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Can a dreadknight switch out it's powers for things on the telekenesis table?
*WARNING may be a stupid question*

If it is Mastery level 1.

Psychic Powers
A Grey Knights Librarian may use the psychic disciplines found in the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook, instead of those in Codex: Grey Knights. If he does so, generate a number of psychic powers equal to his Mastery Level from the Divination, Pyromancy or Telekinesis disciplines (in any combination) before armies are deployed. If he does so he may not purchase additional powers. Hammerhand cannot be exchanged in this manner.
An Inquisitor with Mastery Level 1 can exchange his psychic power for a single roll on either the Divination, Pyromancy or Telekinesis disciplines. Coteaz can generate two powers from either the Divination, Pyromancy or Telekinesis disciplines (in any combination) in place of those listed on his profile.

Is a Dreadknight a Librarian or Inquisitor?

No he can't.

Check out the GK FAQ:

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m2570043a_Grey_Knights_v1.1.pdf

darn

i think that was an example. Judging by army builder that lets pretty much anybody with a mastery level take powers. As long as they have mastery level i think they can, just not brotherhood. at least that what i am getting, the librarian and inquisitors were just examples.

Inksoul wrote:
i think that was an example. Judging by army builder that lets pretty much anybody with a mastery level take powers. As long as they have mastery level i think they can, just not brotherhood. at least that what i am getting, the librarian and inquisitors were just examples.

The army builder is not the codex or FAQ/Errata. The Errata says that a Librarian, Inquisitor, or Coteaz may take rulebook powers. It does not give Dreadknights the ability to do so, any more than it gives Paladins or Warrior Acolytes the ability to do so.

You only get to use rulebook powers if the Errata or codex tells you so.

Dreadknights can't. In fact, unless you happen to be fighting against Daemons and making use of Dark Excommunication then his powers are pretty useless to him. Hammerhand doesn't benefit him in any way since you're always attacking at S10 in CC anyway.

Yeah, it would have been awesome of anything with a mastery level could swap out with divination, but I suspect it'd elevate the power level of the army too much.

As written, Librarians and (Psychic) Inquisitors only.

On a related note, most of the powers they start with by default are pretty situationally useful at best. Apart from hammerhand, and the occasional use of Warpquake and Cleansing Flame, I cannot recall a time since the advent of 6th edition where I've rolled for any of the others.

It doesn't say only anywhere in the FAQ. i think that is a guideline for how to use them. seeing as it randomly mentions crow, but not the other named inquisitors. and paladins couldn't because they are psychic brotherhood, not mastery level 1. only tech priests and dred knights would gain anything from this.
There is also an FAQ for the rule book that also makes it seem like you can swap them out.

Q: Can psychic powers be mixed and matched from the psychic
disciplines and those found in the Codexes? (p418)
A: No. You may select from the psychic powers listed in the
Codex as normal or swap them for a number of rolls on the
psychic disciplines tables.

It's still a good thing for it to be a psyker though. Deny the witch on a 5+ is nothing to scorn

Enceladus wrote:
Dreadknights can't. In fact, unless you happen to be fighting against Daemons and making use of Dark Excommunication then his powers are pretty useless to him. Hammerhand doesn't benefit him in any way since you're always attacking at S10 in CC anyway.

Dark Excommunications isn't any good now either, Deamons don't have "Demonic Gifts" anymore, they have Demonic Rewards now. GW hasn't FAQ it yet.

Insoul - in order to do something in 40k, you need permission

Find PERMISSION to use the BRB powers on a dreadknight. Page and paragraph

The ONLY thing that gives GKs the ability to use rulebook powers is the FAQ

Boredflak1066 wrote:


Dark Excommunications isn't any good now either, Deamons don't have "Demonic Gifts" anymore, they have Demonic Rewards now. GW hasn't FAQ it yet.

