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 XT-1984 wrote:


Well first you are dishonest (a year and a half is long enough to know the rules). Then you let opponents break the rules (perhaps it was an honest mistake?). Why not just kindly point their mistake or misinterpretation out to them and carry on with the game? All you're doing by letting it slide is advocating this kind of behavior.

Ok, first off I am not familiar with most of the rules or codecs out there. So yeah, I do consider myself new. And time is irrelevant since "knowing" something is more of a comfort feeling. I am not comfortable with most rules and rely on looking them up. Simple as that.

And how exactly am I being dishonest? Do you really think people that try to sneak stuff just suddenly play straight after getting called? This guy was just going along with whatever he could get away with. I'm not the Tabletop police and I'm not going to go around calling someone a cheater. I know what he was doing and I'm deciding not to play him again. I really don't see how that's dishonest in anyway.

Tekik wrote:
Anyone who is clearly winning while complaining about how bad their luck is this game.

oh my god, this. there is a guy at my loca club who will complain non stop about how poor his rolling is even when he's winning, another example (from another guy) was this

I was facing his eldar, he had a wraithlord and some dire avangers sat on an objective. I was playing sisters and celestine had got knocked over turn one and refused to get up (she could have easily removed the wraith lord and unit thus winning me the game. He had a unit of war walkers creep up on my other unit of scouring sisters and got them into combat to which I could not roll a 6 to hit them for the life of me. this along with other examples of poor shooting and each of my dom units getting pinned each time they got blown out of a tank made for a pretty bad game for me but, I kept trying and never allowed myself to get angry or show myself getting annoyed

my opponent on the other hand, who had been having some pretty good luck at my expence, was crowing about how his "off-hand" tacitics worked like a charm and strated to get really pissy that eldrad was having troubble killing of my unit of DCA and jacobus, to the point where he was curisng and throwing a few dice around -.-

Skirmish movement trays - galeforce9

I have two. The first one, a really good friend of mine who I've known for just over 17 years. The problem? I just can't beat the dude! At all. Ever. The closest I came was a Space Marine Attack bike needing to kill 4 Ork Slugga boyz in the shooting phase to win. The result? A hatful of 1's and no wounds....

As for the second, it was my last game at a GW store. That wasn't my plan you understand, it just worked out that way. Why? Simple, TFG, that's why. This was a 3rd ed game (that's how long ago it was!) and I was fielding a pretty vanilla SM list at 1500pts. TFG was fielding 2000pts of Orks. Not that I knew that until the end of the game, I guess I'm just to trusting. He was a rule monger of the worst kind, constantly re-measuring MY movement after I'd finished, just to make sure that I hadn't moved an extra 1/2 millimetre (god forbid), and then shuffling HIS minis a few extra inches after they had moved, trying to do it so I wouldn't notice. He would constantly yell 'Cocked Die!' if one of his rolls came up in an unfavourable number, he would constantly pick up my minis to 'admire' them then put them back 2-3 inches from where they were. Usually to his advantage, he smelt bad. Nothing obvious, just this kind of underlying funk. He wouldn't let me pop out for a smoke (that's just a personal thing), and he used the word 'Gay' to describe everything. As in 'SM are sooooo gay', 'Thats one gay piece of luck' 'Thats gay gay gay guy!' and my personal favourite, 'You killed them? Your gay!'
Ugggghhhh. If that's the regular oppo that my local GW can manage, then maybe that's why I've never been back....

Two examples of opponents that annoy me to no end.

1. Fluff players that act shocked/upset when I beat them with my Tournament list. You brought a handicapped list. You were going to lose. Realize that and deal with it.

2. Kid watched me play a 500 point game with a LRBT, leaves, comes back 5 mins later with a fully tailored list and tables me. Weak.

-Captain

I dont really have a story of an annoying opponent because im fairly sure I do the annoying for a lot of people. I have a terrible memory and it took me ages to learn 5th. Now in 6th and I'm remembering the wrong set of rules quite often. Then I have to go through the new rule book to make sure Im understanding it right. Can drag out games a bit :(

Its why I only play friendlies and not tournaments

 TheCaptain wrote:
Two examples of opponents that annoy me to no end.

