wish list as I lack some of the models. But I think it would be a decent goal to work towards. I lack 3 Crusaders and 4 Flameguard.

Could be quite nasty.

I have 22 Flameguard that can be disposable bodies, that happen to be really tough to kill.

I have 4 Crusaders, which is enough to do piece trades with. Plus I have the Avatar to do heavy hitting.

Vilmon and his buddies can also provide some heavy hitting, while being annoying.

Heirophant is there to heal the Harbinger(and maybe the Paladins if they need it)

**codemonkey**

I wouldn't want to face it.

As a suggestion, though, you have a lot of jacks without all of Menoth's amazing jack support. I'd drop either a crusader or the non-UA TFG unit to make points for a Vassal, the Covenant, a Menofixer, and bumping the Choir up to max. Probably I would drop a Crusader, as 4 heavy jacks is probably good, and having the extra bodies on the table is nice.

**Grey Templar**

Sadly, her Tier list cannot take Vassels(only Mechaniks), Covenant, or Reclaimer(I ssume thats what you meant by Menofixer)

How about this?

Harbinger -5 pts

3 Crusaders 15 pts

Heirophant 2 pts

Avatar 10 pts

Max choir 3 pts

Max Temple Flameguard with UA 8 pts

Max Temple Flameguard 6 pts

High Paladin Vilmon 3 pts

3 Paladins of the Wall 6 pts

2 Vassel Mechaniks 2 pts

Total = 50 pts

**codemonkey**

Aaahhhh, I completely missed this was a tier list.

Menofixer = Vassal Mechanik. It's a bad joke from the PP forums. Menofix, fixer, Menofixer? Tip your waitress, try the salmon, I'll be here till Thursday.

In that case, I'd probably keep 4 crusaders, drop the heirophant, a paladin and a menofixer. The heirophant is good with most casters, but Harby doesn't really need him, and if something is getting through Impervious Wall, it's more likely to one-shot the pally in question than leave him alive to be healed.

What the tier list does well is throw lots of heavy jacks at the enemy while Harby hides behind disposable infantry and/or a wall. You've certainly got the tools to do that.

**Grey Templar**

Well, the Heirophant does help with Martyrdom. lets me keep the paladins alive a little longer.