Actually, the only things they have are Daemonic Gifts. The Table of Contents in the new Codex puts all these as Gifts: Ranged Weapons, Melee Weapons, Daemonic Attributes, Daemonic Steeds, Icons and Instruments, Hellforged Artefacts, Daemonic Rewards, Daemonic Loci, Daemon Psychic Powers. Steeds are FAQ'ed to not be affected (since changing unit type mid-game would be weird), but if you cast Dark Excom on a Daemon, it loses everything except its Alignment, its Warlord Trait, and its Stat Line.

There are quite a few entries in the list-building section of the codex that have "Daemonic Gifts" listed. Hellblades, Plagueswords, and Loci are a few that are listed, and that support the reading that "Everything is a Gift." How would you come to the conclusion that "Nothing is a Gift"?


And @insoul: Nosferatu is right. You need permission to use the BRB powers. Permission is given to Libbys, Inquisitors, and Coteaz. It is not given for DKnights, GMs, BCs, Crowe, Draigo, Mordrak, Stern, Brotherhood Champs, Techmarines, or Thawn.

Edit: typo

Wasnt the daemonic steeds FAQ for the previous codex?

MarkyMark wrote:
Wasnt the daemonic steeds FAQ for the previous codex?

Who cares? There's an entry in the current GK FAQ which explicitly states that Dark Excom does not affect Steeds.

 Elric Greywolf wrote:

MarkyMark wrote:
Wasnt the daemonic steeds FAQ for the previous codex?

Who cares? There's an entry in the current GK FAQ which explicitly states that Dark Excom does not affect Steeds.

Especially since it is still in there after the latest FAQ, which came out after the new CD codex.

 Elric Greywolf wrote:

Boredflak1066 wrote:


Dark Excommunications isn't any good now either, Deamons don't have "Demonic Gifts" anymore, they have Demonic Rewards now. GW hasn't FAQ it yet.

Actually, the only things they have are Daemonic Gifts. The Table of Contents in the new Codex puts all these as Gifts: Ranged Weapons, Melee Weapons, Daemonic Attributes, Daemonic Steeds, Icons and Instruments, Hellforged Artefacts, Daemonic Rewards, Daemonic Loci, Daemon Psychic Powers. Steeds are FAQ'ed to not be affected (since changing unit type mid-game would be weird), but if you cast Dark Excom on a Daemon, it loses everything except its Alignment, its Warlord Trait, and its Stat Line.

There are quite a few entries in the list-building section of the codex that have "Daemonic Gifts" listed. Hellblades, Plagueswords, and Loci are a few that are listed, and that support the reading that "Everything is a Gift." How would you come to the conclusion that "Nothing is a Gift"?


And @insoul: Nosferatu is right. You need permission to use the BRB powers. Permission is given to Libbys, Inquisitors, and Coteaz. It is not given for DKnights, GMs, BCs, Crowe, Draigo, Mordrak, Stern, Brotherhood Champs, Techmarines, or Thawn.

Edit: typo

ARGGG!!!!! I was hood winked by my friend this past weekend. During our battle he said all his deamons had were Demonic Rewards and not Gifts, so we thought the DK couldn't stop any powers. I should have looked at his rule book, the cheating .

Boredflak1066 wrote:


ARGGG!!!!! I was hood winked by my friend this past weekend. During our battle he said all his deamons had were Demonic Rewards and not Gifts, so we thought the DK couldn't stop any powers. I should have looked at his rule book, the cheating .

On the one hand, he was probably just confused or is a poor reader of his rulebook. I have made mistakes when playing games, especially with new(ish) codices/rulebooks. On the other hand, he IS a Daemon player, who notoriously cheat. (Also, ignore my signature.)

Inksoul wrote:
It doesn't say only anywhere in the FAQ.

It doesn't need to say 'only'...

The FAQ outlines who can select rulebook powers. If a model is not listed as being able to take rulebook powers, then there is nothing that would allow them to do so.