Kid watched me play a 500 point game with a LRBT, leaves, comes back 5 mins later with a fully tailored list and tables me. Weak.

-Captain

These kinds of players always wrastle my jimmies.

Players that act shocked/upset when I beat them with a list that I tailored against the list that they seem to bring every week, like air-cav spam or a LRBT in 500 points. You brought a stale list. You were going to lose. Realize that and deal with it.

 TheCaptain wrote:
Two examples of opponents that annoy me to no end.

1. Fluff players that act shocked/upset when I beat them with my Tournament list. You brought a handicapped list. You were going to lose. Realize that and deal with it.

2. Kid watched me play a 500 point game with a LRBT, leaves, comes back 5 mins later with a fully tailored list and tables me. Weak.

-Captain

At least against most kinds of list tailors you get to actually put your models on the table and maybe roll some dice!

My first game against 'Durp Knights' with my Daemons... The donkeycave brought 20 Strikes + 20 Interceptors and won the roll to go first.
I never got to place a single Daemon on the table thanks to that. AND the jerky git then 'juggled' my auto-mishapping units between quake bubbles so that all but 1 unit in my first wave was auto-killed.



I don't mind losing to a competitive list when I know full well I haven't brought an optimised list myself. I mean, I know full well that a squad of 18 Pink Horrors aren't optimal, but damnit it's fun and I love the look on an opponent's face when their prized unit is staring down 54 shots!!! Sure I could spam the updated Flamers/Screamers and let my army pilot itself to victory, but I'd find it really boring after the second game.
So yes, I like handi-capping myself and trying to play a TAC's list vs even the nastiest spam.

But for feth's sake, at least have the balls to let me deploy and try to make a fight of it instead of using a game-breaking gimick, a crap RAW loophole and then sitting back and gloating about how I suck and should try playing a 'real' army!
People who like that need to just go burn in a car fire and stop polluting the hobby with their WAAC's-to-overcome-small-testicles syndrome...

I would say the most annoying player I know is myself.

I sprained my ankles when I was young and have had pretty bad foot problems since then, I've had to quit quite a few games because my legs were about to go out (my local GW only has chairs at the paint station, and the one table near the station is nearly always taken) and I always feel bad because i'm sucking the fun out of other peoples 40k night.

Also I'm relatively new (started playing a few months after 6th came out) so I tend to mess up rules pretty frequently. thankfully most players at the GW are willing to help clarify the rules when I make a mistake. I'm getting corrective surgery at the end of the year so hopefully the first bit won't be a problem much longer.

other than that, there is one player I don't much like at the aforementioned GW store. In my local escalation league I've played him 2 out of of the 4 games I've been in, and a few times before that. he plays GK and I DW and it's usually pretty close but I have won but once, his stormraven with paladin squad and librarian had failed to come in the first few turns and I ended up wiping him off the table (DW terminators ate the dreadknight and my massed fire killed his two 5 man strike squads)

he proceeded to ask every single other person in the room several if the "you lose if you don't have anything on the table at the beginning of the turn" rule was true, and said it was a stupid rule when everyone told him it was legit. he has done things like this multiple times, saying that rules are stupid and trying to dice off if he doesn't like it, while forgetting to point it out when I forget rules that benefit him (like "forgetting" I had fortune on my seer council) and giving evasive answers to any rules question on his part, and complaining that anyone that beats him is cheesy (noted instances are a tau player, me with my dark angels and a tyranid player)

That's enough about that, and don't get me wrong, I have nothing agains GK, one of the best members at my FLGS is a GK player who was one of my first matchups, he's very courteous and apologizes for any rules mistakes he makes. Not to mention he's a great guy who's lots of fun to play.
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Sorry for the wall of text and any mistakes, I'm somewhat tired right now.

Zachariel don't feel bad about actual physical problems when you play. Because if an opponent has a problem with that they are seriously intolerant. I know at my FLGS one guy was in a bad accident and broke pretty much half his body and has to do the same thing. And since he's one of the more fun guys to play with no one ever has a problem with it.

And yah that initial GK player sounds like the bees butthole....

My most annoying opponent is a good friend of mine who plays battle suit steamroller tau, and is always set on winning with the goal of leaving the other one crying. thats fine and all... nope not with me, 40k is about fun, not you trying to molest everyone with space commies in block of metal.

Anyway, he is exceedingly competitive and it takes away from the gaming experience. he is fair on rules but when we (brother and i) go through the game he is changing rules and upgrading his army because we cant tell the difference. he rolls to see if he gets wargear ("evens if i get ___) and i have recently been expanding my army, to his dismay my army is getting better and better, while he pouts about losing after we get done. i sure hope he matures really fast because i just about rip my intestines through my ears when this guy gos ham on taking advantage of things.

WHEW got that out of my system. apologies.

g0atsticks wrote:

You may ask ourself why we kep this guy around.........has the finest greenery in the state.

Sounds like he needs to take some of his own medicine if he's always so uptight

One of my ex-friends is this. He'd nitpick on every rule. *Oh I think I get a cover save from that blast because he's behind a tree*.

so I show him the blast rules, and he pouts and get prissy. I FRFSRF his main force of black templars, and manage to shoot down his entire squad including the emperors champion. He told me I was rolling too many dice. So, I counted the dice I rolled. Exact.

Then his turn, he charges in his homemade chapter master, I ask him if he wants to do that. He's like *fine*. He squashes a few guardsmen. I kill his chapter master and win combat, moving up to the objective.

 Zachariel wrote:
I would say the most annoying player I know is myself.

I sprained my ankles when I was young and have had pretty bad foot problems since then, I've had to quit quite a few games because my legs were about to go out (my local GW only has chairs at the paint station, and the one table near the station is nearly always taken) and I always feel bad because i'm sucking the fun out of other peoples 40k night.

Also I'm relatively new (started playing a few months after 6th came out) so I tend to mess up rules pretty frequently. thankfully most players at the GW are willing to help clarify the rules when I make a mistake. I'm getting corrective surgery at the end of the year so hopefully the first bit won't be a problem much longer.

other than that, there is one player I don't much like at the aforementioned GW store. In my local escalation league I've played him 2 out of of the 4 games I've been in, and a few times before that. he plays GK and I DW and it's usually pretty close but I have won but once, his stormraven with paladin squad and librarian had failed to come in the first few turns and I ended up wiping him off the table (DW terminators ate the dreadknight and my massed fire killed his two 5 man strike squads)

he proceeded to ask every single other person in the room several if the "you lose if you don't have anything on the table at the beginning of the turn" rule was true, and said it was a stupid rule when everyone told him it was legit. he has done things like this multiple times, saying that rules are stupid and trying to dice off if he doesn't like it, while forgetting to point it out when I forget rules that benefit him (like "forgetting" I had fortune on my seer council) and giving evasive answers to any rules question on his part, and complaining that anyone that beats him is cheesy (noted instances are a tau player, me with my dark angels and a tyranid player)

That's enough about that, and don't get me wrong, I have nothing agains GK, one of the best members at my FLGS is a GK player who was one of my first matchups, he's very courteous and apologizes for any rules mistakes he makes. Not to mention he's a great guy who's lots of fun to play.
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Sorry for the wall of text and any mistakes, I'm somewhat tired right now.

I'd like to say that anyone who is annoyed by your ankle should check themselves before they wreck themselves and shouldn't infect 40k with there presence at all. I suffer from a tarrets like condition that causes me to bark like a dog, flail my arms around sometimes, and cause a minor embarrasing scene. All I can do is laugh and move on. But anyone who says something negative about conditions like ours probally don't have half the strength we do to survive in conditions like ours. And don't worry about rule remembering. Your having fun and that's all that counts

So...I'm gonna talk about the white elephant in the room. Me. I am my own worst opponent. My first time playing, about two months ago, I called my opponent on just about every single ruling as it came, that I didn't understand fully. Why, to make sure I understood every single thing i could about his army, my army, the terrain pieces, you name it. Man had the patience of a saint. Since then, I still hate Chaos Space Marines with an intense passion that borders on the holy, but I don't have to ask much anymore. Other than that, never had a bad opponent. Always make sure to shake their hand. Honestly, most of the guys around my shop just enjoy the game, and we consider every game a fun game, unless we do a tournement. Though, we did have one guy show up out of the blue from out of town. He looked around at the prices, made a few small comments to bait us out, then got into a "friendly" game with one of our regulars. He ran a necron flier list, and rather than going after objectives, he systematically wiped out each enemy unit, only leaving one small foot unit on an objective to ensure he won. He just kept smiling the whole game and cheering himself on at every kill, and when it was over, he packed up his army and walked out of the store. We never saw him again, which I might say is a good thing.

Anyways...back on topic

another opponent I faced just tonight brought a fluffy list of green tide. Now, he had beaten a player earlier, so I considered it poetic justice that I beat him in return. So, after looking at his list and realizing it was an all-foot army, I brought every blast weapon I could, every flamer I owned, and three Valkyries. Tabled him turn three.

He beat someone, so I beat him. Felt great, just like justice.

Only problem is he called me a list tailor. I told him that he deserved it, but he disagreed, saying the circumstances were totally different. Obviously I was right.

He was super annoying. Most annoying opponent to date.

I have deleted a fair few infalmmatory posts and personal attacks ITT. Please remember that our Rule Number One is Be Polite and following the rules is a condition to posting. I recommend taking a break from the thread if you feel personally angry about something posted here. A short walk, a snack, watching some TV, or whatever will put into perspective how breaking our rules is just not worth your time. Thanks.

... So... List tailoring is good to you now?

 Savageconvoy wrote:
... So... List tailoring is good to you now?

If you have a question for me, I urge it be redirected toward my inbox, unless it is directly related to the thread at hand.

In this instance, it isn't, so I urge you to shoot me a PM if you wish to be answered.

This thread has been derailed enough.

Most annoying opponent I've faced... hmm
Well, there is this one two guys, one always plays space wolves, I'm glad he doesn't play longfang spam, and the other plays tau

Yeah, the one time I really remeber, he played his usual list, logan, 2x wolf guard, all in land raiders with a vindi and pred for backup, though he laso included some grey hunters.

I was playing necrons (Overlord with MMS, 2+ armour, Phase Shifter, Warscythe and Phylactery in a barge, 5 immortals with blasters, 15 warriors, monolith, 8 scarabs, lord with warscythe, phase shifter and MSS)
He had like 2500pts, I had 1000pts. He said it was totally fair...
Obviously it wasn't, so I got my friend to play with me, he was using my Chaos Space Marines.
so now it was 2500 vs 2500, he said it was unfair, because 2 heads are better than one... got his friend (the guy who played tau) to help him with a 1000 point army...

We allowed forge world stuff, though only the tau guy was using any.

Anyway, the tau guy used a Apoc only vehicle, and I only found out when I demanded to see the rules, D6 str 10 AP 1 large blasts? yeah right...
He was totally lying, didn't even have a single str 10 ap 1 weapon, let alone D6 large blast ones.

And the space wolf player... tells me all his models allow him to remove a special rule from all my units when he chooses, tells me he removed RP. I call cheating, demand to see the rules, tells me he doesn't have his codex and that he's telling the truth. I tell him that the SW codex is under his seat and proptly grab it and start to read it, finally he says he was lying...


In the end, me and my friend lose, because of Apoc units in a 40k game, being 1000 pts down, etc...


Don't know why I even bothered to play against him, should have just versed my friend...

Why would you play someone who was trying to say 2:1 point values are fair? I can't believe anyone would try that kind of crap.

D6 S10 Ap1 large blasts? In a 1000 points? I'd love to meet these guys.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Most annoying opponent I've faced... hmm
Well, there is this one two guys, one always plays space wolves, I'm glad he doesn't play longfang spam, and the other plays tau

Yeah, the one time I really remeber, he played his usual list, logan, 2x wolf guard, all in land raiders with a vindi and pred for backup, though he laso included some grey hunters.

I was playing necrons (Overlord with MMS, 2+ armour, Phase Shifter, Warscythe and Phylactery in a barge, 5 immortals with blasters, 15 warriors, monolith, 8 scarabs, lord with warscythe, phase shifter and MSS)
He had like 2500pts, I had 1000pts. He said it was totally fair...
Obviously it wasn't, so I got my friend to play with me, he was using my Chaos Space Marines.
so now it was 2500 vs 2500, he said it was unfair, because 2 heads are better than one... got his friend (the guy who played tau) to help him with a 1000 point army...

We allowed forge world stuff, though only the tau guy was using any.

Anyway, the tau guy used a Apoc only vehicle, and I only found out when I demanded to see the rules, D6 str 10 AP 1 large blasts? yeah right...
He was totally lying, didn't even have a single str 10 ap 1 weapon, let alone D6 large blast ones.

And the space wolf player... tells me all his models allow him to remove a special rule from all my units when he chooses, tells me he removed RP. I call cheating, demand to see the rules, tells me he doesn't have his codex and that he's telling the truth. I tell him that the SW codex is under his seat and proptly grab it and start to read it, finally he says he was lying...


In the end, me and my friend lose, because of Apoc units in a 40k game, being 1000 pts down, etc...


Don't know why I even bothered to play against him, should have just versed my friend...

This is the story that was forming itself in my head as I read that

You - You there, wolf heathen! I long for combat!
Wolf heathen - I accept your challenge, but only on my terms! 250% points for me!
You - Ha! You've activated my trap card! Allied army! Come forth to assist!
Friend - Sup
Wolf Heathen - An equal point match?! This is not acceptable! Tau friend! Form up on me!

And then some guy throws a manta at the table and promptly breaks it in half sending figures and terrain everywhere.

 Necroshea wrote:
And then some guy throws a manta at the table and promptly breaks it in half sending figures and terrain everywhere.

Witnessing this, I would need to make a Perils of the Warp check.

Don't know why I bothered playing him...

And his excuse for 2500 vs 1000 being fair is that I was playing necrons, and necron are always cheap and OP no matter what list you run... I will agree, necrons can be op, but still...


Oh, and not to mention through-out the entire game he and his friend had the cheek to call me TFG for playing necrons...

 Manchu wrote:

 Necroshea wrote:
And then some guy throws a manta at the table and promptly breaks it in half sending figures and terrain everywhere.

Witnessing this, I would need to make a Perils of the Warp check.

Oh god, that was a gut buster.

Like after it all comes crashing down and theres that moment of silence, some guy would stick his head out of the nearby bathroom ala toasty from mortal kombat and scream "perils!"

 Necroshea wrote:

This is the story that was forming itself in my head as I read that

You - You there, wolf heathen! I long for combat!
Wolf heathen - I accept your challenge, but only on my terms! 250% points for me!
You - Ha! You've activated my trap card! Allied army! Come forth to assist!
Friend - Sup
Wolf Heathen - An equal point match?! This is not acceptable! Tau friend! Form up on me!

And then some guy throws a manta at the table and promptly breaks it in half sending figures and terrain everywhere.

Damn it, if only I had enough room in my sig

You know what I do to annoy myself as a player? Buy a new unit and play it unpainted for 6 months! Lol does anyone get annoyed at unpainted armies?

 coolbrobunny wrote:
You know what I do to annoy myself as a player? Buy a new unit and play it unpainted for 6 months! Lol does anyone get annoyed at unpainted armies?

By the light we absolutely do not need this topic in this thread.

I do, but only at myself, most of mine only have a few models painted...
At least almost all are undercoated (except my necrons and daemons, just haven't gotten around to it...)

I don't get enough opponents to complain...